TOMapleLaughs Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 It's true the post-cup Bruins have started being disciplined more. If this was 2011, Thornton may have received a comparative slap on the wrist. Like how Chara got nothing for throwing Pacioretty's face into a stantion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Pretty sure Thornton would've been suspended for the entire season and playoffs if he played for the Canucks. Who? Shawd Thortuzzi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Who? Shawd Thortuzzi? Todd Bertuzzi suspension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Todd Bertuzzi suspension? Tongue in cheek... They aren't really comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 Tongue in cheek... They aren't really comparable. Not sure if serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 I memory serves, we've been 'screwed' since the days of Roger waving the towel around on the stick. It is our God-given right as Canucks fans to think we're being persecuted. If you don't understand that, well, you're not a real Canucks fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I think a lack of a Stanley Cup is starting to scramble some people's brains. Can you imagine the logistics of trying to rig the entire league to pick and choose a winner ahead of time? The amount of people that would have to be involved and have everything fall in place to achieve something at this level is near impossible, not to mention that the staggering amount of people involved would somehow have to keep their mouths shut. I can't see the NHL risking multiple fraud charges and class action lawsuits to screw over Canadian teams from winning the Stanley Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Pfft... Logistics... It's not all that difficult to imagine, really. A ton of people in baseball, throughout all ranks, knew about it when that rampant PED abuse happened. As for the NHL being rigged or having teams/players being engaged in PED abuse, you turn a blind eye when it helps you out, and those not in the loop just don't need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Pfft... Logistics... It's not all that difficult to imagine, really. A ton of people in baseball, throughout all ranks, knew about it when that rampant PED abuse happened. As for the NHL being rigged or having teams/players being engaged in PED abuse, you turn a blind eye when it helps you out, and those not in the loop just don't need to know. Well, the PED issue finally did come out into the general public, but you can't even compare that. Like you said it was the MLB turning a blind eye, it wasn't them completely changing the outcome of the entire league themselves like you seem to think the NHL is doing. Completely different situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 The MLB needed to recover financially from their labour issues. Say... What has the NHL comparatively endured in recent years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 The MLB needed to recover financially from their labour issues. Say... What has the NHL comparatively endured in recent years? I told you, the PED issue is different than completely determining and controlling the outcome of your playoffs, not even a close comparison. But I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. You are emotionally invested in a team that has continuously has failed to live up to high expectations for a very long time. For that reason you are thinking emotionally rather than logically. The league is not rigged to the degree you want to believe. The risks for the NHL far exceed the benefits. The Canucks are perennial losers and that's the fact of the matter. Hopefully for your sake soon the Canucks can win the cup so you can give your head a bit of a shake and realize how comical you theories are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 So we are arguing over the degree of 'rigging' not whether it happens or not? I chose to ignore the rigging reality so that I continue watching the Canucks. Reality returns in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 This thread refers to all sorts of rigging, including series that tilted the Canucks' way, so no, this isn't about an emotional investment in the Canucks. Every pro sport is rigged on way or another. To think otherwise is naive. While baseball needed a ridiculous homerun derby to regain it's cashflow, PED's are used by the NHL to boost the performance levels of young teams' players that grow miraculous amounts of weight in a short amount of time and still maintain speed and endurance. Players on cup winning teams have been on HGH, roids, you name it. It's quite obvious. It explains the bizarrely aggressive behavior, the huge dilated pupils at times, the insane levels of energy, and of course the unnatural muscle growth. Those players usually shrink, get less pumped-up, etc. when they are either traded or their team has already won the cup and is on the decline. The 'chosen' teams do it, have done it, get away with it, and will likely continue doing it. The teams i am talking about are important in boosting the NHL's popularity in markets down south and therefore increase cashflow. This is just one part of the rigging that's going on in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 There are no so called 'chosen' teams that are allowed to provide any such thing to players. Not all teams are going to benefit from what you believe is happening, and if any of those other teams had even a shred of inclination of this was going on the lawyers would be swarming in New York in a pretty timely manner. The league will not risk lawsuits to favour any player or team in any way. Would it be in the league's best interest if certain teams were more successful? Of course but from a business perspective I can't see them interfering with the standings, way too risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Respectfully disagree, as the evidence is there if you'd just care to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Respectfully disagree, as the evidence is there if you'd just care to look. The same thing can be said about Santa Clause. Your theory has been debunked over and over throughout this thread, yet you still keep rambling on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Respectfully disagree, as the evidence is there if you'd just care to look. I will also respectfully disagree until you can back up your "evidence" a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 The same thing can be said about Santa Clause. Your theory has been debunked over and over throughout this thread, yet you still keep rambling on. +1 Priceless. And his theory isn't exactly debunked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 Your theory has been debunked over and over throughout this thread, yet you still keep rambling on. No it hasn't. Unless closing your eyes and your ears and going 'la-la-la-la, everything is just fine thanks very much' counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 I will also respectfully disagree until you can back up your "evidence" a little more. Regarding PED abuse, there are plenty of alligations from Laraque on various unnamed players. OV was implicated as well, but that was white-washed and brushed aside. But really, you just have to open your eyes to see how players are alluvasudden full of ridiculous energy and, well, rage. The Canucks have been benefactors from PED abuse as well btw. Quite obvious that Todd Bertuzzi's heyday was fueled by PED's. Laraque elluded to that as well by talking about those who don't perform well during Olympic years. 2005-06 was the beginning of Todd's decline, just before he was dumped out of here, and he has been a shadow of his former self ever since. Roids? 90pt tremendous power forward. No roids? 40pt vacant shell. Why? Well, the Canucks at the time desperately needed the WCE to perform at an elite level 30mins a night, or they were probably going to be forced to move down south during the NHL's Canadian dollar crisis. That is a fact - Brian Burke said a phonecall was all it would take, and buh-bye Canucks. No, obviously I am not crying boo-hoo-hoo about the Canucks in particular. We have been part of it at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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