canuckleface77 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 It seems like ever since the Canucks lost to Boston in the SCF they have been a different team. Even last year when they were Presidents trophy winners, they rarely impressed and kind of just coasted through the season into the playoffs. We all know how that turned out... I truly think that the stanley cup final messed with their heads. I'm talking about Bieksa, Burrows, the Sedins, Kesler, Edler, Hamhuis and most of all AV. We all hoped that after they lost in the final that they would bounce back even better then before, but that idea is quickly fading. If anything, the drive for hockey vanished that fateful day, and they realized that there are better and more important things than hockey, like wives, kids, vacation houses, private yachts, etc. And then of course we have Jesus boy David Booth sitting in the corner preaching that hockey is just a small part of his life and that the fans don't understand, and oh yeah how much he loves God and Jesus. That brings me to AV. You can totally see that AV has lost the room. He made all of his core players way too comfortable with their jobs and status on the team. The entire core got complacent and since getting huge contracts and wives and kids they have lost their emotions that made them such an exciting team in the years leading up to 2012. AV needs to go so a new coach can come in and actually threaten some jobs that AV wouldn't have the guts to do. Im talking about you Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Deb, have to disagree with you here. Last year they coasted to the presidents trophy, most would say they have no idea how they won it the way they played most of the year. That was the argument last year, we'll be ready, we'll turn it on, etc.. They have become complacent, that team that was focused on everyone getting better, coming out with fire and passion every game as they did in 2011 is gone. The character in the room is a problem and a big one. When the compete level is missing something is wrong. Unlucky bounces, bad breaks, injuries etc all play a role but if the compete level is there and not results one could see your point. However, this team's compete level is not there, cohesiveness is not there, playing a system correctly is not there. Something is wrong, game 7 gave us a glimpse, last year gave strong evidence, this year is proving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 The need was to get bigger forwards....no offense but Schroeder isn't it...resigning Raymond and keeping Booth, who both have speed but not the size needed ...the pluggers are all servicable on the 3rd and 4th lines...our first line is intact..we are constantly being challenged physically..just as with the BlueJackets goal with Foligno and Umberger skating into our offensive zone free as a a bird without fear of any sizable backcheck...I think Gillis lost his objectivety as a manager...btw Kass is still too 'young' to help our top lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCCP Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 All we need is firing AV . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 All we need is firing AV . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck in the Truck Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Guys religion has nothing to do with it .Sedins getting older not a factor everygame .Defence is average at best ,goalies well we all know the problem there .Coach is stale,he is the one telling these guys how to play the system and stay with the process guess what doesnt work.The guy who coaches the p.p is well that speaks for itself .Was a time where you go out to score goals to win ,not suffer through this style of crap hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler0007 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 my 2 cents are as follows,sometimes the obvious is the solution,the players are not playing for there coach anymore,history always repeats itself. I always liked AV but the layers of respect have peeled away most notably the game were he put edler in the shootout,this after another brutal defensive game. why would he use him... because he doesnt use the players properly case and point the power play why reward edler and push garrison to the back of the bus. The players have quit ,and its time to get new energy that they can believe in,sorry AV time to go. this is a business no feelings alowed i believe i heard from managment before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kassians_fist Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I do believe that some of it is mental and complacency but I think it started before Boston, with Chicago. Part of doing a job means that, when you give 110% and come up short, with people devaluing what you have done and the effort that you've given, it's deflating. I am dealing with that on the jobsite and if there's no reward or acknowledgement at the end of a job well done, you lose motivation. Any team that's been on top but has failed to win the SC likely would experience this...then you have to face going through the motions of trying to get back there...only to come so close? I do feel that psychologically, you lose some of that drive. But it boils down to love of the game...if you lose that, you're doomed. Each time the guys step out on the ice, it shouldn't be about the Cup, it should be about that game and being totally stoked to go hammer it out. To keep a one day/game at a time attitude and just enjoy the moment rather than looking too far down the road. Lu's a bit of a testament to that - when he gets too caught up in the "thinking/figuring out" part, it can divert some of the focus and become a distraction. Just do it, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 The Vancouver Canucks never ever won the STANLEY CUP with Alain .V in the bench ,NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the team now playing like bunch of individual , not like a team ,poor PP poor PK POOR 5 ON 5. Poor overtime ,and poor shout out. And the member of this team not poor at all , is millionairess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Canucks my team FOR EVER , just so painful watching now .The team have no heart and no soul !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I hope we keep losing so some changes come, this is not a stanley cup team even if they somehow do "wake up" in the playoffs like some of you are suggesting. That will only get them past the first round maybe... I just hope they win the game on the 18th since I'm going to it haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socretes Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Sometimes when you lose it seems like EVERYTHING you did was wrong but in reality we lost the series vs LA last season because we didnt have daniel and we took too many penalties in games 1 and 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_devil Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 The only mental problem is with the coaching staff ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnhl Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I hope Booth sees this and scores a hattrick next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsy Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'm not suggesting that they'll flip a switch. I'm suggesting that, in previous years, they've crashed and banged their way to the top in regular season. They've put it all out there prior to getting there (to the playoffs). The comeback kids, who battled till the end in some games in order to win. Then the playoffs, and they go in depleted, already exhausted, beat up, etc. This year there's some sense that they're coasting. That they're not firing on all cylinders (I tend to agree). So maybe by the time they do wake up, it'll be just in time? Not that they say "ok, let's go now" but that it just sort of happens that way. They've always been slow starters, so maybe by the playoffs they'll be clicking again. That's my suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupisAll Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 The only mental problem is with the coaching staff ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Guess what, moron? For most people their wife and kids would come before their job. And you knock a guy for his religious beliefs? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 The Vancouver Canucks never ever won the STANLEY CUP with Alain .V in the bench ,NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the team now playing like bunch of individual , not like a team ,poor PP poor PK POOR 5 ON 5. Poor overtime ,and poor shout out. And the member of this team not poor at all , is millionairess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Canucks my team FOR EVER , just so painful watching now .The team have no heart and no soul !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksfan3322 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I think the worst right now, as you mentioned, is Edler. He is playing absolutely terribly. The only d-man playing really well right now is Hamhuis, although Tanev isn't playing that badly. On the forward side, the Sedins, Burrows, Hansen, and Higgins are the only ones playing well. I feel that the Sedins have stepped up their physicality after the series against Boston. This was especially shown by Henrik in the first game against the Blackhawks this season. Raymond has been alright, but he falls every time I see him. Other players, like Lapierre, need to step up their game. When Bieksa or Ballard comes back AV should bench Edler for that game. It would send a message to the rest of the team that they need to play well or get benched. I don't think there is any other way this team will get motivated to play better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Totally Avs fault. Not enough motivation and players need a wake up call once av is fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 no, it's troughout the entire organization. the bruins did some serious psychological damage in the 2011 SCF that this group will never recover from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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