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All this hype about Bedard but can a 17 year old be the salvation for this team as it currently structured?
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Perhaps this was more about punishing Horvat for not signing ... ship him off to a non-contender in a wasteland. Ha ha ha
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5 minutes ago, Moe Knows said:
Someone please educate poor old Moe..what does the protected or conditional pick mean in the Horvat trade. Be gentle I;m old..
Me too...... help
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11 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said:
supposedly Tocchet has his teams play with things called "structure" and "defence"
Is that why he has a losing record?
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4 minutes ago, Warhippy said:
It's sadly the most logical scenario.
Jimmy Rutherford has a history of doing just this.
Head coach is gone, promote the assistant. Our current next in line is none other than......?
YeoGottaGo...... first
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24 minutes ago, Warhippy said:
They will get changed at the end of the year when Boudreau is not re-signed and Cull and Yeo become the head and assistant coaches.
Think it's bad now? Wait.
Worst case scenario
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2 hours ago, DS4quality said:
My favorite part was when McDavid was crying to the refs and tripped! I laughed so hard
clip?
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3 hours ago, King Heffy said:
Add in the fact that McDiver outright refuses to backcheck and throws tantrums when he's called out for it.
Prima-Donna : a very temperamental person with an inflated view of their own talent or importance.modifier noun: prima-donna -
17 hours ago, OldFaithfulCap said:
We argue because we care, but i suspect we're all going to xanax out and passively watch pretty soon.
I'd say fire Bruce but this team has such a limited ceiling right now that its pointless (though yeo could go and we'd be fine). That being said he seems lost. The lineup decisions continue to baffle me- terrible lines, roster moves (keeping pederson over hoglander?) and constant no practices. In any case there's no grit to fix the defence or checking. We're trending in the right direction for a high pick, just need to not screw up some big trade options.
Least EP will be back soon, he's worth watching.
Yeo Gotta Go!
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Boeser should have been traded
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Where did Petan come from and why was he on the power play? Mystery! Pretty terrible.
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Boeser's agent laughing all the way to the bank.
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IF there is a club willing to take on the Pettersson project at his price I think he should be traded. The experiment on the wing didn't work and at centre (his preferred position) he cannot win a face-off. He is a very expensive passenger.
But I don't think he will be traded... too much invested in his potential to let go.
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3 hours ago, elvis15 said:
Lol, wut?
Impressive.
Is that impressive in the hockey world? pretty low bar.
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4 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said:
Exactly, except that we were lucky enough not to say it on a podcast, etc.
She'll be just fine, I hope that people don't go digging too far into her past quotes from twitter and her podcast.
why was she let go by NJ?
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She seems well qualified but does anyone know why she was let go by NJ?
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10 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said:
JT Miller.
0 shots?
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So much talk about Pettersson but very few comment on the mistakes made by Hughes tonight. Or, that his shot from the point is weak which is part of the problem on the pp.
Ok I know he is pretty much untouchable on here because of his skating and passing bu he needs to be more than that. We sure need a point man that can score.
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45 minutes ago, Jester13 said:
Interesting. Maybe the low-quality shots Green's systems were creating ended with more faceoffs in the o-zone? Shoot it from anywhere and try to get a whistle, kind of thing, because they don't have much success off the rush?
Not many bands could play live outdoors like that and get almost studio sound... remember it was 1969 and cold.... January 30th. John Lennon blowing on fingers to get them warm enough. Sadly .... the end
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Just now, IBatch said:
If we win this game .... i'm going to buy a "Bruce there it is!" Shirt and wear it with pride.
Tough one to bet on
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3 minutes ago, Alflives said:
Does Petey look a bit heavier than before?
Slower for sure....skates straight into traps and loses the puck .... other times gets caught standing still and gets knocked off the puck... not the same player from two seasons ago for sure.
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4 hours ago, -DLC- said:
TBL - They had a #1 & 2 .... 12 & 13 years ago. In the past 10 years they've had one #3 and the rest are all out of the top 10
St. Louis - Highest pick in the past 10 years = #17 (this year)
Washington - Highest pick in past 10 years = #11
Penguins - Highest pick in past 10 years was...Derrick Pouliot at #8! (Sure you have Crosby and Malkin but that was 16 & 17 years ago...I don't know that his fanbase has given OUR #1 picks a fair shake yet!)
Chicago - Kane & Toews drafted 14 & 15 years ago / they have one top 3 pick in the last 10 years
LA - Their top picks were just acquired the past 3 years (highest being #3)...you have to go back 12+ years for their difference makers
Boston - Dougie Hamilton at #9 was the top pick in the past 10 years
So the point here being that top 3 picks don't provide immediate results...it can take years for them to develop and find the right chemistry/mix in a roster. Some here just won't be able to withstand that I'm sure.
So we tank and collect picks and then what?....sit and wait for them to make a difference in a decade. Our instant gratification fans don't have the stamina for that. Our fanbase screams for change (which is fine, I'm ok with it and it's time to try something new that doesn't involve swapping bottom 6 in/out), but it could be years of suffering before we see the results that come with that. I'm not sure this "I want it all and I want it now" fanbase we have here can exercise the patience for that. I mean, many have called OUR top picks a bust already and it's been what....4 years since they were drafted?
Which is why I advocate for a coaching change as a first step in turning things around, because we haven't given this roster enough of a chance. Our bottom 6 has not been good enough for some time, and that's on Benning (to some degree). But I also understand that you take a gamble at times on players and it's hit and miss. Sad but true. This isn't EA NHL where it's just say it and it happens. But there's no denying he's put us in some tough positions and forced our hand.
Some of our players who ARE top picks need the fanbase to support them and booing impacts them more than anyone else. Losing's tough enough on players, to have your fanbase kick you when you're down (which is what booing does), just seems counterproductive to me.
Let's face it, Aquilini is stubborn and quite set in his ways....boo'ing fans likely isn't going to be the breaking point here So that crap just lands on the players' shoulders.
Enough fans will still show up and support the team...the reason I do so is because I've learned to accept the things I can't control. and I love hockey. Period. I feel that some of our fanbase (not all, we have some much smarter hockey minds than me) just love to be disruptive. The late night Granville street drunken crowd mentality in this town of entitlement and instant gratification is definitely a factor. A bunch of spoiled rich kids who equate money to success (rather than hard work). The team's trying....when you're frustrated and it isn't working it's easy to get deflated at times (and it shows).
Just because some of us still support the boys doesn't mean we're idiots or that it's all roses and sunshine for us either. But we're not turning on our team because we know it's likely not going to help in the here and now to throw them under the bus (and their jerseys on the ice). And those who cry for tanking like it's a cure all don't understand how long those picks can take to produce results in the form of a SC. Catch phrases snowball here and, for some anyways, it's more about being the loudest voice in the room. The attention. This idea that you "just draft all the players" isn't a guarantee for instant success...far from it. You have to build around them and that's where it gets tougher.
As a very long and longsuffing fan (still) I agree with almost all of this Deb.... But... at some point the players have to be accountable too. For example from last night's game -
I watched #40 carefully and if his name wasn't Pettersson and he was earning such a large salary would you even play him at all? Saw one good shot and one good defensive play but other than that he seemed to be drifting around like he was lost out there. Boeser wasn't much better... one shot, no hits... and Myers was a nightmare all on his own. What can you say about Dickinson and Poolman...yikes! At some point it comes down to the players regardless of the coaching or management.
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Just woke up and realized the nightmares I was having were actually real ....omg what a shtshow. Just skimmed the comments and most focus on Aquilini, Benning and coaches but what about the players themselves carrying some of the responsibility? I watched #40 last night and if his name wasn't Pettersson and he was earning such a large salary would you even play him at all? Saw one good shot and one good defensive play but other than that he seemed to be drifting around like he was lost out there. Boeser wasn't much better... one shot, no hits... and Myers was a nightmare all on his own. What can you say about Dickinson and Poolman...yikes! At some point it comes down to the players regardless of the coaching or management.
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1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said:
Step 1: Fire Benning, and Green/King/Baumer. Because clearly Benning refuses to make changes. (Unless ownership has said no changes this year)
Step 2: Gear is interm GM, provide him a list of core players that he can't trade unless ownership agrees. Shaw as interm Head Coach. Keep Clark, and find new assistants.
Step 3: If the team can't turn around under new coaching. Trade everyone at the deadline.
Step 4: Hire a President. Who in turn hires the GM, who in turn hires the new head coach.
Welcome back to ground zero.
Not Shaw... he is part of the problem... no sign that he brought any added value to the coaching this year.
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[PGT] Trade Day Edition
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Off topic but Calgary Canucks made great move getting Troy Stecher...