billabong Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 to nj: vey to van: 3rd pick 2016 (det) vey has over stayed his welcome and its time to manage your losses before his value gets too low to salvage the 2nd pick it costed to acquire him. nj could use some young forwards like us and unlike here he has a chance to play RW in the top 9 where he could get his career off the mat to min: prust to van: 3rd pick 2017 min went from clutterbuck to cooke to...prust. they have no 4th line toughness and prust fills that role to nsh: vrbata to van: 1st pick 2016 nsh needs some goal scoring and they need to make the playoffs. vrbata fills a 2nd line scoring need that they lack to la: hamhuis to van: 1st pick 2017 hamhuis has a ntc and i doubt he'll wanna leave his hometown for a team not competing for a stanley cup and la has just under 5 million in capspace so i see them as the best suitor. obviously we would all rather have a 2016 1st rounder for hammer but la dealt that away for sekera at last years trade deadline. next years line up sedin-sedin-virtanen baerschi-horvat-burrows gaunce-sutter-hansen higgins-mccann-dorsett kenins-shinkaruk edler-tanev sbisa-weber hutton-corrado biega we have a youthful forward line up but a shaky blueline so could use an improve on the right side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Aside from Vey, I think we can get more for each of those players at the deadline. Just look at what Vermette got, and Vrbata/Hamhuis have more value than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 to nj: vey to van: 3rd pick 2016 (det) vey has over stayed his welcome and its time to manage your losses before his value gets too low to salvage the 2nd pick it costed to acquire him. nj could use some young forwards like us and unlike here he has a chance to play RW in the top 9 where he could get his career off the mat to min: prust to van: 3rd pick 2017 min went from clutterbuck to cooke to...prust. they have no 4th line toughness and prust fills that role to nsh: vrbata to van: 1st pick 2016 nsh needs some goal scoring and they need to make the playoffs. vrbata fills a 2nd line scoring need that they lack to la: hamhuis to van: 1st pick 2017 hamhuis has a ntc and i doubt he'll wanna leave his hometown for a team not competing for a stanley cup and la has just under 5 million in capspace so i see them as the best suitor. obviously we would all rather have a 2016 1st rounder for hammer but la dealt that away for sekera at last years trade deadline. next years line up sedin-sedin-virtanen baerschi-horvat-burrows gaunce-sutter-hansen higgins-mccann-dorsett kenins-shinkaruk edler-tanev sbisa-weber hutton-corrado biega we have a youthful forward line up but a shaky blueline so could use an improve on the right side I hope we would try to add someone through FA... But I can see hamhuis and vrbata getting a little more, or is this more of a worst case scenario (the 2 having weak years)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 I hope we would try to add someone through FA... But I can see hamhuis and vrbata getting a little more, or is this more of a worst case scenario (the 2 having weak years)? It's hard to say their worth right now but I'd say this would be a safe bet/generic value for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 From a Canucks perspective, I'd do the first 3 now if the other teams would go for it. I don't think losing Vey would make the team noticeably worse. Losing Prust would be hard on Dorsett this season but I'm not optimistic about Prust's level of play (I hope I'm wrong.) It's close whether to deal him at this time. Vrbata is a strange situation. He may do fine with Horvat and Baertschi, but I'm worried his production could drop and his value with it. For that reason if trading him now brings a 1st, I'd take it and hope that Baertschi-Horvat-Virtanen works out and that the growing pains and inevitable mistakes don't send WD to the hospital with a heart attack. Imo the Canucks' defence is strong enough to trade Hamhuis for a pick at this time. Weber did ok with Hamhuis last season but he and Sbisa together (as in the op's lineup's 2nd pairing above) was a trainwreck. It seems to me that Benning's stated position, not signing him yet but waiting to see how things go (which I think covers things like where the salary cap goes and the level of play of Hamhuis and others) makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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