Fakename70
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12 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:
Players care about the money for the most part.
How many years have we spent on these boards talking about Shea Weber wanting to come home?
Depends on your definition of “we”. I’ll just assume you’re speaking for/of the same delusional and hard-headed CDC’rs who tried their best year-in, year-out to trade Edler after he made it clear he had no interest in waiving his NMC.
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11 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said:
I really don't know why some fans have trouble with this, yes, we will be buying years of UFA, and we will likely be paying market value to do so. This is the way it always is with everyone.
If we chose to resign Horvat, we would have been buying UFA years at 8.5 million per season. We chose instead to turn him into other assets.
We needed a solid young center who is close to being NHL ready (Raty) - Check
We needed a top 4 RD, we got a 1st round pick and turned it into a top 4 RD at a time when that's REALLY hard to do.
We got another solid asset who's a former 1st round pick who looked pretty good here since the trade. Since the trade, Horvat recorded 7 goals and 9 assists (16 points) playing top line minutes for the Islanders. Beauvillier recorded 9 goals and 11 assists playing mainly top 6 and some 3rd line minutes and was effective and is signed for another year at 4.15 million, a really tradeable number if we do need to move him
Hronek's numbers in the NHL have been really solid, if he performs like he did earlier this year for the Canucks, he's going to cost us 6.5 - 7 million to extend long-term!
Hronek at 6.5 million for 6 or 7 year extension = AWESOME! Exactly what we were looking for, and we get to test drive him for a whole season at a nice reasonable cap rate before we make that decision.
“We”? “Us”? Are you in the room when those decisions are being made?
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13 minutes ago, Bounce000 said:
At least it went to a basement team, so winning all those games in March/April didn’t matter in the end.
What kind of thinking is that? For player morale, they absolutely mattered.
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Just now, combover said:
Some are so Happy to win pointless games at season end then sad our draft position isn’t better.
lolololololololololololl
I’m glad the turnover in the front office led to the hiring of Tocchet, who was able to get a half-season head start on 2023-24.
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Look, it’s not going to happen…
But, it’d be laughable if it did.
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3 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:
I hope Bedard literally vomits on camera if Chicago wins.
That’ll be the telltale sign he was destined to be a Canuck.
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21 hours ago, Alflives said:
We are winning the draft lottery and getting Bedard.
Thanks, GMJB!
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Just now, King Heffy said:
There are numerous options who would have been better options than a ex-con with serious character issues who already caused issues in Arizona with a player now in the Canucks organization. Now Tocchet is also causing problems with Kuzmenko. As it is now, no coach who has any option is going to be willing to come to Vancouver until the vermin infesting the Canucks front office is gone and replaced with professionals. Rutherford intentionally set up Boudreau to fail and chose to not fire the one idiot who had already been brought in to supposedly provide structure in Yeo.
As with the rest of the anti-Tocchet crowd, you still haven’t named any of the “numerous options” who were available AT THE TIME he was selected.
Maybe you believe Boudreau should have been allowed to finish the season because you think he’s a good guy and, with the way the team was playing, it would’ve positioned the organisation that much closer to Bedard?-
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On 3/24/2023 at 5:53 PM, McBackup said:
Oh boy, can’t wait to hear about this again. Never gets old. Next I’ll get to hear someone from outside BC tell me that it has quite literally never stopped pouring rain in Vancouver.
And ESPN is producing. They’re known for their stellar hockey content anyway.
Finding NHL content on ESPN was nonexistent for years. I’m not entirely sure if that’s still the case, but, THIS is the best they could come up with?
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Just now, King Heffy said:
You don't think the Canucks would be better off if Rutherford had conducted himself like a professional and waited until the offseason to hire a coach without a criminal record?
I’m perplexed at how the Vancouver market was so up in arms behind the firing of Boudreau and hiring of Tocchet, yet, not the firing of Green and subsequent hiring of Boudreau. It went down essentially the same way both times.
I’ve no problem with the organisation being proactive in going after an available Head Coach mid-season who they believe offers the stability and structure that is so desperately needed. Whatever name you believe would’ve been a better option, might not have been available at the time the organisation wanted to move forward rather than wait on its heels for someone else to magically fall into their lap after the regular season.
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1 minute ago, Gurn said:
Tochett might have been the guy I'd take; but we will see who else ends up needing work
Rick might well work out fine, but I'd rather have had more choices, before signing a coach.
Exactly who were those “more choices” when Tocchet was hired? Surely you’re not suggesting Boudreau should have been allowed to play out the season, are you? If so, you’re forgetting how he was even hired in the first place.
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On 5/6/2023 at 3:47 PM, canuck73_3 said:
He's like Torterella imo he has an effective 2 year window or it's gonna blow up on you. Torterella in the right fit seems good for 3 years max.
Actually, with the exception of the clueless Canucks, Tortorella has an average shelf life of 5-6 seasons everywhere he’s been. You need a coach to get your young team to playoff level status, he’s your guy. It’s once the players mature - under his tutelage - into veterans who MIGHT be ready to take the next step and genuinely be a playoff threat is when he loses the room and gets the elbow. If Philly has the guts to weather the hard times - and not let the media steer the ship - I wouldn’t expect anything different from that pattern.
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8 hours ago, grumpyone said:
Travis Green is still available...jus sayin'
And will be for the foreseeable future.
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On 5/6/2023 at 2:42 PM, Gurn said:
As the list of available coaches grow, the hiring of Tochett will look more and more dubious.
I was hoping Gallant would get the Canucks gig when he was on the market - I believe Green was still in Vancouver then - but, you’re crazy if you’re thinking the organisation somehow shot itself in the foot hiring Tocchet.
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On 5/6/2023 at 11:20 AM, -Vintage Canuck- said:
I knew it. Yet another leftie.
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On 5/2/2023 at 9:55 AM, mll said:
The only way you’ll get a hockey segment on Worst Take.
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33 minutes ago, kilgore said:
Give your head a shake. I'm for the Kraken to get their feet wet, and its fun cheering on our PN bros right now. Get more new Seattle hockey fans to cheer against. But winning against Dallas would be the last series I want them to win.
I want a slow built rivalry with Seattle. I want us to meet a few times in the playoffs. To think that we finally get a NW rival, and right off the bat, they get to rub a Cup in our faces? Forever. Before we even get started with them? That we have to go into their arena after this season with a Stanley Cup Championship banner hanging from their rafters? That their fans can mock us with going forward? An expansion team in their second season, just down the road?
That it doesn't matter if there are periods where we get better, and they decline, like has happened with the next closest rivals, Calgary and Edmonton. And where their fans can always point up to the rafters no matter how much we thrash them.
I'm used to suffering in the sad club here. And I can withstand a lot of pain as a Canucks fan. But please Hockey Gods don't pile this on top of the heap to deal with.
Try being a Canuck fan IN Seattle. I don’t mind saying I want that team to lose. I’ve found them annoying for a variety of reasons since day 1, not the least of which was the announcement of the name Kraken. I get the thrill the local yokels have in the shared experience of getting in on the ground floor with that team. But, I think it’s with an asterisk. A second-year team assembled through the expansion draft making it to the semifinals is not that impressive to me.
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3 hours ago, King Heffy said:
He also floated like hell the first year but got away with it thanks to the team not having a real coach. When the production dropped, he wasn't willing to put in the necessary effort to remain a legit NHLer.
So, why’d the production drop from that career All-Star first year then? You really believe “he wasn’t willing to put in the necessary effort to remain a legit NHLer”?
What proof do you have of that, other than subjective personal opinion? We’re not talking about Brock Boeser here. We’re talking about a guy who had a career year playing on the Sedin line to playing with names barely anyone can recite today without having to look them up first.
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9 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:
I agree with @Fanuck Coaches like Sutter are products of a bygone age and just don't work in the modern NHL. I said much the same thing when the Canucks hired Torts and some genius started the "John Tortarella: Best Canucks coach ever!" thread...
That old Eddie Shore, "my way or the highway" routine doesn't fly with players making millions in salary and even more in endorsements. It might work (for a while) with a very young team, but with a veteran laden roster like the Flames, it was always going to age poorly.
That doesn't mean you can't be a disciplinarian from time to time. Part of what makes a good coach is knowing when a player needs a pat on the back and when he needs a kick in the posterior....You just can't do either of them all the time....something Sutter was slow to learn.
I’m not totally convinced it’s the fault of the dinosaur Head Coach that the younger generation of players today might need a time-out in the corner to sort out their feelings.
It’s obvious that the Torts model is to give him a roster of young players to be molded by him into grizzled tested veterans ready to take the next step until they tune him out and he loses the room because they don’t need him for that anymore. With the exception of his time in Vancouver, his shelf life at each coaching job has been approximately/at least 5 seasons. I don’t put it all on him that the Canucks hired him at a time when they thought they were still Cup contenders.
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9 hours ago, Fanuck said:
Sutter is a fossil from a bygone era. These guys do NOT know how to deal with today's modern NHL players nor today's modern NHL media and I suspect that is one of the main reasons why the team moved on from him. His style was accepted in CGY only as long as he was winning. There are very few of these guys around the NHL anymore doing any 'meaningful' jobs because franchises have simply moved on - kinda like there are pretty much zero 'stand-up' goalies left anywhere in pro-hockey - the game has moved on.
Today's modern NHL stars are 'entitled elitists' - they've been groomed their entire lives to expect certain things whether they deserve them or not. In Sutter's generation, NOBODY was given anything, you only got what you earned and he can't reconcile that with today's NHL player whether it's right or wrong it is, 'the way'.
I’m assuming by “these guys” you also include Torts? I’m not sure John’s as rigid as Sutter.
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3 hours ago, goog16 said:
Wouldn't be the least surprised if they hired Benning and Green...
One can only hope.
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6 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said:
I don't think Flames fans are giving Huberdeau and Kadri a pass. I can't imagine the words that would come to their mind thinking about Huberdeau-Tkachuk. But two things can be true at once. No sane coach would take a 115-point player and force him to play out of position in favour of Lucic. No one.
Reminds me of the drop-off from Vrbata between year 1-to-2. I still don’t think it’s because he suddenly forgot how to play the game of hockey. Had to have been “something else”. I seem to recall CDC’rs bagging on him for supposedly not wanting to be relegated to “mentoring” the younger prospects the second year.
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7 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:
Travis
I don’t see Greener getting a Head Coaching job again anytime soon. But, I wouldn’t rule him out as an Assistant. Maybe his career path to the NHL would’ve been better-served had he gone that route in the first place.
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20 minutes ago, BureBurrito said:
Got to think it's their AHL coach who will be considered...maybe Collition?
Scroll up and look for the name Mitch Love.
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Nice. But, as I asked, “in the room when those decisions are being made” for the Vancouver Canucks, specifically.