grouse747

that original article snippet doesn't really say that Aquillini was lived at the time we took Juolevi over Tkachuk. it says that he was livid we made that pick...... well, I think everyone is livid we made that pick...... but I'm thinking he made the comment after the fact. I'll expand on the 2nd comment, we probably don't get one of EP and QH if we took Tkachuk. ....... that's the beauty of being a lousy team and taking risks/making mistakes. if they don't work out, you get high draft picks as compensation.

honestly, I think the Canucks should not be trying to stockpile picks. I think there would be too much time lag before those players are good contributors.. eventually I think EP, QH and TD get tired of all the losing. and I actually don't think the Canucks are that far away from being a solid playoff team.

ESPN top 100 (plus 15 honorable mentions) had six Canucks listed...... plus I believe the one missing player was JT Miller...... so that's 7 players (although you might drop CG to make it 6 players again). that seems like alot for a poor team............ but I agree with those talent evaluations.

yup, Benning did too much and it wasn't good...... but even if what he had added was fairly good, I don't think it would have fit the team's situation that well. Aquillini's though are probably accountable for this too.

my partial bad.... toffoli is 2 years plus rest of this season. but still that's 75% more term than miller. anyway, it's an issue for all trades of many good veteran players.

that he will be an RFA in the summer of 2023..... contrast that with Toffoli under contract to Calgary much longer basically Canucks or a trade team only "own his rights" for that short period of time. any marquee franchise will cap room can sign him next summer and give up nothing.... not sure marquee franchise/winning team/salary cap room are that compatible. the one nice thing is if you trade him to a lesser franchise with up-and-coming players and lots of salary cap room, he might sign there in summer 2023 whereas maybe he wouldn't if he'd never lived there. reminds me of NBA trades where this is even more of a factor.

one big difference between Toffoli and Miller....... Toffoli is a few years further away from RFA... he is under contract much longer than JTM.... both players are very cap-friendly numbers right now

did the 1970s Canucks have any success? i.e. playoffs.... I am old enough to know but didn't live in vancouver at the time.

very very interesting on the tallon/guevremont play/trades...... talon is considered a semi-bust, but now I'm thinking it wasn't fair........ weren't tallon and guevremont technically on Team Canada for the 1972 Canada/Russia series? speaks volumes I think. Cam Neely was never going to play well for Vancouver (although I have seen the argument he was misused).... he was far far better right off the bat in Boston.. suggests maybe hometown pressure got to him.... along similar lines, it seems obvious to me that Jake Virtanen would have done better with another team. how much better I am not sure valve and derlago for williams and butler was appalling (even at the time)......... although TW was very good for marketing and helped get team to Stanley cup finals...... butler even shut down Gretzky one game.... but overall, horrific trade. Rick Martin from Buffalo to LA was the trade that led to restrictions on trading draft picks. you have to remember that with all these trades mentioned, the whole contract situation was different....... I can't remember "real free agency" back then, but I'm not sure... but TODAY, we only hold hornet's and miller's right for the end of this season and next season....... the one thing that partially counteracts that is that horvatt/miller may like some smaller city/young team they are traded to and resign with them. whereas they would never sign with that team outta vancouver.

Isn't the problem with a JT Miller trade that you only control his rights for 1 season and a couple of months? Then he can sign where he wants with no compensation... Or am I wrong? Serious question (I don't know NHL team structures that well)

Robbie Ray = traded nothing for him start of 2020 season. Bo Bichette = 2nd round draft pick... Bo dissuaded 4 teams (before BJ's) from selecting him. so he wanted to go to Toronto

blue jays are great story... in terms of player moves, what tangible could you learn from it? I'd have to look into background of acquiring their 9-10 best players... seiman (sp?) acquisition was great........ I assume VG was part of international player pool where there is US$5MM total to sign teenage players. surprised Bos/NYY/LAD/etc. didn't scoop him up, BUT they could not out-bid other teams. wonder if VG Sr's Montreal experience helped the Blue Jays in signing VG Jr. robbie ray and bichette are the other obvious massive contributors

as the one person mentioned, most of the people charged with felonies for vaccine fraud are ones supplying thousands of people with fake info. of course, maybe a prosecutor goes "Martha Stewart" on Evander Kane i.e. set an example of a high profile person for a crime hundreds of thousands of others do with felony charges).. and California is a very bad state for that. EK would be better to play in florida/texas/etc.

at some point here, would EK be in danger of a lifetime ban? players in other leagues have had lifetime bans with much more limited "body of work" than EK... but I'm assuming most of those lifetime bans were either drugs (performance or serious street drugs) or gambling.... also, careers have been ruined over allegations of one person. cubs shortstop about 5 years ago. Addison Russell.

that article suggests that SJ requires Kane to be charged with a felony to void the contract.......... earlier articles suggested that SJ voided the contract would be in BOTH SJ's and Kane's interest..... San Jose motivation is obvious.. but in EK's case, if he no longer has contract then creditors can't take $2M a year (hypothetical number) from that contract (don't forget that EK would pay taxes on that contract). if (impossible scenario) EK could then sign a very lucrative contract, apparently they couldn't seize money from that provided the whole thing was structured certain ways (timing of new deal would probably be key....... and I wonder if judge has power to frustrate a scheme like that). anyway..... who is going to sign EK if his existing contract is null/void? I'm thinking zero % chance he gets a deal in the NHL....... Russia maybe, but I'm thinking that's an accident waiting to happen. racist Russian fans (not all of them. very significant %) and African-Canadian player who happens to be a complete tool