Fakename70

Nice. But, as I asked, “in the room when those decisions are being made” for the Vancouver Canucks, specifically.

Depends on your definition of “we”. I’ll just assume you’re speaking for/of the same delusional and hard-headed CDC’rs who tried their best year-in, year-out to trade Edler after he made it clear he had no interest in waiving his NMC.

“We”? “Us”? Are you in the room when those decisions are being made?

What kind of thinking is that? For player morale, they absolutely mattered.

I’m glad the turnover in the front office led to the hiring of Tocchet, who was able to get a half-season head start on 2023-24.

Look, it’s not going to happen… But, it’d be laughable if it did.

That’ll be the telltale sign he was destined to be a Canuck.

Thanks, GMJB!

As with the rest of the anti-Tocchet crowd, you still haven’t named any of the “numerous options” who were available AT THE TIME he was selected. Maybe you believe Boudreau should have been allowed to finish the season because you think he’s a good guy and, with the way the team was playing, it would’ve positioned the organisation that much closer to Bedard?

Finding NHL content on ESPN was nonexistent for years. I’m not entirely sure if that’s still the case, but, THIS is the best they could come up with?

I’m perplexed at how the Vancouver market was so up in arms behind the firing of Boudreau and hiring of Tocchet, yet, not the firing of Green and subsequent hiring of Boudreau. It went down essentially the same way both times. I’ve no problem with the organisation being proactive in going after an available Head Coach mid-season who they believe offers the stability and structure that is so desperately needed. Whatever name you believe would’ve been a better option, might not have been available at the time the organisation wanted to move forward rather than wait on its heels for someone else to magically fall into their lap after the regular season.

Exactly who were those “more choices” when Tocchet was hired? Surely you’re not suggesting Boudreau should have been allowed to play out the season, are you? If so, you’re forgetting how he was even hired in the first place.

Actually, with the exception of the clueless Canucks, Tortorella has an average shelf life of 5-6 seasons everywhere he’s been. You need a coach to get your young team to playoff level status, he’s your guy. It’s once the players mature - under his tutelage - into veterans who MIGHT be ready to take the next step and genuinely be a playoff threat is when he loses the room and gets the elbow. If Philly has the guts to weather the hard times - and not let the media steer the ship - I wouldn’t expect anything different from that pattern.

And will be for the foreseeable future.

I was hoping Gallant would get the Canucks gig when he was on the market - I believe Green was still in Vancouver then - but, you’re crazy if you’re thinking the organisation somehow shot itself in the foot hiring Tocchet.

I knew it. Yet another leftie.

The only way you’ll get a hockey segment on Worst Take.

Try being a Canuck fan IN Seattle. I don’t mind saying I want that team to lose. I’ve found them annoying for a variety of reasons since day 1, not the least of which was the announcement of the name Kraken. I get the thrill the local yokels have in the shared experience of getting in on the ground floor with that team. But, I think it’s with an asterisk. A second-year team assembled through the expansion draft making it to the semifinals is not that impressive to me.

So, why’d the production drop from that career All-Star first year then? You really believe “he wasn’t willing to put in the necessary effort to remain a legit NHLer”? What proof do you have of that, other than subjective personal opinion? We’re not talking about Brock Boeser here. We’re talking about a guy who had a career year playing on the Sedin line to playing with names barely anyone can recite today without having to look them up first.

I’m not totally convinced it’s the fault of the dinosaur Head Coach that the younger generation of players today might need a time-out in the corner to sort out their feelings. It’s obvious that the Torts model is to give him a roster of young players to be molded by him into grizzled tested veterans ready to take the next step until they tune him out and he loses the room because they don’t need him for that anymore. With the exception of his time in Vancouver, his shelf life at each coaching job has been approximately/at least 5 seasons. I don’t put it all on him that the Canucks hired him at a time when they thought they were still Cup contenders. In hindsight - not that I’m anti-Tocchet - he’d be perfect for the team they have and are still assembling now.

I’m assuming by “these guys” you also include Torts? I’m not sure John’s as rigid as Sutter.

One can only hope.

Reminds me of the drop-off from Vrbata between year 1-to-2. I still don’t think it’s because he suddenly forgot how to play the game of hockey. Had to have been “something else”. I seem to recall CDC’rs bagging on him for supposedly not wanting to be relegated to “mentoring” the younger prospects the second year.

I don’t see Greener getting a Head Coaching job again anytime soon. But, I wouldn’t rule him out as an Assistant. Maybe his career path to the NHL would’ve been better-served had he gone that route in the first place.

Scroll up and look for the name Mitch Love.