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Was that not 8 or 9 years ago?

Sure but they have to jettison contracts, I could see an Eriksson plus a bunch to make room, pretty much what he needs to do.

Makes sense, at one time didn't Benning say something about getting back a 1rst but it would be expensive? And as good as the team was doing Brock was not contributing too much, family issues or his back and wrist surgeries, a lot of serious damage in so short a period of time, it might not be a bad idea if the team can get into the first round of this year's draft hopefully a top 20 pick. Would it not be crazy if they traded Boeser to NJ and got Van's 1rst back.

No cap space

I agree Madden isn't a big deal rally, any picks are though. I hope this trade has some part of next year in it, the additions of Miller and Toffoli strengthen the team but I hope Benning finds some way to continue the rebuild, the team needs more top draft picks. Look at NJ, they started their rebuild two years ago and next year will have 5? first round picks on it with 10 or 12 prospects under 20. They will be set for 12 years. TO haters will hate anything TO but they have a lot of players that will be or could be with them for 10 years, the Canucks have 4?

This is nothing like what the Blackhawks did, they re-tooled a Stanley Cup winner, I am afraid to tell you this ain't that team. The Jet's model is so good they could lose 4 top 4 defensemen and still be in a playoff spot with more young players than the Canucks. The Jets have millions in cap space to play with, the Canucks have 20 grand or so and that is with 6 or 7 guys on LTIR. A loop hole in the CBA.

That's great, but I don't have to care about that goal. If we aren't able to re-sign the players we need to or Toffoli walks this is a disaster. First round exit or not. This team goes nowhere with this defense. If they were going to do something it should have been packaging Stecher for an upgrade on D The playoff should not be "THE GOAL" they don't give out trophies for making the playoffs. The issue here is what this team will look like in two years now that it has no high picks next year or, if he is not finished, the year after. Pettersson and Hughes will be getting huge money on a team of 30+ year olds with no young support players. All the prospects from the last 7 years have not made a difference at least not picks after the first round with the exception of Gaudette. Living day to day is okay for a regular person but teams need to or should plan ahead. Next year Tofoli is a good chance he goes back home with his kids and plays with Madden. Markstrom or Demko are gone. Edler and Tanev, well they are older at the least.

Ya , years in between, the next group is 3 years down the line

What 4 young players over 7 years is a rebuild? His magic? Ya, just like a magician distract you with illusion.

How and with what? By putting all those players on LTIR, I don't think they can be traded. Just looked at next season's cap, 18 mil of cap space that's with a 5% increase from the players Players with expiring contracts; Tanev Markstrom Stecher Tofoli Virtanen Leivo Gaudette MacEwen Those are just the more notable guys and they will cost a lot more than 18 mil even with a discount And then there is Demko, Pettersson and Hughes If Ferland was healthy when they signed him, IMO a mistake due to his major concussion history, If they had drafted Tkchuk instead of Juloevi, then they didn't need to sign Ferland If, if , if. it seems a lot of moves now are due to poor ones made before. This is the team, it doesn't look bad at all except it is old, as old as the last good team that was here just before it's decline, the team that Benning said needed to get younger. If they make the playoffs they will be playing a team that has been given incentive to load up and those teams are younger and deeper with experience together. Sure hope nothing happens to Markstrom now.

Miracles really, the team has not enough cap space to re-sign all the expiring contracts, I am not sure that Boeser can even come back before the end of the season.

Well now that Benning has ended the rebuild I guess there are lots of draft picks the team can trade.

pretty much. Guys walk as UFAs every year, its not the end off the world. You get the cap space as a consolation prize. Its not really that different from spending to get a rental guy and losing them for nothing too In Vancouver it is just about every year players walk.

Benning blinked first.

Well I guess it is all in. The team doesn't look all that bad but what happened to the rebuild? Did it get postponed? As far as the rebuild Benning never really has done much to rebuild the team with youth, all the top ten picks are just a result of losing not a plan. He never really has traded for picks, traded down for better picks or even traded expiring FA contracts for picks. Maybe he never was rebuilding, maybe Linden was right all along, they are not rebuilding. But it does bring up what about the future? It seems it is just don't think about it and shlt happens. So far he has run the team like a Fantasy GM, all the players never get hurt, are all healthy and are all in their prime still. Whatever, this is what there is now, IMO he is gone very soon. This team is not that bad, it will need re-tooloing in 2 or 3 years as these guys age out, slow down or retire. The best possible lines now? Maybe; Tofoli - Pettersson - Miller or Tofoli - Pettersson - Pearson Tofoli - Horvat - Pearson or Virtanen - Horvat - Miller The bottom six, pick names out of a hat. Gaudette - Sutter - Mac Roussel - Beagle - Eriksson

Certainly not the quality of the player but this puts the team over the cap. I thought this is supposed to be a rebuilding team, now it looks like years of being in the middle of the road. Don't get me wrong the bottom of the team looks like it could be effective but it is literally relying on two players, Markstrom and Miller, even if Edler or Tanev get hurt this team is in trouble. They have chance for the playoffs but they could still miss as the pressure ramps up on the players to make it. Future traded away on a team rebuilding? Head scratcher

Seems like this whole "He's not coming back!" mantra about Tryamkin started on Vancouver sports radio. Even on Halford and Brough which I'm surprised at because I think they are usually not so close minded. They even issued a Tryamkin ban on their show because they think its ridiculous to even discuss it. I'm not sure when it all started, but that fake news is leaking onto CDC as well. Maybe its a case of the longer he is gone, the more people assume he's comfortable there. When its obviously because of his contract. Who knows? He may very well not want to return to NA, (or his wife doesn't), especially if he gets offered a decent new contract there. Or he may want to start fresh at training camp instead. I just hope he at least does this. We most likely won't be rioting this year in ecstasy anyways, even with him in the playoffs. But then again, I can also see him wanting to return and show what he's got this season in order to showcase himself. Which even if he doesn't re-sign with the Canucks, that's good for him and the Canucks if they want to trade his rights. I don't understand the defeatist attitude about him by some. We knew it would be three long years when he left and we'd need patience. I'm holding out hope until that time is done Negotiations have probably already started or are close to finishing. This is not anything anyone could get in trouble for, the only negative thing that could happen is if his current team found out is they could hold him until April 30 expiration. Just possible dates if his team releases when their season is over, March 1 at the earliest, the team doesn't make the playoffs and then every two weeks after, if his team releases him other wise the Canucks would have to probably be in round two of the playoffs April 30. Yes you have to wonder about those posters that have such a negative and forceful view on Tryamkin, you have to ask why? It isn't like he violated a contract or anything.

Most believe that without Markstrom this team will not make the playoffs. If that is true then the team needs to upgrade the skaters. It could be possible that if the team sells some players at the TDL they could do so, add more youth or other trade pieces for teh end of the season. Tanev and Stecher maybe could get a 2nd or 3rd, both could be replaced from within, Rafferty, Fantenberg and maybe Tryamkin. Ferland is out but Guadette has taken his spot IMO. Schaller is on the last year he might get a late pick. Pearson would get more but seems to be forming a connection with Horvat. The big issue is Markstrom, this is a goalie controversy in the waiting. So far the "Insiders" are saying the two sides are not close, this is not a good thing because if he hits FA the team will not be able to match offers due to a lack of cap space. The only way the team can get cap space is to trade away more of the future, as situation that never should been allowed to happen. There is a solution if Demko is content to stay a backup for the next 5+ years or the team is willing to handcuff itself with a very big salary for a back up, the solution could have been to give both NMC's and expose a top forward or defense man a very unsatisfactory solution. If Seattle did take Demko it will create an instant rivalry,"they stole our goalie" and this team will have that ground into the wound every game he plays here. Boeser might even be a extremely valuable trade chip to a lot of teams, he would get at least a 1rst round pick plus more.

You have little faith that the team is good then. Demko is not good enough to replace Markstrom, even if Markstrom is hurt. All the more reason then to add more youth to the rebuild and maybe get up to 10 players all 26 and under al with 3 years of each other. You post like the rebuild is done and it is all out for a cup run. Fine You get your wish, they sign Markstrom for 6.5 mil, the current rate for goalies around his numbers, he gets his NMC, the team exposes Demko. He re-signs Taneve to Edler numbers and clauses so 6 mil with a NMC. The teams has to payout Luongo- 3 mil- Spooner - 1 mil, bonuses - 4.9 mil totaling 9 mil off the cap next year. Then they have to resign the rest - add another 7 mil or so. Of course there is Pettersson next season but hey lets just wing it when that happens. So because you have no confidence in the young players you have added an additional 12 mil or so in salary. Don't forget this team is OVER the cap right now, it is only LTIR that is keeping them under. So to make room next year, every team in the league knows they have to shed salary so most will do a usual and demand a very high pick in return with the bad salary. The lack of confidence is now costing into the future, maybe the next 2 or 3 years because many of the players on this team under contract are over 30 and declining. All because yo actually beleive they are cup contenders with this old group of players, take a look, this team is as old as when the Sedins were here and a rebuild was needed.

So much mis-information in this thread, Cap friendly has the contracts, NMC is NMC and have to be protected. Edler's contract is not up before the expansion draft, the season might be but his contract is in force until after the draft. Tryamkin is does not have to be exposed, not enough games played, Canucks have to expose a goalie, Demko and ? if Markstrom is protected they cannot protect him even if he is hurt. Demko will be the superior goalie exposed, the future.and show he has confidence in his rebuild be allowing Demko to take the reigns Even if Ferland is injured his roster spot has to be protected, it is he cannot be exposed if he is injured, the contract must be. Games must be NHL not AHL - played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.

The team is re-building. If he signs Markstrom, then what he said before about Demko when talking about young players and the future is either a lie or it shows he is just not following a plan because if he signs Markstrom then Demko is gone, either through the Seattle draft or because Demko wants to be a starter to make more money and he is ready now. Showing strong leadership by sticking to the concept of getting something for expiring assets instead of nothing to help finish off the rebuild. The youngsters, all four of them, Jake, Quinton, Elias and Brock, are not enough in numbers to be finished yet. While they look to be capable of leading the team in Vancouver we have seen one line teams for a long time, with a constant refrain of "a second scoring line" or secondary scoring. And at this time those young players are not driving the game as it gets closer to the playoffs. Do you think this team could beat Dallas, St Louis or Colorado, Calgary for that matter in a seven game series? With hitting? If you do you don't even have to go to Vegas to place your $100 bet they win the cup, the odds are Already there is complaints about uncalled penalties on Pettersson and it gets worse in the playoffs. This is a good signal to the youngsters in that the GM has confidence in them to take over and is willing to spend to get them more to help, confidence in Demko and getting something, maybe significant for players leaving, creating capspace for the enxt year so the team can pay and not have to get rid of players just to make room, like that would not add pressure to perform, "the team got rid of ? and ? to pay me" You see this idea as a negative, when it is so positive it is silly it isn't posted even more, the team is close, but still needs a little bit more, it needs young players playing on the team not in the minors. Every year some prospects are named as making the team next year, in some cases the same prospects as 3 years ago, but they are not here, another top under 24 player(s) will be needed. Benning gets cap control and space, more picks or prospects under 24, doesn't have to shop a player around like he has had to do with Baesrtschi (no takers), shows to the public he has followed a plan, you can't think he knew that Hughes and Pettersson would be this good, remember they wanted to send Pettersson down to Utica at the start of last year, similar with Boeser and Horvat, they didn't think they would be that good, every really good player has made the team at first opportunity

You think Dreger just tosses out any bit of info during the playoffs? With all those named it must be a conspiracy. It doesn't matter IF he played it matters that he could have and to tell the truth this took all of 40 seconds to find this ONE player, didn't Minnesota also have a past Russian do this? In the past players who got of college were able to sign at any time. And I think Tryamkin is on the Canucks reserve list still. The Date is on the twitter account April 12, 2019

Might be March 1. not Jan 1 This may help; It has already happened under this CBA SKA was eliminated in the KHL conference finals by CSKA Moscow on Tuesday, and TSN reported Friday that Gusev received a contract release from SKA. It was set to expire at the end of April. Gusev was a seventh-round pick (No. 202) in the 2012 NHL Draft by the Tampa Bay Lightning but has not played in the NHL. Vegas acquired Gusev in a trade with Tampa Bay during the 2017 NHL Expansion Draft in correspondence with the Golden Knights then choosing defenseman Jason Garrison. Gusev is the reigning MVP of the Kontinental Hockey League. The 26-year-old left wing has played with SKA St. Petersburg since 2015-16 and this season led the KHL with 82 points (17 goals, 65 assists). "I don't know much about him," Vegas coach Gerard Gallant said Thursday. "[Golden Knights general manager] George [McPhee] mentioned it today. ... If he joins us, we'll see what's going to happen. Hopefully he does join us and gets some practice time in with us, but I have no idea where that's going." Vegas trailed the San Jose Sharks in the best-of-7 Western Conference First Round with Game 2 on Friday at San Jose (10:30 p.m. ET; NBCSN, SN360, TVAS2, NBCSCA, ATTSN-RM). Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger JP Barry of CAA Sports has confirmed that they have received Nikita Gusev’s contract release from the Deputy Chairman and Vice President of SKA HC Roman Rotenberg. Gusev is now eligible to sign a 1 yr deal with Vegas Golden Knights for the 18-19 playoffs. 1:36 PM · Apr 12, 2019·Twitter for iPhone 134 Retweets 471 Likes This was during the playoffs so yes Tryamkin can play. Why might the KHL team end the contract a few weeks early, perception of being player friendly and if the player comes back they may want him to play there again.

I don't know about that, wasn't there a TDL where he said afterwards nobody phoned him? I got the impression he didn't make any calls that year. Ferland is probably done. But why trade away when Gaudette is playing good? He is a replacement player, he was assigned to Utica it was only a injury that got him to the big club. Wasn't the farm supposed to be where the team got new players too? Markstom's value will never be higher than the next two weeks unfortunately Demko's gets higher the closer expansion gets. Isn't this Benning's make it or break it year? So I do expect some big move, maybe trading away another pick to make cap space and more to get a rental. I hope not Simmonds, his game has tanked, all those years have caught up to him. I hope Benning does not trade away any player under 27. This team is unproven and the way most of the media experts talk, it will not take much to make the playoffs, that is not a ringing endorsement for success. What is the face a revamped Edmonton? With McD injured they have lots of LTIR money and can trade for Krieder or Hall and Petry or Martinez, that would shift the balance of power in the last week when McD returns. Stick with what is here, only the d can be upgraded and at that IMO they have to tighten up, the number of shots they give up will show up in the playoffs as losses, Chicago, a team not in the playoff picture schooled them. Actually if this team was out of it now then trade Markstrom that takes care of the goalie problem and eases up the cap crunch, package Stecher up with Eriksson with retention and trade them as a package, consider a trade with Minnesota of Boeser and a 3rd for their 1rst and Greenway, that frees up more cap space and is a probable lottery pick, if top 10 then there is a 97% chance the kid can play next year in a sheltered role if necessary. Trade Tanev even if it is for some magic beans, lots of teams want a defensive dman and he has been injury free this season. Call up Rafferty, more millions saved. Take advantage of TDL madness!!! A Markstrom trade just reaffirms Benning saying Demko is the future, signing Markstrom means the opposite and costs the team millions more on the cap. Tanev moving leaves enough money to sign Tryamkin and play Rafferty and still save more millions. Team comes away after the TDL with millions in cap space that can be used at the expansion draft, no goalie controversy, Demko and DiPetro or some other back up, Eriksson gone or at least some of his cap hit, Stecher gets a home, the big thing here is the cap savings, Boeser goes home to be close to family, the team saves more millions and gets a 6'6" forward telephone guy that likes to "reach out and touch someone" (old commercial). There will only be maybe 10 teams competing with the Canucks as sellers instead of at the end of the season when there are 31 less supply make higher prices or what the market will bear, we know all about that in the gas pricing, as much as can be until sales drop off