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  1. I want us to tanK TANK tank for a couple years, play our young players and mix them in with our vets, stock pile picks and draft high for a couple years then resign guys like Bieksa, hammer and bring in the youth

    we only really need to tank for one year.

    Shink - Mcdavid - Jensen/ UFA

    #6 - Horvat - Kassian

    Higgins - Gaunce - ???

    ??? - ???? - ????

  2. First of all Kassian is my favourite player but in his draft, people had him at #4 and also said he was a rare player with size and skill. Not im not knocking on Kassian but lets say if we was drafted at 4th overall where some scouts had him at and he developed slowly, do you think fans would have a lot of patience? Now I know your going to say Ritchie is a different type of player blah blah blah, but generally speaking they are both power forwards with skill so therefore it makes complete sense to compare those two.

    Kassian's development was hindered in Buffalo. His 2 years there meant almost nothing and when we took him on, we pretty much had to mold him from scratch. If we draft Ritchie, we can groom him from the start

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  3. Ok i read the last 10 pages and here's what I'm going to say.

    we need to address our needs. Skill is necessary in every division, conference, league. However, why not take a guy that has skill and size? Everyone here is arguing and defending the guy they want, but are making stuff up to make the other guy look bad.

    I'm just going to say that I'm all for Ritchie. It seems to me that everybody is saying his dominance won't translate to the NHL. I would like to point out that Lucic was 220 when he was in the WHL. Whether Ritchie loses weight or gains weight, he will most definitely get stronger. He has skating that does not hinder his ability to get to where he needs to be. He is a good skater for his size. He has very good vision and is a good passer. He also has a very good shot. On top of that, he runs guys over. And guess what? When he goes to the NHL, he'll continue to run guys over because he is only going to get stronger

  4. Kapanen is simply not worth a 6th, nor are Nylander or Ehlers. Esp. when you consider a top-5 could drop. Taking a pointless risk on them instead of just picking up a better player is foolhardy.

    It seems like you have something negative to say about anybody that's not in the top 5

  5. The reason we need to pick Ehlers or Nylander is they both have UNUSUAL speed and can operate at top speed. Especially in Ehlers case.

    These guys keep wanting SIZE , and try to claim they are also just as fast and talented. If Ritchie or Vit were as fast and talented as Ehlers not only would they go 1-2 in the draft, they would all be calling them both the next Eric Lindros .

    Its far easier to see NHL potential in guys like Ehlers because of their speed and skill. He isnt bullying over kids . He is so fast that you can actually clock his speed and know for a fact he will be effective at the NHL level.

    Big guys who use their body are playing against amateur boys . Most of whom arent fully grown or filled out. Its very easy to see a power forward from a guy who is just bigger and stronger than junior boys. They get to the NHL level and they do not have the same size or speed advantage, and are at a loss to figure out a plan B.

    So they end up being grinders. Ask Steve Bernier , Raffi Torres, and Taylor Pyatt. All whom bullied they way around junior. True power forwards are very rare.

    So when you have a real chance to draft unusual talent, you throw it away to draft a big winger? Big wingers being touted as the next power forward are proclaimed every draft. We just got Jensen and Gaunce at 29 and 26. They will be there next year and the year after too.

    Finding guys like Ehlers and Nylander are very rare. Lets take advantage of it.

    There are guys like Ehlers and Nylander in every draft and maybe with a bit more size

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  6. for the 5th time, Ritchie has high skill level good speed, great skating ability, good hockey sense.

    Why do do some of you assume Ritchie is a slow player? I don't get it.

    I agree. He has no problem getting to where he needs to go. He is a very decent skater. He has very good vision. He makes great passes and has a very good shot and can pick the sweet spots. He is also very physical

  7. Bear in mind those teams were built with players throughout the draft, not exclusively (not even close) guys picked in the Top 10. Although they also nailed it when they had such picks; see Doughty, Marleau and Lindholm. Somehow they acquired top guys too, like Thornton a number one overall guy and Selanne.

    Detroit, built on speed and skills, mixes in big guys like Abdelkader, and gives them fits. Guys like Koptar and Hertl slipped,in the draft despite being big, fast and skilled because they were European. They draft talent instead of passing on a slower guys cuz he's a "good Canadian kid." God I hate that expression sometimes. Most Canadian teams lose their objectivity in this phrase IMO!

    They also draft skilled defenceman! Anaheim has Fowler, Sbisa and Lindholm, plus Theodore in the wings. LA drafted Muzzin, Martinez and Voynov. SJ grabbed Vlassic... It must be 6 or so years since we invested a first or 2knd round pick on a D? So we lack depth and top end skill on the back end, despite finding good guys (Hamhuis, Garrison, Tanev) to fill out our line up.

    Ultimately, its very expensive to build a defense squad around UFA's... 100% of our guys, even Bieksa and Edler, are UFA contracts. And impossible to find talent like Doughty.

    They pick up size and speed for depth where they can get it, draft or otherwise. King, Sheppard, Nolan, Etem, Torres, Brown, Williams, Carter, Kennedy, BURNS, Wingels, Richards, Maroon and others come from a variety of sources. Some are drafted, some, regurgitated fall out, some free agents. The key is they have size, speed, athleticism and grit to fill put their lineup. Not miscast talent mid sized players (like Dalpe), or small guys (like Schroeder) then ask them to be a shut down player or 4th line energy guy to cover the GM's ass.

    Most importantly; their development and coaching recognizes the skill set of players, and crafts roles suited to the player! Muzzin gets reign to move and be creative with the puck, even on a defensive team. Not tasked with clearing the net and blocking shots to get ice time. How long did we spend trying to get Schroeder and Hodgson to be defensively responsible before we gave them a shot in an offensive role???

    In the end they draft speed and size, skill players, goal scorers, puck movers on D, danglers and grinders. Then give them the right roles.

    The bottom line is these teams use better fundamentals, a more balanced approach to drafting to fill out their teams.

    So basically the Canucks lack in everything

  8. Bear in mind those teams were built with players throughout the draft, not exclusively (not even close) guys picked in the Top 10. Although they also nailed it when they had such picks; see Doughty, Marleau and Lindholm. Somehow they acquired top guys too, like Thornton a number one overall guy and Selanne.

    Detroit, built on speed and skills, mixes in big guys like Abdelkader, and gives them fits. Guys like Koptar and Hertl slipped,in the draft despite being big, fast and skilled because they were European. They draft talent instead of passing on a slower guys cuz he's a "good Canadian kid." God I hate that expression sometimes. Most Canadian teams lose their objectivity in this phrase IMO!

    They also draft skilled defenceman! Anaheim has Fowler, Sbisa and Lindholm, plus Theodore in the wings. LA drafted Muzzin, Martinez and Voynov. SJ grabbed Vlassic... It must be 6 or so years since we invested a first or 2knd round pick on a D? So we lack depth and top end skill on the back end, despite finding good guys (Hamhuis, Garrison, Tanev) to fill out our line up.

    Ultimately, its very expensive to build a defense squad around UFA's... 100% of our guys, even Bieksa and Edler, are UFA contracts. And impossible to find talent like Doughty.

    They pick up size and speed for depth where they can get it, draft or otherwise. King, Sheppard, Nolan, Etem, Torres, Brown, Williams, Carter, Kennedy, BURNS, Wingels, Richards, Maroon and others come from a variety of sources. Some are drafted, some, regurgitated fall out, some free agents. The key is they have size, speed, athleticism and grit to fill put their lineup. Not miscast talent mid sized players (like Dalpe), or small guys (like Schroeder) then ask them to be a shut down player or 4th line energy guy to cover the GM's ass.

    Most importantly; their development and coaching recognizes the skill set of players, and crafts roles suited to the player! Muzzin gets reign to move and be creative with the puck, even on a defensive team. Not tasked with clearing the net and blocking shots to get ice time. How long did we spend trying to get Schroeder and Hodgson to be defensively responsible before we gave them a shot in an offensive role???

    In the end they draft speed and size, skill players, goal scorers, puck movers on D, danglers and grinders. Then give them the right roles.

    The bottom line is these teams use better fundamentals, a more balanced approach to drafting to fill out their teams.

    So basically the Canucks lack in everything

  9. 6'2 1/2 and 230 with baby fat, just like Buf he will be asked to lose weight not gain it. He will be playing at 215 to 220 in the NHL.

    Buf needs to lose weight because it affects his mobility. Ritchie has no problem getting to where he needs to be. Bertuzzi, Lucic, and Pyatt were never asked to lose weight. Ritchie will not be asked to lose weight either. Why? Because they're power forwards and they use their weight to their advantage

  10. I can guarantee that Horvat is 210 right now without having to weight train. He is still a teenager by the time he hits his 20's he will easly put on 10 pounds of muscle. Jensen is the same at 6'3 and in his 20's his is already 205 pounds another 10 pounds for his height is very doable.

    Vladimir Tarasenko and Horvat have similar frames and Tarasenko is 6'0 219.

    Ryan nugent hopkins is the same height as tarasenko so I assume he'll have no problem putting on 48 pounds? They're not going to put on so much weight because they don't need it and it'll affect their skating

  11. Horvat has a larger frame than Toews and will be 220 in his prime.Same can be said of Jensen and he will be 215 in his prime. Ritchie is large, but like Gaunce will more than likely be a third liner. So no will do not need big and average skill like Ritchie we need elite skill; big or small.

    If either of them hit those numbers, I'll staple my balls to a bruins jersey. I can guarantee you neither of them will hit those numbers. Especially Jensen

  12. Speed would better on that line so Shink, or Ehler, Virt.

    I can see how that might work. Horvat and Kassian can create space for Ehlers to go to work, and they can clean up around the net. However, I envision a 2nd line that brings a completely different element than the first line. I see Ritchie, Horvat and Kassian bring skill, while destroying their oponents physically, and making defenders cringe every time they step on the ice.

  13. I guess Horvat, Jensen and Guance are all small and unskilled.

    Horvat is built a bit like Toews. He's not big but he is rugged and doesn't get pushed around. His size is very average.

    Jensen's size is also average but he isn't nearly physical enough

    Gaunce is big but I don't see him fit in the top 6. He'll probably be a very solid 3c

    So yea we don't have enough big-skilled guys

  14. Our skill level has gone downhill and we only have one big guy that has skill. We need what Ehlers and Ritchie can bring. The simple thing to do would be to trade for Anaheim's pick and draft both. However, they both play LW and we already have Shink on LW. So that means we can only get one. I see Shink on our first line so that leaves a hole in the second line. I see Horvat centering that 2nd line so the question now becomes, who compliments Horvat better? I think that someone would be Ritchie.

    Ritchie - Horvat - Kassian

    maaan that is sick nasty

  15. I hate double quote but I know where he is coming from. Do you think a 235 lb kid might be too big at this point in time or does register at all with you. Fat kids are easy to beat. You know what I mean?

    Just wondering what you think?

    as long as it doesn't affect his performance, I don't see anything wrong with it. He seems to be a decent skater as well so there's no problem.

    But yea he's probably got a bit of fat tucked in there

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