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    [Signing] Canucks sign Micheal Ferland

    in Trades, Rumours, Signings

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    Just now, John McClane said:

    What if JB is signing Fer because he is including Jake as the add on to get Louie out?

     

    Louie + Jake, to mystery team.

     

    For

     

    X

     

    I hope not. But .........

    I mean why would you hope not? If the only thing that prevented us to get rid of Louie was swapping JV for Ferland I would totally do it

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    [Signing] Canucks sign Micheal Ferland

    in Trades, Rumours, Signings

    Posted · Edited by Grape

    6 minutes ago, MikeBossy said:

    I am confused - Pearson really clicked with Horvat - so why the hell are people putting him on the 3rd line??

    Honestly I think putting him definitively on the 2nd line shows recency bias over a very small sample size. I would bet that he doesn't end up on the 2nd line at the end of the season. 

     

    His production is worse than Baer, even though it's understandable to put him ahead since Sven has been injured. 

     

    I think EP, BB, JT, Bo are top 6 locks. Between Ferland, Sven, and Pearson, two of them will play in the top 6 as well

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    Quinn Hughes Surprises Fan at Graduation

    in Canucks Talk

    Posted · Edited by Grape

    25 minutes ago, ilduce39 said:

    The most likely people to be interested in this story would be this kid, his friends and family.  

     

    If they peruse this site, they now get 3 pages of your headcase contrarian nonsense instead of enjoying what boils down to a classy move and awesome moment for Quinn and this kid.  Something there is no shame in others enjoying, being inspired by and applauding.

     

    Honestly, it’s super selfish and rude to hijack a pretty slam dunk feel good thread with this garbage.

    I wouldn't call it selfish. I think that's a big stretch. Unless having an opinion is selfish.

     

    I mean I see his point even though I don't agree at all personally. Not sure why we have to resort to calling the opinion selfish or attacking him the way many on here have.

     

    IDK, should we never have negative opinions of, let's say, players we just drafted because their families might be reading? This is a forum for the reason and I think everyone should be able to express their opinions.

     

    If Brad Marchand would to ever do this and there was a thread about it @MystifyNCrucify 's opinion would be popular lol

    [Signing] Maple Leafs re-sign Alexander Kerfoot

    in Trades, Rumours, Signings

    Posted · Edited by Grape

    16 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

    I wonder if this will make the pampered kid from West Van less arrogant? 

     

    I’m friends with Kerfoot’s lil bro and went to the same HS as them so I know him a bit, and honestly he is a good guy. His bro is probably more arrogant/sarcastic than him. Not one of those stereotypical jock athletes in high school.

     

    Unrelated story though: I was working at subway last summer as a summer job and one of my coworkers was a 5’6 Filipino 19 year old who had just come to Canada not long ago and just started playing hockey half a year ago as a goalie. He somehow had aspirations to play in the NHL and was really trying hard to get Judd Brackett to scout him at his local practice facility. I tried to talk him out of it for his own good since he was spending a lot of money investing in it and he had never played a competitive game in his life. So then he proceeded to show me a Facebook message he sent to Alex Kerfoot, where he asked him how he can make it into the league. Kerfoot responded in a paragraph telling him that if essentially that if he believes in himself he can do anything he wants. My coworker told me that because of that message he will continue to invest money and try to get into the league until he is 25.

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    Future Canucks Lineup

    in Canucks Talk

    Posted

    I'm sure we all know that the lineup won't even look close to like that in a few years because of inevitable transactions.

     

    But for a estimate based off of what we have now, that doesn't look bad.

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    [Report] Vegas looking to trade Nikita Gusev

    in Trades, Rumours, Signings

    Posted · Edited by Grape

    43 minutes ago, rekker said:

    I agree. Great numbers in the KHL but so do Linden Vey and Nigel Dawes. Also, how much does he want? If he's holding out for a huge payday while never playing a shift in the NHL yet then he's a possibly a flake as well. 

     

    31 minutes ago, N7Nucks said:

    Rumor has it he wants somewhere in the 3-4 range, which is a bit ridiculous given he has done nothing at the NHL level. Hence the trade rumors surrounding him. I think as summer goes on I bet his ask goes down to the 2-3mil range on a 1 year deal. I think the trade rumors are just a bargaining move by Vegas to get him down on his asking price.

    For every one of those guys there's also an Artemi Panarin. We've seen what Vey and Dawes do on the NHL level but we never saw what Panarin did.

     

    Of course there's risk but I think it's foolish to only give up a guy that basically doesn't add anything to the team anymore like Goldobin. There's SO MUCH potential offense that you have to give up more.

     

    Even if it doesn't work out, I would do the same thing with a similar player 10 times out of 10. The payoff is significant that when it does work out you basically get a potentially elite player at a discount.

    What is your 2019-2020 projected lineup for the Canucks?

    in Canucks Talk

    Posted

    38 minutes ago, RRypien37 said:

    Don't even have to go that far. 

     

    2009/10 team had: Desbiens, Hordichuk, Alberts, Rome, O'Brien, Rypien, Glass, Mitchell, Bieksa, Bernier

     

    And early/mid 2000's had a TON of big and tough players. 

    Holy crap thinking about that team is insane. That’s an entire squad of goons. And we were still a really good team.

    [Signing] Tyler Myers to Vancouver

    in Trades, Rumours, Signings

    Posted · Edited by Grape

    4 hours ago, SilentSam said:

    It’s not being soft.. he is an idiot, everything is overanalyzed doom and gloom out of his mouth..  don’t think I even heard “Welcome to Vancouver Tyler” out of his mouth,. and if there was it would have been politically deceptive of the negativity he has been posting about this player and all over this city for years..  there is not an upbeat bone in his body.. 

    Nothing even remotely “Devils advocate” about him,.  Guy needs some pragmatism in his context.. 

    Theres always the “guy” who says the opposite of others, because it’s easy.. doesn’t have to think about his questioning,. because he’s lazy,....    Because he is soft.    Patterson is Soft.   and just plain Sh/##y.

    People here will always sh** on any guy that is against the regime. I share a more optimistic view but as a fan I absolutely understand their concern.

     

    Guys like Botch did and said the absolute same things. For just stating his opinions and being honest about his opinions on the direction of the team, he was condemned heavily and seen by many as a troll and an illegitimate member of the media just trying to get clicks. Until tragedy hit not many on here saw and understood what he was really about. Almost always, if people believe differently, it's like, THEIR opinion. That's all it is, there's no calculation behind it. People have opinions. In this case, I don't think Patterson believes in JB really at all, but that's his opinion, whatever. I think not being one of the worst teams the last 5 years may have helped. If a guy was consistently and unconditionally positive towards everything the Canucks do, I don't think they would be part of Canucks media. Calling someone an idiot for believing against what people want to believe is extremely ignorant and childish.

     

    Regarding the "Welcome to Vancouver Tyler," part, how is it in any way his responsibility to welcome Myers to the organization? He's literally a guy in the media that writes things, expresses his opinions, and provides news from time to time. He's not part of the organization. Getting offended by something he says is absolutely soft, especially if you believe that he's doing this exactly for the purpose of riling you up, then why succumb to it?

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    [Signing] Tyler Myers to Vancouver

    in Trades, Rumours, Signings

    Posted

    Not gonna call out people specifically but some people here are so soft. The media will say what they feel. It doesn’t mean they’re doing it for clicks, or that they’re bad people and reporters because you disagree with them. Getting offended because someone in the media is expressing their own objective opinion is soft. Those guys have made it into the field for a reason.

     

    I personally like the contract and the player. However there’s no doubt that if a team like Edmonton or Boston signed Myers to this deal some of you would say the exact same thing Patterson is. And some of you that are saying “why can’t we just wait before criticizing and writing him off,” would be doing exactly that if he was signing with a rival.

     

    Point is that guys like Patterson are just expressing their opinions. I disagree too with him to a certain extent. But it doesn’t mean he’s fishing for clicks or a bad reporter. Stop being so soft.

    [Signing] Tyler Myers to Vancouver

    in Trades, Rumours, Signings

    Posted

    Just now, oldnews said:

    I don't see a word of information there wadr.

    Will respond if you engage any of the actual material regarding his objective outcomes.

    That's fair. I obviously didn't officially cite anything I said but if you want it's pretty easy to look up.

     

    It's close to 2AM here so I'll refrain from getting into anything :P. 

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    [Signing] Tyler Myers to Vancouver

    in Trades, Rumours, Signings

    Posted · Edited by Grape

    6 minutes ago, oldnews said:

    ironic

    I've probably wasted more time posting at Myers' actual outcomes than anyone else on these boards.  Have you glimpsed the Myers in Vancouver thread?

    I'll repeat it all - right after the explanation of why it is an 'obvious overpayment'

    No problem, I'll copy and paste what I just posted in response to another poster:

     

    "So if Loui Eriksson right now got a 6.5 million per year contract that wouldn't be overpaying because he's getting 6 million right now? What kind of logic is that?

     

    This is an overpayment, CLEARLY, just as 95% of FA deals are, just as his 5.5 million dollar contract to play on WPG's 2nd or 3rd pairing was as well.

     

    However, it's also probably the best anyone could've done with Myers so props to JB. That does not take away from the fact that Myers is not worth 6 million dollars."

     

    I'll add a few things. Myers' advanced numbers aren't pretty. Advanced hockey stats (ESPECIALLY HOCKEY), are often misleading however, and you have to take that into account and consider that he's had considerable success as a player in his career and is sought after for a reason. I don't believe he is a replacement level player/3rd pairing Dman as some advanced stats say, but I do take those into consideration, and also consider the fact that he isn't particularly great at anything other than being big. Altogether there's enough negatives to tell you that he isn't worth 6 million. I think 4.5 is a good number in this day and age, but 6 is an absolute overpayment, although very necessary in order to require his services, which I don't mind at all.

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