Breast feeding in public

[ronthecivil]

If a man can be shirtless in a public area so can a woman. It's legal in Vancouver for women to walk around shirtless so the indecency factor can be thrown out the window right at that.

Secondly and most importantly, it is a natural and essential thing for a woman to breastfeed her infant when the infant needs food.

To say that women need to 'cover it all up' or be in a private area in order to breastfeed is absurd and in all reality is suppressive to her rights can also be suppressive to the babies needs.

If you dont like it then dont stare. (which you shouldnt be doing anyway) We live in a beautiful city and there are far more things to focus your attention on.

As for the argument that it's not something for younger audiences....I say we need to stop making natural acts like breastfeeding so taboo and sheltering youth from the realities behind it. By hiding it from them and not educating them early on the subject they create their own conclusions which are almost always incorrect and inappropriate.

Seriously, some people really need to grow the f*** up.

[Magikal]

Nothing is more beautiful than a baby bonding with it's mother while feeding, and it's not like the mountains won't be there tommorrow. If your on some bus or in some store, what else you gonna look at, the ads on the bus or the cheesy plastic models in the store?

How hypocritical is it that we can't tell you where to feed your kids but you can tell me where my eye's should go? Avert my gaze? What if your right in front of me, do I have to look unconfortably at the floor when straight ahead is the most interesting thing going on?

[Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw]

Nothing is more beautiful than a baby bonding with it's mother while feeding, and it's not like the mountains won't be there tommorrow. If your on some bus or in some store, what else you gonna look at, the ads on the bus or the cheesy plastic models in the store?

How hypocritical is it that we can't tell you where to feed your kids but you can tell me where my eye's should go? Avert my gaze? What if your right in front of me, do I have to look unconfortably at the floor when straight ahead is the most interesting thing going on?

[Sharpshooter]

Nothing is more beautiful than a baby bonding with it's mother while feeding, and it's not like the mountains won't be there tommorrow. If your on some bus or in some store, what else you gonna look at, the ads on the bus or the cheesy plastic models in the store?

How hypocritical is it that we can't tell you where to feed your kids but you can tell me where my eye's should go? Avert my gaze? What if your right in front of me, do I have to look unconfortably at the floor when straight ahead is the most interesting thing going on?

[Magikal]

If you're on the bus or somewhere else in public and you see a couple kissing or hugging, do you stare at them? When you see a little girl playing at the beach in a swimsuit, do you stare? When you see a guy with speedos on, do you stare?

Well, you can if you want to, because what they're doing isn't illegal and staring isn't illegal...so if you get your rocks off that way...keep staring. I assure you...you won't be staring for long....at least not with a blackeye. That will be the day you finally get your lesson in what's ok to stare at and what's not ok to stare at...since you seem not to know. Hey, some kids just need to learn that the stove is hit by touching it...don't worry, next time a woman feeds her kid...just stare and everything will be alright...i promise.

And you keep on making your 'right to stare' argument....

[ronthecivil]

Except in BC nursing mothers have the right to breastfeed their children in a public area, and it is discriminatory to ask them to cover up or breastfeed somewhere else.

[thehun]

people who say they should cover up or no then should never come over to Europe and hope to go to the beaches. It is perfectly normal to be topless or completely nude on the beach. Someone called the people that think they should cover up squares. He was spot on. Funny how in the U.S. they are so against nudity yet it has one of the biggest porn industries. Talk about your double standards.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

voted

Yes but they should cover up..

don't mind..it

[Magikal]

What I would like to know is what everyone ehre who votes yes but the should cover up means by cover up? Should the infant have its head shoved under the shirt? thats ridiculous, especially on hot summer days. If a single breast is out and the child is feeding you can really see much now can you? Maybe they should be using car tarps? Would that make CDC more comfortable with nature?

[Sharpshooter]

voted

Yes but they should cover up..

don't mind..it

[Hookman]

Why is a fat man with man boobs allowed to walk around the beach without a shirt while a female cannot even breast feed her kid in public when the baby is covering the breast in a sense they are almost similar!

[ronthecivil]

If you're on the bus or somewhere else in public and you see a couple kissing or hugging, do you stare at them? When you see a little girl playing at the beach in a swimsuit, do you stare? When you see a guy with speedos on, do you stare?

Well, you can if you want to, because what they're doing isn't illegal and staring isn't illegal...so if you get your rocks off that way...keep staring. I assure you...you won't be staring for long....at least not with a blackeye. That will be the day you finally get your lesson in what's ok to stare at and what's not ok to stare at...since you seem not to know. Hey, some kids just need to learn that the stove is hot by touching it...don't worry, next time a woman feeds her kid...just stare and everything will be alright...i promise.

And you keep on making your 'right to stare' argument....

[ronthecivil]

What I would like to know is what everyone ehre who votes yes but the should cover up means by cover up? Should the infant have its head shoved under the shirt? thats ridiculous, especially on hot summer days. If a single breast is out and the child is feeding you can really see much now can you? Maybe they should be using car tarps? Would that make CDC more comfortable with nature?

[ronthecivil]

Why is a fat man with man boobs allowed to walk around the beach without a shirt while a female cannot even breast feed her kid in public when the baby is covering the breast in a sense they are almost similar!

[:D]

Apparently they also don't like it when you walk up and call next

[Magikal]

Hey, speak big internet tough guy, I ain't no pushover. Someone going for you is great. Either you kick their donkey in protection, or you loose the fight and you can still get retribution for your trying to tell me what to do with an assault charge. Or both. Sometimes an donkey kicking ain't enough after all.

I ain't no fan of pda's unless it's two chicks going at it (who wouldn't stare at that?) then I would probably want to look away, it's not something I want to see. And nope, I don't stare at little kids at the beach unless they're doing something odd, and I certainly don't stare at a speedo since that's not something I want to see either.

What's hilarious is that odds are someone arguing for discretion would probably use it himself and perhaps I might just be being the devil's advocate here but my point is just because you have a right to do something doesn't mean you should and perhaps we should work on being a little discrete as opposed to rude and if I can't look in a certain direction at least do me a favour and minimise the area I need to not look at.

And while were at it, if the bus driver says cover up simply respond with get bent and if a store tells you to go into a room tell 'em fine I will take my business elsewhere instead of sucking my taxpayer dollars on a freaking tribunal. Last I checked nursing mom's are hardly pariah's feeling societies oppression, in fact, typically people tend to be nice and offer them seats and help getting stuff if they need it.

[Magikal]

It's not rocket science. You might not suceed in being completely discreet, much like people might not suceed in not looking. I think so long as all parties at least TRY to be discreet then there's probably not going to be a problem.

Of course, it's your right to just go topless and hand a kid off each one. Sometimes you have to wonder how much an effort to be discreet these women were up to to actually get a response, typically it's hard to notice unless you decided to look at the kid's head specifically.

[ronthecivil]

I dont think that the user is saying he is personally going to come find you and punch you out but rather that you are likely to have someone take a swing or two if you made the woman feel uncomfortable. I know if I was on the bus and someone was staring at a woman who was breastfeeding and it made her uncomfortable id speak up, and due to my anger and personality id get physical quite fast. Also I would have the support of the majority around me, i'll put money on that.

The problem with your argument is that you are victimizing a person over this "hey if she can do it in public I can stare" theory. The way you deliver your argument makes you come across to me like a bully and a predator who is willing to jump at any chance to take advantage of this situation and twist it to exploit it for some cheap perverted thrills. Now I am not saying that is the type of person you are. I don't know you from a hole in the wall and I honestly think that you aren't likely to be that kind of person. But in this thread it is how you are coming across....at least to me. But like I said, I dont know you at all and you probably have more of a solid head on your shoulders than to be that kind of person.

[Sharpshooter]

Hey, speak big internet tough guy, I ain't no pushover. Someone going for you is great. Either you kick their donkey in protection, or you loose the fight and you can still get retribution for your trying to tell me what to do with an assault charge. Or both. Sometimes an donkey kicking ain't enough after all.

I ain't no fan of pda's unless it's two chicks going at it (who wouldn't stare at that?) then I would probably want to look away, it's not something I want to see. And nope, I don't stare at little kids at the beach unless they're doing something odd, and I certainly don't stare at a speedo since that's not something I want to see either.

What's hilarious is that odds are someone arguing for discretion would probably use it himself and perhaps I might just be being the devil's advocate here but my point is just because you have a right to do something doesn't mean you should and perhaps we should work on being a little discrete as opposed to rude and if I can't look in a certain direction at least do me a favour and minimise the area I need to not look at.

And while were at it, if the bus driver says cover up simply respond with get bent and if a store tells you to go into a room tell 'em fine I will take my business elsewhere instead of sucking my taxpayer dollars on a freaking tribunal. Last I checked nursing mom's are hardly pariah's feeling societies oppression, in fact, typically people tend to be nice and offer them seats and help getting stuff if they need it.

[ronthecivil]

If its not rocket science than please explain how they can go about "covering up". What is your solution ron? i dont think there are any women walking down the street topless shaking their chest while two small children hang on by the mouth for dear life. there isnt anyone breastfeeding and moving within a few inches of a persons face to make them uncomfortable. So what are they doing that is so unacceptable that they need to cover up? And once again, give examples for covering up.