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    [PGT] Vancouver Canucks at Edmonton Oilers | Oct. 02, 2019

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    3 hours ago, Canuckster86 said:

    Canucks home opener is going to drag on even longer than Edm, so whoever was talking about that...That's what teams do to start the year, its like an all start presentation of the team to the fans to say hey...come spend your hard earned $ again, we promise to be better this year!

    Think I will show up 20 minutes late and will be right on time

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    [Official] 2019 Training Camp Thread

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    Posted

    5 hours ago, Camel Toe Drag said:

    It's preseason as well. Don't invest too much stock into it.

    Remind me how we ended up with him? and looking at his history he is not a goal scorer so how does he end up on a choice line with Horvat?

    Sorry I don't know more about this.... he seems such a nobody to be given a prime spot in the line-up.

    Is there more to him thna looks on the record?

    [Official] 2019 Training Camp Thread

    in Canucks Talk

    Posted

    1 hour ago, J-23 said:

    I’ll say it again, should have just sent down Gaud if the solution was this. 

     

    What if Gaud plays first 10 NHL games and we don’t see the same player we saw in pre season.

     

    What if Pearson doesn’t have that same chemistry with Bo?

     

    Keeping Baer gave us options. Bad look on management. He gets picked up by Oilers or something, he will play with McDavid.

    I am curious what others think about Pearson. Watched him closely in the 2nd Ottawa pre-season game (not a strong opponent) and he was almost invisible. Several times lost puck battles right in front of where I was sitting and turned away from the play. He seemed to trail the play rather than making it. Horvat left alone at times to fight for the puck. Anyway... maybe just a bad night...... there must be more to him than showed that night.... I guess.

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    [Report] Eriksson “NOT” likely to be moved on

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    43 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said:

    When I was young and foolish I believed the bolded.

     

    Then young little millennials and the curse of the world - lawyers - came along. In the NHL or business or whatever, these pukes want to be given the moon after barely showing anything but 1 good year at whatever they do. I think it is pathetic now. Yes it was caused by greedy capitalists, stupid NHL gms, a pathetic NHL - NHL PA agreement, and a broken world. 

     

    I can't support any little punk that cries for more money when they are 21 thinking they are owed the world. I like boser, but personally I would love for all those rfa's to miss the year.

     

    But then my cognitive dissonance kicks in.......and I just really want to watch Canuck hockey again!!

    Finally someone with the guts to say it!

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    [Report] Eriksson “NOT” likely to be moved on

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    10 hours ago, Silver Ghost said:

    You make it sound like he has had 3 years of exclusive top line usage and done nothing with it. Thats not close to the truth at all. He was not really given a lot of top 6 opportunity overall considering what they signed him to do.

     

    The coaches certainly share some of the blame. Neither Desjardins nor Green have really attempted to utilize Eriksson in the way Boston did that got the most out of him. He has been largely miscast in Van, which has actually been an ongoing theme in Vancouver back to the Alain Vigneault days. Some players were just square pegs in round holes. Some of that is on Eriksson for not running with the somewhat sporadic opportunities he got for sure. As i have said many times. But really, if you sign a player to a big money deal like that its probably a good idea to understand how he found the success previously that made you want to sign him in the first place and try to get him back to that place. 

     

    Sometimes players dont fit in even playing with great players. Chemistry is not guaranteed. That seems to be the case with Eriksson in Van unfortunately.

     

    Burrows often gets lumped in as a plugger who the Sedins made into a good player but what people miss is that Burrows also made the Sedins more effective by the way he played the game. He gave them space to make plays. He went to the net. He retrieved pucks, forechecked hard, and added a strong defensive conscience to their line. All of these things helped allow the Sedins to play their game. Thats how chemistry works.

     

    I thought at the time that, despite international success as a line, Eriksson would not be a good fit with the Sedins on the Canucks. Unfortunately they were pretty much all we had in his first few years in Van. Last year I thought Eriksson looked pretty good with EP actually. Not lights out, but not worthy of the demotion either. So in a sense I can understand his frustration too.

     

    Players get sat and demoted for all kinds of reasons, and its not always that the best players play. Coaches are human and have favorites who despite struggling never lose their spot. Its not a negative, its just reality. O'Neill's comment is seriously simplified presumably so it can become a soundbyte for the unwashed masses desperate to hate on a guy who by all accounts hasnt lived up to his contract.

     

    Eriksson is up against it now. He has to win any spot he might get. And thats not a bad thing at all. If he can't, he ends up in Utica etc. 

     

    But his time in Vancouver has not only been a failure because of him. It was a bad contract to begin with and thats on Benning. It set the expectations sky high. He has struggled to find a steady role and thats on Desjardins and now Green too. Its their job. 

     

    I want him gone as much as the next guy. But your argument does not seek out any realistic balance at all. 

    "probably a good idea to understand how he found the success previously that made you want to sign him in the first place and try to get him back to that place"  SO what is "his game"? what is this role he hasn't been allowed to play? 

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    2019 NHL Entry Draft in Vancouver, BC

    in Prospects / Farm Team

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    18 minutes ago, Alflives said:

    Big guys disappear in the playoffs too.  It’s not about the player’s physical size, but the size of their heart.  Quinn Hughes is a high compete guy, just like Petey.  These guys actually relish the pressure, because it makes them even better.  

    He is tweeney though.... watched him easily pushed off the puck in World jns and in worlds.

    2019 NHL Entry Draft in Vancouver, BC

    in Prospects / Farm Team

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    26 minutes ago, Fanuck said:

    I pointed to something similar in another thread that people didn't like hearing,  and had a LOT of bs replies to. That was the fact that all these 'elite' skating smaller stature players like Guderau,  Johnson,  Kucherov,  Point,  Arvidson,  ect.... all virtually disappeared in these playoffs.  They were nowhere to be found when the physicality rose to stratospheric levels and time/space to skate/dangle was not there. 

     

    Sure,  people came back with Rat-boy being in the finals but I don't think it's debatable that the majority of smaller guys who dominated the reg season didn't show up in the post season strangely enough.   And I don't mean their production dropped off due to the nature of lower scoring playoff hockey - I mean these small guys were shadows of their regular season performances. I mean was it just a coincidence or a 'one-off' post season? 

     

    That said I do wonder about a kid like QH - anyone thinking he's more elite than guys like Gudreau,  Kucherov,  Point ect...and that he somehow has something these other superstars lack which will make him immune to the physical intensity of playoff hockey is dreaming imo.    

     

    No, I'm not saying he can't be successful,  just asking how he's different than these other stars who made zero impact in the playoffs?  Take the Homer glasses off people and just think about it for a minute. 

    And rat boy plays 20 lbs over his weight!

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