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Would you want him, were you a GM? What would you offer? Not seen a value crash as suddenly as EP's has, since 2008. All self-inflicted, and agent driven. First rule of attaining value, is to prove worth. Re: Green's bench instruction to EP to 'watch your fugging mouth'. Playing himself into a negative value to any team. And into an insolvabe puzzle for JIm. Sad to see.

lack of application. self-entitlement.

Yet, that's where we find ourselves. Clutching at anyone that might be our saviour.

30 pages now, and still no-one saw them at the game. Neither perhaps did Garland, given his quote.

21 pages in, and so far only 1 brief mention of our captain in this comeback. And not 1 note regarding Pearson. Did they even play? I'd say without Miller we're rather short on bus driving leadership.

A decent team punch-up before the next period would sort out the triers from the liars.

Bandwagon definition. noun: used in reference to an activity, cause, etc. that is currently fashionable or popular and attracting increasing support. Its the 'cause' / 'increasingly attracting support' parts wot makes keeping track of all us bandwagon passengers a might tricky. Green's driving the wagon in one direction, jumping on is a snip. A few might jump off at a stop or two, but then it turns right around and comes pick us up again. Not our fault, we simply wanna get somewhere.

Shouldn't turn toxic if the boys finally step onto the ice playing with some of the fiery passion allowed on these boards recently. Kudos for admins for not over-reacting to the venting. Some excellent hockey schooling amongst all the angst. New day = new hope in Canuckland.. Expecting to see a corner we might turn.

Barely lasted through a full game back end of last year, don't remember Harmonic. But, buying into the whole bums-in-seats marketing, I'm excited to see this D solution for myself. Be uncorking early tomorrow night.

Yes, we should dress eveready Sutter already, get Podz to Abby and away from the storm a'brewin'.

His game will improve by getting away from the mounting pressure on coaches, and perhaps their need for a scapegoat. I have enjoyed watching Rathbone a lot, despite his mistakes. Captain material, someday.

Seems like the more practise and time with the coaches they get at home, the worse they look.

Travis Green's winning percentage as NHL coach Regular Season Playoffs Season Age Tm Lg GP W L T OL PTS PTS% Finish G W L T W-L% Notes Career NHL 298 128 137 33 289 .485 17 10 7 .588 2017-18 47 VAN NHL 82 31 40 11 73 .445 7th 0 0 0 2018-19 48 VAN NHL 82 35 36 11 81 .494 5th 0 0 0 2019-20 49 VAN NHL 69 36 27 6 78 .565 4th 17 10 7 .588 2020-21 50 VAN NHL 56 23 29 4 50 .446 7th 0 0 0 2021-22 51 VAN NHL 9 3 5 1 7 .389 5th 0 0 0 Not sure why there's any debate about if we should "wait for this" or "wait for that". They should both resign, be thankful for their opportunity. Do it for us fans.

Bennings earliest mantra was to bring up our prospects in a "winning environmnet". Anyone remember this? Just look at his winning percentage in the above post. Should be in a manual describing 'failure'.

Snag here is that just when you've watched Klimovich be ready for a try up in the bigs, management'll waive or trade him to accommodate has-beens or never-wozzers. Gadj/Mac/OJ/Lind/Gauds/Rafferty/Dahlen .... the amount of young talent lost to our innate coaching naivety/stubborness has become stuff of legend. At least tracking Guds, Marky and Tanev's resurgance under Flame's coaching is an entertaining watch, though a tad sad. Calgary. Of all places.

Fire everyone Trade Miller Promote Sedins

Well, Canucks can limp along in hope, with the odd good performance, losing fans until we are mathematically missing the play-offs or Aqualini can see the inevitable result above and make some hard-headed decisions now to stop it happening. Serious injury lurks for our weakened money-star EP, if he's forced to continue playing at his present level of distraction. Continuing this risk alone, is just one head-scratcher among many. He's not effective anyway, and simply dropping any trade value to rock-bottom. If Aquilini doesn't see that team morale hasn't already left the building for the coming year, ya hafta wonder how he made his fortune at all. Waiting won't fixxit - only a personnel change will stop the bleeding, and for obvious reasons it can't be the players leaving. But, it needs to happen and wholesale. Aqualini's been an excellent owner. Jim's been a nice-guy GM, but to be brutally honest, his drafting's been no more successful than if he'd settled for the BPA with each pick. Trading has been suspect while player development has been very poor. Travis' integrity can't be faulted, but now 5 years in, his coaching abilities remain ineffective. No shame in trying, yet there's little glory gained by persisting with a known, failed business model.

OOPs!

agreed. but right out of the gate our forecheck needs to be buzzing.

That'll be Nov 24th @ Pittsburg. Just hope It don't feel like a month of Sundays.

I'm sure we saw proof of the above during the bubble, when there was less time for coaches input. Our most organically creative player EP, is now unrecognizable from his impact when just a kid. He dropped to us fully-formed, or as his Swedish coaches quipped 'Elias came here to teach us hockey'. What I wonder, did Travis ever think he could teach EP? A good back-checker? PK'er? F/O specialist? At 22, EP's no longer a kid, and 3 years from now we will have paid him $22million dollars. Presently he often looks like he'd rather be playing for free, having fun somewhere else.

Some merit to this Spook. Though I'm not sure our last season's shameful finish as the worst team in the land should cause us feel happy. We seem doomed to support our team through a permanent disappointment. Great summer signings gave us an optimistic roster - on paper. We balance that by deciding to waive guys whose progress we've been following for years. Early results then show our main rivals haven't exactly been sitting on their arses. Oilers are a more complete dynamic force, and have you watched the Flames? Even Guddy appears to have responded to good coaching and is playing solid defence. Of course, its our option to switch allegiances, but who the hell are Benning, Green or his coaches to force us do that? They for certain, will all bolt to some other team at some point. We fans will still be here, bitching away. Until the hired help of the day can demonstrate a similar passion as ours.

much more concerning is that right now, it looks like his enthusiasm has evaporated.

Losing tonight might just spin us skeptics into a forever orbit of black hole hockey commentry. No earthlings can predict how 'this group' will play on any given night, least of all our coaches. Still, such mystery makes compulsive viewing, with things suddenly turning south only adding a macabre intrigue. Has Green permanently white-boarded out EP's natural creativity and enthusiasm? Its looking so. But, at this point I'd settle for one single $2 gold rush over a folorn prayer that the Lotto line might ever pay out again. I have this guilty, treacherous wish for Mac to come light us up. Small payback I know, but management's perfidiously pompous waiving of our favourite prospects, won't be forgiven. If we needed plugs, Canadian Tire had them on sale, at the time.