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  1. 3 hours ago, Sharpshooter said:

    Yeah, I do. 
     

    He has a young family that integrated themselves into the Vancouver area. 
     

    It’s not a ‘high’ pick. 
     

    Horvat also is the highest goal scorer. Not to mention the team’s Captain, not to mention he’s been ‘here’ from the start. 
     

    How can this organization do him so ‘dirty’?

     

    It’s such a shit way of showing loyalty. 
     

    What messages does it send to the rest of the team left behind? 

    This Organization has made lots of mistakes this owner, 2 Prez/Gms, and coaches, Smyl, Linden, there is lots of blame to go around.

    But Bo has over-valued his services, and for the  most part his play through a lot of his time here.

    He signed his last contract one month before the regular season started 

    He never became the game controlling Selke candidate we expected

    He is/was great on faceoffs

    Gone are the days when he was considered JToews #2

    He brought a balanced outlook, but rarely the fire that this team desperately needs

    Orland Kurtenbach was here from the start, I'm not sure what start date you are using to say Bo Horvat was here from.

    Bo was/is a good guy, a good family man, but he rarely if ever had the answer to the problems that the Canucks have faced

    The team showed too much loyalty to the Sedins, and that is where this downward spiral began

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  2. 10 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said:

    Canucks don't need a 6-7 D... we have 5-6-7 D's coming out our ears.

     

    OEL can play as a 5-6-7, Myers can play as a 5-6-7, Bear can play as a 5-6-7.  If Schenn is still here, he can play 5-6-7.

     

    Canucks need #2, #3, #4 D's to complement Hughes at #1.... preferably with size and mobility.

    thank you

    I didn;t know

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  3. 2 minutes ago, R3aL said:

    I dont think anyone is trading a top 5 pick.

     

    IF we pick 1-8 we are drafting that pick and we have 13-18 we are taking that pick Im pretty confident. We need more prospects.

     

    Hopefully will be a C and a D Man

    what, 

    you don't think we trade that 13-18 for a 6-7 defenseman with potential to play top 2 in Van?

  4. 1 minute ago, iinatcc said:

    That is true in the perfect world neither Boeser nor Mikheyev would be signed and neither the OEL / Garland trade. 

     

    Having said that I wanted to move on from Horvat. Love Horvat but it killed me how he was stuck in this bottom feeding organization for his entire NHL career. I'd rather he move on and find the success he deserves 

    I too wanted him traded

    I have been preparing for it for years

    nothing he has done through the last 2 negotiations said to me that he was a lifer here

     

    I think he will flourish when not burdened with the C

     

    in Boston

  5. 2 minutes ago, iinatcc said:

    When the factors are deadlocked sometimes it's the only way. 

     

    Adding to this my main point is there was no straight forward decision here Horvat is a 30 goal scorer and Miller has been 70 or over point per second player since joining Vancouver and neither are actually Defensive studs 

     

     

    that may well be true

    but I never saw it as an either/or question until after Miller was signed unnecessarilyhow would the Canucks look right now if they got the same return for Miller?

    other than being way overstocked at F.. haha

    cuz D? who needs em?

  6. 8 minutes ago, DarthMelvin said:

    Do you think FA will care where this team is located if and when he puts it up for sale? Especially when its a city who whines at him...

     

    It depends on the money. There will be no clause stating the team stay in Vancouver. He could sell the team to Nebraska if the Money was and granted there are regulations and stipulations on moving a team. 3/4 rule etc.

     

    8 minutes ago, DarthMelvin said:

    Do you think FA will care where this team is located if and when he puts it up for sale? Especially when its a city who whines at him...

     

    It depends on the money. There will be no clause stating the team stay in Vancouver. He could sell the team to Nebraska if the Money was and granted there are regulations and stipulations on moving a team. 3/4 rule etc.

    https://hardbacon.ca/en/richest/the-richest-people-in-british-columbia-their-net-worth-and-how-they-made-their-money/

     

    maybe its Jimmy P's turn

    I'm sure we need another Jim in management

  7. 6 minutes ago, iinatcc said:

    99 pts in a season will do that 

    I don't blame management picking Miller over Horvat last season the Miller and Horvat camps were split pretty even. 

     

    So it's not like it's managements fault for basically flipping a coin to decide. 

     

    Edit I am not arguing against you just making a point on this topic in general :lol:

    HOw long will you support a management that uses the coin toss for important decisions? 

  8. 15 minutes ago, drdeath said:

    I never had in my consideration us trading Bo to a team that wouldn’t even make the playoffs. Yet somehow that’s entirely possible.
     

    We knew Bo’s camp didn’t like our latest offer and he wanted to test the market. And he’s earned that right. But if he ended up in say Boston I could see him resigning and being a core piece there for years without ever getting to free agency. Now we secured some assets and have swung the pendulum more likely in the direction of Bo becoming a UFA     and ending up in Boston, anyway.      Unless the islanders tear it up over the rest of the season which certainly could still happen. 

     

  9. 3 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said:

    Isn't it better if they finish like some said something like 13th?

    they are pretty much in `13th right now

    1 point up on 13th with Nashville having 4 games in hand

    basically the Isle are protected from any fall

     

    interesting that they couldn't pry a defenseman away from one of the deepest Ds in the league

    rookie GM doing rookie GM things I guess

    Maybe a defenseman will fall from the sky

    right onto our top pairing

  10. On 1/26/2023 at 10:39 AM, Warhippy said:

    The United States GDP increased by 2.9% in the fourth quarter. But they also saw a record number of layoffs and a record increase in the price of food and basic utilities. Something is just not right

    I think there will always be a struggle between the "Money" and the "Not Money"

    currently  would say that the "Money" is winning

    the backlash will be the re-rise of the union

    how are the things you are describing different from the struggles of Ginger Goodwin, et al?

    after the WW2 came the rise of unions and the middle class.

    Unions did not start then, they started in the dirty 30s

    As a casual observer of history, I wonder if the 30s are a regular occurrence?

    it seems from where I sit, that the 2030s might look a lot like the 1930s 

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  11. 12 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

    So, this becomes a what is commensurate conversation.

     

    If my employee DEMANDS I be in the office and I have no choice but to drive some distance.  Let's say Penticton to Kelowna daily.  With gas prices; wear and tear on my vehicle and the knowledge that I will be spending 2 additional hours driving to a job that I did capably from my own home; should I not be compensated for the time, cost of gas and wear on my vehicle?

     

    I'll go one further.  My wife works for Telus corporate doing billing/accounting.  She now has to use our home internet, power and heating etc to do her job at zero discount for using telus internet/phone to do so.  Should she not be entitled to some level of tax break for this as well?

     

    I would suggest that yes.  employees SHOULD be compensated for some amount of utilities they use to work from home.  But, employees that have demonstrated they can do their jobs at and from home or from a mobile platform, who are being forced to return to the office should absolutely be compensated for that time and wear on their vehicle.

     

    For reference I used my sister, My sister works for interior health in the Okanagan.  She has done her job from home since Covid happened but has been forced to return to work in kelowna.  She drives a Kia soul and it costs her almost $120 a week in gas and an average of 2 hours of driving a day to get to and from Penticton to Kelowna.  She is not entitled to compensation or any expenses or even a raise in pay for this.  There is a great number of people wanting to take employers to court for this and I would argue they are justified.

     

    employees want to track your time and work habits but will refuse to give you even the smallest amount of help to do your job and that's wrong.

    all good points

    re: your wife, there comes a point where she becomes an "independent contractor". An independent contractor uses their own tools for the job, that is the difference from being an employee. It she is using her own apparatus she is crossing that line. I am sure this will and should come up in court/gov't regulations. There are tax breaks as well as regulations for these situation.

    Now your sister is a different situation, my  Lovely GF works in the BC Min Health, there is mounting pressure for people to return to the office because there is not proof that the job is better performed by remote staff. There is a belief that more can be accomplished with "In Person" staff. There is value in looking in a co-workers eye, and having a conversation in person. The measure of that has not been defined as of yet. As fans of a team sport, we recognize the value of "The Room", but in the business world that has not ever been an issue until COVID came about. I believe living in a different city than the one one works in is a choice, a choice with consequences.

     

    last line: I think you mean "employers..." and if you do, then I completely agree, and as I said above, there will need to be court/gov't involved regulation. Some of this is corporate, (your wife) and some is gov't itself, as seen by your sister and my GF.

     

    I believe there is the need for some give-and-take. Taken to the nth degree, is it fair to expect to be paid from the moment you rise in the morning, until you slip off your shoes upon your return home?

  12. 8 minutes ago, Sell.the.team said:

    There is no question Aquaman is the problem here.  I dislike JR and PA but I don't envy them having to answer to this buffoon.

    I've said this before, but I was talking about players

    Vancouver is a retirement destination in the NHL

    now it seems to have moved onto being a retirement destination for managers/brass as well

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  13. 9 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

    Except the Roman Empire had emperors like Augustus, Constantine, etc., as well as the year of the four emperors & Nero.  We have the nadir matched.:P

    you are correct

    probably more of a "made for TV" movie than a big budget block buster

     

    here is the starting line up

    https://www.google.com/search?q=corner+gas+cast&oq=corner+gass&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j46i10i131i433i512j0i10i131i433i512j46i10i131i433i512j0i10i512l4j46i10i512.8625j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    I mean cast

     

    there is already a Hank and Burrows.. it s meant to be

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  14. 17 minutes ago, EdgarM said:

    Kuz didn't seem to have an issue with it.................

    Maybe some felt that towards the previous group? It appears this regime is cleaning up after what was left for them by JB and co.

    Kuz is not the best example though,

    its not like he has been around and knows a lot about the league

    He does not have the experience from being with another team

    his only comparative would be his KHL team

    If he had gotten injured like Tanner Pearson, he might feel differently

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