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Just now, spook007 said:
Pretty much...
Karlsson looks like a player as well as Bains.
Think the real positive is the club now have a coaching set up, that seems to improve the players.
Thats a great point. We finally have a good development system in place.
With the move to Abby and good work by colliton and staff, hopefully players are on the same system and it's just plug and play whenever they get called up.
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So what are the positives to this season?
Our Jr Canucks hung with the best team in the AHL where it literally could have gone either way?
Hogz looks ready for a reg spot in the NHL?
Wolanin might be poised for NHL next year?
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16 minutes ago, Rick Blight said:
Only on AHLTV.com for a price
It seems hella expensive to watch ahl online lol
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21 minutes ago, Insensitive said:
I agree with this. Toronto and Montreal are both able to have their own media that do broadcasts for their AHL affiliates. I don't see any reason why the Canucks can't do the same for their fans. It's not as though there's any shortage of media surrounding the club or fans to consume it. It would make sense for the big club to expose their fans to the AHL affiliate. They would sell more tickets and draw more advertisers to the minor league squad.
For the old school guys, this would be perfect on I think it used to be channel 4, Rogers community channel lol
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It's gameday right? Why so quiet? Is Podz in?
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Just now, Elias Pettersson said:
Brock Nelson was their 1C in the playoffs. He had 5 points. His ozone starts were at 65%. Palmieri also had 5 points. Without them, the Islanders probably don't even win one game...
Interesting.
So they used horvat as a shutdown centre and used Nelson as the 1c?
So who was horvat mainly matched up against?
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9 minutes ago, AnthonyG said:
Okay so offensively Horvat had a poor playoffs…. But defensively he was sound.
Why did Horvat struggle with offence?
It’s simple.
38.3% oZS in all situations
34.8% oZS at even strength.
Horvat was utilized as a shutdown player and his CORSI at ES, despite having under 40%oZS
51.5% CORSI
Horvat drove possession BIG TIME. They just couldnt score.
His line had 62SCF and 31SCA37/62 SCF were high danger areas
14/31 SCA were high danger areas
Horvat was on the ice for 4 goals for and only 2 against. He also scored a short handed goal for the Isles.
Sorokin also had a 2.5+ GSAA against Horvat and his line.
Chirp his offence all you want, he was not put in a position to succeed offensively. He was put in a position to stop offence, to which he did a fantastic job. Only on the ice for 2 of the 16 goals against. His goalie had a .957sv% at even strength when Horvat was on the ice.
Wow
Logic amongst all the Horvat hate
Nice work
Didn't realize his o zone starts were so minimal.
So who took most of the o zone draws? I would have expected them to do that with their 1c...
Unfortunate that they used their 8.5m 1c to play a 3c game
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1 hour ago, spook007 said:
Lets see how they fare, when the whistles are put away. Bo had a poor play offs, but he was good during the bubble together with Motte...
The big issue is durability...
And of course being able to clear the crease...
I guess our hope is that our smaller guys are like the next Marchand or even Burrows.
My hope is hogz becomes a Marty st Louis type player.
Guys that lack size but make up for it with hustle and never quite attitude.
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22 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said:
Even if he's not quite ready to go yet, just seeing him out there and thinking that he might be ready for a potential game 4 or 5 has got to give the rest of the guys a boost.
I really hope he's good to go by tomorrow.
Want to see him and hogz and Raty) if he plays) dominate.
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Boeser retained + Garland or AB and Raty for PLD.
Myers for whatever
Kuz Petey Mik
Podz Miller AB
Kravy PLD Hogz
Joshua Aman PDG
Hughes Severson
OEL Hronek
Wolanin Brisbois
Burroughs
Last pairing 5-7D is up for grabs including Woo, Rathbone, Johansson, Wolanin, Brisbois, Burroughs
Demko
This means our window is now
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5 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:
I think you are missing the bigger picture here that Aquilini was the one that hired Boudreau, so JR needed his permission to fire him. He didn't have that permission in the summer when JR didn't even realize Boudreau had extended his contract for one more year. The Canucks were a .500 team until the end of December. January 8, 2023 is when the rails started to come off and they lost 8 out of their next 10 games. That's when the rumours came out that JR was talking to Tocchet because some of the parasites in the media spotted him and Aquilini in Las Vegas.
Aquilini was with JR in Vegas. What does that tell you? That JR needed Aquilini's permission to fire Boudreau and he didn't have it yet. They eventually fired him on January 22, 2023. So not sure where you keep getting this two months timeline from. The Canucks were a .500 hockey club on January 1. The rails came off on January 8 and they fired Boudreau less than 2 weeks later. Did you expect JR to change up his timeline on firing Boudreau because of media leaks? GM's don't make decisions based on the media's timeline. You don't fire a coach and replace him with an assistant for 2 weeks because the media leaks that you are talking to anothe coach. That makes no sense and is now how things work. GM's talk to coaches all the time before hiring a new one, where the current coach is still employed. This exact same thing happened to Boudreau himself, where he admitted that he watched the last game of Anaheim with Randy Carlyle as coach knowing that he was already hired to be his replacement before they even announced the firing. So Anaheim's GM talked with Boudreau, hired him and THEN fired Carlyle. Isn't that exactly what JR did with Boudreau?
Yup it's a common practice but this time, the media found out. One possible reason could be that Tocchet had to give a 2 weeks notice with TnT prior to leaving. It would be very easy to piece together the entire story at that point. Maybe the leak came from there. We don't know exactly what happened besides the fact that what happened is normally a common practice but this time the media found out. Canucks are usually air tight in their operations so that's why I'm looking at the possibility that the source might have been TNT
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9 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:
So cool to see these young guns for Djurgardens finally taking the reigns and being difference-makers at this level. Two goals for Ohgren today and the first one was so clutch. Stripped the MoDo defenseman at the defensive blueline and was gone for the breakaway. Huge goal by Lekkerimaki and his possession game is off the charts. Now ranks 2nd on the team in corsi for playoffs at over 60%. There was one shift from a couple games ago where Djurgardens was protecting a lead in the 3rd and Lekkerimaki and Ohgren just cycled it high-low in the offensive zone for a solid 30 seconds before putting it deep and going for a change.
It's the thing I've always found so intriguing with Lekkerimaki - the possession-to-attack ratio. So many highly skilled young players are constantly looking to attack the inside, which yes of course is great, it increases your chance of scoring goals, and it also increases your chance of losing possession. Lekkerimaki will lull opponents into a false sense of security. He gets the puck and gets it off to a teammate with space, it's give-and-go, rotate places, high-low, behind the net, spin back, etc. Opposing defenders can't retrieve the puck but are satisfied enough to keep him to the outside. He makes 4, 5, 6 possession plays in a row, just waiting and watching for a defensive breakdown, and then he often seems to anticipate them almost before they happen.
Would be so much fun to see them complete the comeback, and as good as Stefan Elliot and Marcus Kruger and some of the veterans are (for this league), it's not going to happen unless Lekkerimaki and Ohgren continue to take their games to new levels and lead the way.
Thanks for the insight to his game.
Frankly I had no idea how he plays minus his lethal shot.
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7 minutes ago, mll said:
Lamoriello likely had a pretty pretty good indication of the price range and willingness to extend before making the trade. Lamoriello also traded for who he thought was a C1 - the price range for a C1 is pretty well known especially with some of the recent signings.
Before the trade Seravalli was already throwing out 8-9M for Horvat and assuring there was a team willing to give him 9M as they saw him as an O'Reilly. In the off-season ie before he even went on his scoring spree, Couturier came up as comparable. Horvat then went on to score all those goals so price went up. Can't really see Lamoriello be so naive to think he was going to take anything less than 8+.
I dunno about that.
You think a team would offer him 8.5 if he went to ufa? I just can't fathom it.
Pundits always throw around numbers but that doesn't really mean they know what's going on internally.
They were throwing around some crazy numbers for JTM and when he signed for 8m, ppl were surprised.
Its the media's job to stir the pot and sometimes its the same media guys that have agents as their "sources"
I don't think you. Trade a first, Raty and AB if you think you're gonna end up paying 8.5 for Bo.
If Miller is untradable @ 8m as some suggest, what does that say about horvat?
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42 minutes ago, ktcy2 said:
My oh my….. people on here who think Boeser is actually better than horvat… lmao. Nothing can be funnier. Boeser had no taker for free. Horvat was the top number one target in the trade market this entire year. Yeah, Boeser is better… go figure
The funny thing is, the team seems to be doing fine without Horvat.
Miller has filled his spot admirably and is actually doing a better job at it. My guess is, the team will be fine without Boeser as well.
Horvat was a top trade target because Allvin was smart enough to prevent other GMs from negotiating with Horvat prior to the trade. I can guarantee you that if they knew he would demand 8.5x8, the market would actually be very small.
That's why Horvat's camp completely had Lou by the balls. Lou was the only one dumb enough to trade a bunch of assets for Horvat without even knowing the price tag. If he couldn't get Horvat signed, he'd look like the biggest loser on earth. That's why he had no choice but to cave in. It's pretty funny. I'm glad Horvat got paid and I'm glad he bent over Lou. I'm sure Lou is not gonna be very happy with Bo going forward. Bo completely took advantage of his boss lol.
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1 hour ago, ktcy2 said:
What did he say that was so bad? Nothing. He was asked about the playoff push. There has not been one playoff push since Covid. So……… of course it’s better than Vancouver. Why do fans read so much into a statement like that? Weird. Just weird
on a side note, horvat is 5 times the player Brock is. Don’t group them together.
The question was "how does this rank in terms of playoff pushes and fan excitement?"
The response.... "Its a lot better than Vancouver, I'll tell you that for free."
Lol probably so many classier ways to answer that question. Horvat is Mr Vanilla his entire time in Vancouver and responds in a way I've never heard him interviewed before.
I think the response shows that there was some hurt on his side as well as there was no need for that jab.
Most players would come up with the cliche responses like " excited to be a part of this group pushing for a playoff spot. Fans have been electric etc."
For whatever reason, he left Vancouver with a distaste in his mouth. He thought he was worth 8.5 and we prob thought he was worth 6.5 to 7.
I think we were right in our assessment but Horvat took it personally.
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33 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said:
So far the other guys taken around or after Lekkerimaki aren't particularly blowing it out of the water. Ostlund, Pickering etc. aren't superstars or anything. In that mid first to late first round pick you're not guaranteed anything.
Juolevi and Virtanen were different - they were top-10 picks and dreadful ones, because the guys taken DIRECTLY after them are all super-stars in this league. We've gone on about it time and time again but all teams have their whiffs. Two whiffs, but then we took Petey and Hughes when a lot of teams skipped on them so it evens out.
The problem is the Canucks whiffed during their tanking period and now are almost too good to tank so won't get another consecutive top-10 picks for a while.
Im actually ok with where we are at.
Had we taken Tkachuk instead of Juolevi and Nylander or Ehlers instead of Virtanen, there's a high chance we wouldn't have Petey or Hughes.
Those 2 guys are like 2nd overall picks in redrafts.
They are elite superstars. I'm choosing to see the glass as half full rather than half empty. Regret isn't going to change anything. I would rather build around Petey and Hughes rather than Nylander and Tkachuk.
I am now looking at a team where we are trying to figure out how to take all the talent in the middle 6 (Boeser, Garland, Hoglander, Podz, Kravy, PDG, Joshua) keep the best ones and reallocate assets to fill positions of need (3C and defense)
Nice that the team has options.
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12 hours ago, ktcy2 said:
No wonder we are so hated in Canada. We are not the center of the universe guys.
While you are talking about others not getting over Horvat, it also looks like other people's opinions of Canuck fans also live rent free in your head.
Horvat situation is comical. The guy was a traditional 50-60 PT guy.
He (similar to Brock) came to the team when we were low on talent and was desperate to hand the torch over from the Sedins. As a result, he became a Captain and a leader at a young age.
He signed for fair market value 5.5m cap hit when factoring his points production. When factoring is "on pace /pts per game" he is more like a 62 PT player so one could say he deserves a slight raise if he was to stay healthy. Factoring in the other intangibles like faceoffs, captaincy, decent (not great) 2 way play, 7m should be the max that the guy makes.
Just because we were idiots with Brock doesn't mean we have to be an idiot with Horvat.
We got a great haul for trading him and its been amusing to see him regress back to the mean and end his best season ever with 70 pts.
For us, we see a guy we called captain over value his self worth, left the team that drafted him, signed to a really undeserving deal while he had Lou's balls in a vice grip and is now playing like a 55 PT player which is who he is.
For him to take a shot at Vancouver in an interview didn't sit well with me. He's never had a contentious thing to say or do while he was here. If anything, we were angry that he didn't grab the bull by the horns or stick up for his teammates etc.
To take a pot shot at this organization while not even being able to back up his new signed salary is pretty funny.
When he left, I wished him the best. Signing a big contract comes with big expectations. If he can't pick up his play, the next 8 years are going to be rough. Luckily, he'll have a lot of money in the bank to help him feel better.
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6 hours ago, Baggins said:
Personally I think it really comes down to how confident they are in Hoglander. He's waiver elligible next season. If they do have confidence in him, Garland becomes expendable as I doubt they want to load up on smaller players. Beauvillier is the easy one to single out to move. Boeser certainly did improve his play down the stretch, but given his price I still wouldn't be opposed to moving him. I do expect Myers to be moved and any one of those three being moved opens more than 10m cap space. I doubt Mik gets moved.
Ultimately, as much as I like what he brings, if Garland won't be in the top six they may as well move him. He's too expensive for 3rd line. Moving Boeser or Beau does create better opportunity for him though. Boeser's play down the stretch has made him far more moveable now imo. Boeser has the highest potential production but is pretty average in all other aspects. Beau is the most physical of the three and the least expensive. He was on pare with Garland in production but also got 1st unit PP time and averaged more ice time per game. In the end I think you could toss a coin on who stays and who goes among the three. Garland isn't particularly physical but he is quite aggressive. He more than doubles both Beau and Brock in penalties drawn because he's so shifty and aggressive. There's a case to be made to keep, or trade, any of the the three. I think it may come down to the return (addressing a need) who goes among them. We do have some depth at forward and more in the pipeline. It's moving and replacing Myers that is the biggest need. I'm still hopeful Schenn re-signs here on a reasonable deal for two years. Buying time to develop younger guys. Moving Myers and one costly forward addresses the cap for next year. They could wait on the 3C to see if somebody steps up from within next season if they wanted to.
Can't agree with you more.
I'd move a few of Garland, AB, Boeser and Myers this summer depending on 2 factors.
1) who is fully committed and training their butts off?
2) who would give the best returns or didn't need sweeteners etc.
I'd keep the guys who are working hard this summer. That's the culture we are trying to build.
I have a feeling the hard working guys will be Garland and Boeser. If for example that's the case, I'd move AB
Play Garland and Boeser on 2nd line with Miller
Have hogz and Podz and Joshua battle for winger spots on the 3rd line and sign a bonafide 3c to control the play.
Dress the 4th line with whoever shows the best between Kravy, PDG, Dries, Aman and the leftover winger from 3rd line.
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16 minutes ago, Muttley said:
Garland and Beau are the ones I would attempt to trade as well. I thought I saw an improved Boeser towards the end of the season but I have to keep reminding myself
he was playing with Miller and was a staple on the first unit power play. Not sure if that translates in to a good all round player or an opportunistic one. Push comes to shout, I think I attempt to trade him. Sucks, cause I have always liked the guy. He just doesn't have all the necessary attributes to be an all round player. Could he still be? Not sure, but I think all trade possibilities should at leas be explored.
Im with you there
I want the team built around strong 2 way play.
Miller has turned it around. Maybe Boeser can as well?
Our 1-2 punch down the middle looks great.
We also have some players who are solid 2 way forwards like Mik, Podz
We need the others to step up now (Garland, AB, Boeser Hogz, Kuz)
At the same time, I feel like a fool falling for the same talk every season.
Unfinished business lol?
Brock gonna put up 30?
So far, it's all talk.
I say every year, this is the last chance for some of these guys. Well Boeser is on chance number 3
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12 minutes ago, N7Nucks said:
Hronek literally can't be extended til this summer. So I doubt they ironed out an actual idea of an extension. Yzerman also said he wasn't shopping Hronek, sure he could be lying. Not sure what benefit he gets from it. What exactly are you basing the "he is looking for Bo money" claim on? Myers on the open market got 6x6m. That was on the heels of a 31 point and 36 point season. If we can't extend an often injured sub 40 point, RFA around/below 7mil I dunno. In 5 seasons he's only play more than 70 games once and has never hit 40 points. He could have this year, could have should have walla, walla, bing, bang.
Agreed. Guy is an RFA. He is very good but not an elite talent like Hughes or Petey. If another team wants to poach him, we can either match or take the compensation. Anything reasonable will be matched.
They can't even try until July 2024. By then, I'm sure our brass will know exactly what Hronek is looking for. I would be very surprised if he's not locked up by then
I can't see a world in which we can't retain Hronek. A 7m-8.3m offer sheet might be the only way a team could take him as the contract is too high for Hronek but compensation would only be a 1st 2nd and a 3rd which is essentially what we gave up to get him. However my guess is that after the way the Carolina mtl fiasco played out, GMs will prob not do offer sheets.
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Best of Brock will be 65 pts. He has yet to even put up 60...
After the trade deadline, he had a really good month in march where he put up 14 pts in 15 games. He tailed off in April where he put up 3 pts in 7 games to end the year. I feel he could have put up more. He had some great chances and set up his teammates on a few really good chances.
At the end of the day, that's 17 pts in 22 games which is 0.77 pts/game or 63 game pt pace.
This is the stretch where Brock himself felt he was playing much better. So how bad was the rest of the season when he was grieving the loss of his dad?
Well, actually pretty similar as his season avg is 0.74 pts / game or 61 pt pace
Also we are talking "on pace". Brock has never played a full season as he is often injured. As a result, I feel confident when I say a really good number for him is 65 pts. That's shattering his previous best by 9 pts.
Is that worth 6.7?
Debatable...
If he was a physical power forward that can hit and play a strong 2 way game, then yes. 6.7 is worth it.
Is it worth it for a one dimensional forward who has decent size but isn't physical?
Brock's likeability factor always clouds my judgment
Combination of his good personality, timing (arriving when team was devoid of talent and putting up great numbers in rookie and sophomore year). and great work of his agent had produced earnings that far exceeds his play.
He should really be making AB or Connor Garland money but at 6.7m, you have to wonder whether we can have a player replace Brock and have similar production for much less money (Garland, Hogs, AB) OR we spend a bit more and upgrade at that position to roll 2 really strong top 2 lines while we shed capspace by trading Boeser, Garland and AB (16m) and Myers (6m)
Kuz Petey Mik
Hogz Miller UFA (8m)
Kravy UFA (4.5m) Podz
Joshua Aman PDG
Hughes UFA (7M)
OEL Hronek
Brisbois Burroughs
Demko
Probably need to upgrade at 3rd pairing D and move one of Brisbois or Burroughs to 7D.
Brock would have to be a reliable 2 way player that puts up 67 pts to be worth it.
He's yet to do that in his life and as a result, the current contract he is on is not looking too great.
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Who cares. We got Petey.
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Debating on going to the game. Would love to watch the boys live. Never been to an ahl game before but with the talent on the team like hogz, wolanin, hopefully Podz etc it would be fun to watch
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37 minutes ago, kilgore said:
I may be overlooking some things. Because I'm rooting for him. I'll admit that.
But we will agree to disagree. You could be right about a situation where Burroughs is playing up too high and gets caught. I would counter with the fact that that can happen to any D, and what Burroughs does is simply not be in the position for that to happen much. (playing too high, or choosing the wrong time to jump in) He is very conservative with his positioning. He may get in that kind of trouble when he doesn't read the play and gets caught. But that happens rarely, by my eyes, he just doesn't make those kinds of mistakes for that to be any kind of real problem for him. He is usually the first of the pairing to be back in his zone just because he reads the ice very well. Can you honestly say you've seen him burned like that much?
I am a big Burroughs fan and want him to come back next year as the 6D or 7th D.
Perhaps you are correct and I need to manage expectations.
I think if paired with a solid player, Burroughs could be a reliable 6D.
He can be like an Oscar Fantenburg from 2020 but with more bite and less size.
I loved how Oscar played as well. Nothing flashy and got the job done.
I see the same in Burroughs. I guess it's not realistic to expect top 4 did skillset in a bottom pairing guy. I feel like with better skating, he can go from a 6D or even 7D to a decent 5D where he becomes the anchor of a pairing. Perhaps that's what I'm rooting for so that we can pair a guy like Hirose with him and have Burroughs being that stable presence. I feel like he has it in him to do that
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Nils Hoglander | #21 | LW
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If that's the case, garly's gotta go.
I like Garland though...
Who would you keep between Garland, Boeser and AB?
I feel like 2 of the 3 need to go. Maybe even all 3...