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  1. Why always the focus on Alberta, Why not look in your own back yard? Vancouver protesters rally against masks https://globalnews.ca/news/7195268/coronavirus-vancouver-anti-mask-rally/ My favourite part “I’m not anti-mask, I wear a mask 24/7, it’s called an immune system.” I mean how can you argue with such strong logic. lol
  2. My favourite part "Science is a method, not a body of facts" Seems to me like it's often presented as facts. Especially when it's often followed up with an action based on those findings. Current results are showing it helps. https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study Do you not see the irony. I claim fauci makes a bold claim about something too earlier and the replies are....there was so much unknown about it at that time. Trump say something....and it's orange man bad. Might want to double check on that. https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/apr/24/context-what-donald-trump-said-about-disinfectant-/ See this is exact what i'm talking about..it's almost as if some people are so naive to see it. You think trump is the one making this political yet your opinion is based off a media outlet false reports, a media outlet with a clear agenda of this a political debate. Yes they did and they put together a task force towards it. https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/covid19/Taskforce Report.pdf I agree, this virus is something to take seriously, all i'm trying to point out is that the left and the right flip flops on their stance of this virus. Not because it wasn't a potential threat but because both sides were trying to use it as political ammunition for the nov election. From the left earlier on and the right currently. Lives are lost at the cost of votes.
  3. The US if 330 million people. Not sure what you are expecting. If Obama was still president do you think that people wouldn't be protesting? BLM and the restrictions of covid? Each state has there own governors and people in charge to decide what best for there population. Yes just like Canada, maybe you don't noticing but things were handeling much different in BC, than in Alberta or Ontario or Quebec. I didn't know the covid virus cared about the cause...As long as the cause is "just" I guess you are free from catching it..haha..... and that's where my discussing with you ends....talk about a major facepalm.....
  4. And again, publicly stating it's nothing to worry when it's still unknown is exactly the same thing people criticize DT over. Same things happened with hydroxychloroquine and how recent results show that it does actually help with covid. Funny that quickly gets swept under the rug. Like they followed with all the protest across the country? Florida also had a 3 phased approach. It's funny because i was thinking the same thing about people putting the blame solely on Trump. Again the left from the start was deeming this to not be a serious matter. I can post dozens of articles from the lest claiming just that. And any action trump did was immediately written off as not needed and or a racist fear mongering attempt. Had the left not been so focussed on making this a political standpoint to attempt at stirring up anger against Trump and actually focussed on the threat of covid. Thousands of lives could have been saved. It wasn't until the cases skyrocketed and where the mantra changed. The same people who cried trump was taking measure to extreme are the same people crying that he didn't do enough. If that doesn't scream hypocrisy I don't know what else does. USA is the one place in the world that can take a serious pandemic and turn it into a political talking point.
  5. No it didn't and again, not shocked seeing the covid cases spike shortly after. Yet we saw countless politicians from the left encourage people to go out and exercise their right to protest. Probably not the best advice to give when we were in the midst of a highly contagious pandemic. No trump surely didn't help either, but If it was mostly trumps fault you'd likely see the largest affected cases in red states. Sure but that's not trumps fault. The issues have been around long before he was president. Biden's been in politics for 40 years, yet he's the one going to solve the issue now. Where was he as vice president, BLM riots were still happening during that time as well. But yes back to the point. I'm not trying to defend trump and say he hasn't hurt the situation because he clearly has. I just think there is major fault across the board and it's not majorly on trump. instead of the country coming together against the same common enemy (covid) it has become a political tactic from both sides. Again is starts back in Feb when Trump put the travel ban in place from china and that was deemed racist and not needed. Between Feb-April the left's narrative was Trump is making covid sound worse than it is and it's nothing to fear. Then the flip happened, not businesses on the right are trying to claim the same thing. it's a perfect example of the type of mess USA is.
  6. Well first of all he's a non practicing doctor not a scientist. Second of all, if he didn't know for certain he shouldn't have made such a bold claim. Telling people that masks have no purpose in a pandemic only strengthens those nut jobs validation. People flip flopping on the left is as bad as the right and it needs to be called out on both sides. To blame Trump purely on covid when the left was calling him a racist for the travel ban in march, telling people to go out side, enjoy china town, early april and even recently to exercise your right to protest in large crowds. Are we shocked that covid cases have sky rocketed again after all the riots? But no, lets put that blame on the churches and people going to beaches. I mean that hypocrisy going on right now is absurd. It's no wonder the US is the worse at handling covid. And yes trump is only half to blame for that.
  7. haha Fauci, the guy who a few months ago, made the claim and I quote. "There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."
  8. There’s so many other variables at play. Like travel amongst immigrant who reside in the country, like age median age and geographical of those ages like how In Norway the regional differences in the overall age level are clearly visible, with the far north and the far south characterised by a lower relative number of old age persons compared to the regions in between. distance between sparsely populated areas. and City sizes. Stockholm is 2.25x the size Oslo (Norway’s largest city) and Helsinki (Finland’s largest city). Just because they are neighbors and have similar life styles doesn’t mean they are great comparables. Canada and US for example deployed very similar strategy’s, we are the closet comparable yet they have had completely different outcomes. The point I was making is a could cherry pick plenty of other examples. Even in Canada between the provinces we have such variation. because there are and most of them are just common sense. What claiming they are neighbors is the dumbed down version of cherry picking numbers. One would think that is really only takes two seconds at The Who chart you posted to see a wide variation. Optimizing about countries economic recovery countries like Canada are amongst the lowest for people stating the will spend up to 40% less post covid where Sweden, next to japan is one of the highest. it wasn’t a govt study and considering the company I consult with plays a major part in Canadian consumer spend I would trust the sources I have as our business and strategy depends on it. this isn’t govt doing research. This is Deloitte doing the research and the govt working with us on strategies based on that research. In this thread? Or another covid one id listed the areas that are predicting the increases based on the call service lines along with the suicides they have already happened in March. I never claimed they were making predictions off viruses 100 years ago. They were based on data in the last 6 years.
  9. There are plenty, even in this very thread people are complaining about it. Leafs fans tend to thing they are on top of the world and unstoppable...Until the first round of playoffs hits
  10. I honestly can say I haven’t seen any GOT. I was going to wait till it was over and then power through it marathon style. But then everyone said the ending ruined the whole show and not to bother haha so I decided to spend my time else where.
  11. Two scenarios. Both involve death. One puts us in a worse outlook when everything is over. The other puts us in a better outlook. If your odds are set up to lose at least focus on area with a glimmer of hope. Again I think people might be confused in what I’m stating. I’m not saying we did the wrong thing originally. I think the lockdown was good considering the unknown. Now that we have more understanding I’m saying it’s time to start opening up again. Like we are doing. My debate is with the group that thinks things need to remained closed longer. And disagrees with the govt phased plan approach that has been implemented.
  12. Does one death hold less value? There is DIRECT correlation with unemployment rate and suicides. Causation in one results causation in the other. why is a covid death more valuable than a suicide death. Incase people still don’t understand the point. It’s a double edge sword. Prevention of one results in the loss in the other.