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#1 TheSteamer

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

Given the obvious 'management' of games. . .

Given the completely inconsistent officiating that ALWAYS seems to favour keeping games close and ... teams in it. . .

Given the favouritism shown to small market american teams. . .

Given the completely amorphus standards. . .

Given that Shanahan is a complete joke. . .

Given that all the old referees have been run out of the game. . .

Is there any other conclusion than the NHL is now the WWF?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:27 PM

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:29 PM

If the NHL was "fixed" there would be no chance of the Pens getting swept in the first round. The NHL would get their golden boy to the cup every year if they were fixing things.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

For it to be fixed properly, you'd need to have men smarter than Bettman and Campbell in charge...I'm just assuming the cluster... of a season is based on incompetance of all league officials

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:40 PM

This is what politicians do too; they blame it on incompetence when it is actually carefully crafted. I just don't believe that the integrity of the game can stand up to billions of dollars in capitalist profits. No billion dollar capitalist organization leaves anything to chance. It is all about containing risk and maximizing return.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:41 PM

It's not fixed, just poorly run. Honor and integrity was sold out for the mighty $$

I personally don't even put that much blame on the refs considering they are constantly told to do things different back and forth from week to week. One day it's call the game strict and maintain control. The next day it's let the players play and don't dictate the game. Then we have Shanaban literally pulling numbers out of a hat to determine suspension length which is obviously giving the players mixed signals because it isn't just 1 playoff series getting out of control it's almost every series.

It's chaotic. Though I admit I am still enjoying the games.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:02 PM

wow i've never heard this theory before!

no, i don't think the NHL is rigged.

Is there any other conclusion than the NHL is now the WWF?


yes, there is. you have homer glasses on. refs are inconsistent in every sport. have you watched any other sports?

soccer- what's a foul? was that a yellow or red card? penalty kick? suspension? super inconsistent

baseball- strike zone? ejection from the game? suspension? balk? super inconsistent

football- pass interference? roughing the passer? unnecessary roughness? contact to the head? suspensions? super inconsistent

basketball- hello, FOULS? technical? suspension? most inconsistent calling ever


hockey is a human sport. mistakes are made. until you have statistics that back up the claim that the reffing "favour keeping games close" then i think you can't just claim it's fixed. (the imaginary stats btw might have something to do with the fact that teams that are ahead tend to play a lot of defense and most penalties are defensive ones)

all of your evidence is either your opinion (which obviously is a little bit skewed) or factually unverified.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:03 PM

For it to be fixed properly, you'd need to have men smarter than Bettman and Campbell in charge...I'm just assuming the clusterf*** of a season is based on incompetance of all league officials

exactly that campbell was'nt smart enough to not get caught, as why he was quietly shuffled. he was busted, via his emails to officials , regarding his son. so to say the game is'nt swayed think again. remember shortly after the last lockout, what brendan morrison said? (hockey is no longer a sport, it's entertainment)

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:08 PM

all of your evidence is either your opinion (which obviously is a little bit skewed) or factually unverified.


Nothing 'homer' about it, Chief. It has absolutley nothing to do with the Canucks and everything to do with the league managing the competitve flow of games in an effort to keep TV audiences tuned in, and widely distributed. I don't believe the players are intentionally scoring/missing, but I do believe there is a code of silence tied to the payers' revenue sharing deal which causes them, for the most part, to turn a blind eye to the obvious interventions of NHL head office.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:15 PM

there is a code of silence tied to the payers' revenue sharing deal which causes them, for the most part, to turn a blind eye to the obvious interventions of NHL head office.


codes of silences don't tend to work especially with so many people involved. besides, every player has a huge interest in winning because that greatly affects their contracts.

what obvious interventions of the NHL head office do you speak of? if they want games to be close, why are there so many blowouts? why didn't they call a penalty on LA yesterday to make it go to OT? why were 4 of 7 games of the SCF last year blowouts? why did philly keep getting power plays yesterday when they were winning, instead of letting the penguins a chance to get back in to the game and the series?
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:26 PM

codes of silences don't tend to work especially with so many people involved. besides, every player has a huge interest in winning because that greatly affects their contracts.

what obvious interventions of the NHL head office do you speak of? if they want games to be close, why are there so many blowouts? why didn't they call a penalty on LA yesterday to make it go to OT? why were 4 of 7 games of the SCF last year blowouts? why did philly keep getting power plays yesterday when they were winning, instead of letting the penguins a chance to get back in to the game and the series?


Pittsburgh has its Cup.
LA needs to move on.
Boston was supposed to win.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:31 PM

I don't think it is fixed.

It is heavily favored towards specific teams in order to maximize profits South of the border.

oh wait...

this sounds familiar.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:34 PM

Pittsburgh has its Cup.
LA needs to move on.
Boston was supposed to win.


but everyone wants to keep watching this series! think of the TV ratings, let alone all the tickets that would be purchased at absurd prices.

why does L.A. need to move on now? why not prolong the series? it would help the ratings, and get everyone in LA more excited.

If boston was supposed to win, why did they receive more penalties than the canucks? why wasn't burrows suspended?

seriously i just don't think it adds up to a conspiracy.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:13 PM

It comes down to inconsistency from the refs. They should not have the power to swing momentum in games with phantom calls and non-calls.

And I'm not saying this only happens to the Canucks because it is a league wide epidemic

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:16 PM

Nah, it's just broken.
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It bugs me when people pull out the gold medal for an example... Luongo only had to outplay Brodeur.


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:17 PM

but everyone wants to keep watching this series! think of the TV ratings, let alone all the tickets that would be purchased at absurd prices.

why does L.A. need to move on now? why not prolong the series? it would help the ratings, and get everyone in LA more excited.

If boston was supposed to win, why did they receive more penalties than the canucks? why wasn't burrows suspended?

seriously i just don't think it adds up to a conspiracy.

If cold cocking a guy twice and then pummeling him on the ice is worth 1 game, how many games is an unverified nibble on the gloves worth?
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:35 PM

If cold cocking a guy twice and then pummeling him on the ice is worth 1 game, how many games is an unverified nibble on the gloves worth?


different years, but i get your point.
2 games seems to be the norm for biting.

http://www.sportsnet...1/07/ruutu_nhl/

edit: or one, which is what marc savard got

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 06:04 PM

Is The Nhl 'fixed' ?

There are too many variables to control too produce an outcome that you might want. But I believe that a team could be blacklisted, or as the play-offs evolve, you could give certain teams a helping hand.

For example........Ever since Bettman blocked the sale of Phoenix to Balsillie,Ive noticed a lot of game management in close games with Phoenix. And Im not talkin just with Vancouver, every team. They did go from cellar dwellar of ten years or so to regular play-off apperences in that very year. Can you imagine if after blocking that sale for them to continue too dwell at the bottom of the league......We're are talkin Bettman here.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:49 PM

If the NHL was "fixed" there would be no chance of the Pens getting swept in the first round. The NHL would get their golden boy to the cup every year if they were fixing things.


Boston are there golden boys...so...yay

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:55 PM

The NHL, for the past 10-15 years has operated despite itself, not because of itself.

The board of governers, NHLPA, and League officials will not be satisfied until they completely 'Americanize' this game for the sake of weak-market teams with large TV contracts.

Every year that goes by, every change the NHL makes, every minor (or major in some cases) tweak the board of governers/owners make to 'Americanize' the game, I become less of a fan.

The sad part is that I've realized and come to terms with the fact that the league I've loved for my entire life couldn't care one bit if they lose me as a fan if they gain 2 other fringe fans in some weak-market American city.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:09 PM

Maybe a bit,but I don't think so.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

Boston are there golden boys...so...yay


I'm going with Crosby being the Golden boy. Face of the NHL, best player in the world, League apologizes for a ref missing a call changed the momentum against the Pens.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:51 PM

no... and don't ask me to "support" or "back it up," because this topic has been brought up every year for longer than I've been a member here, and I've grown tired of pointing out the same stuff over and over every year.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:26 PM

maybe not fixed but -- it seems there are bounties out there :(

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:28 AM

There's no way it's fixed. With all the leaks and unnamed sources for the leaks, we would have heard by now!

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:04 AM

I don't think Bettman wants a specific team to win...so long as it's an American team that wins it. He wants to grow the market in USA. He doesn't have to worry about Canada cuz hockey is like our national sport.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:17 AM

Is The Nhl 'fixed' ?

There are too many variables to control too produce an outcome that you might want. But I believe that a team could be blacklisted, or as the play-offs evolve, you could give certain teams a helping hand.

For example........Ever since Bettman blocked the sale of Phoenix to Balsillie,Ive noticed a lot of game management in close games with Phoenix. And Im not talkin just with Vancouver, every team. They did go from cellar dwellar of ten years or so to regular play-off apperences in that very year. Can you imagine if after blocking that sale for them to continue too dwell at the bottom of the league......We're are talkin Bettman here.


If anything I would think that since the 29 other clubs effectively own and pay to operate the Coyotes I would think it would create all kinds of anger amongst owners if the Coyotes were receiving favourable treatment.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:16 PM

Fixed? No. Biased? Yes.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:56 PM

If the NHL was "fixed" there would be no chance of the Pens getting swept in the first round. The NHL would get their golden boy to the cup every year if they were fixing things.


This - and also the shanahan thing okay maybe, but on ice officiating isn't fixed.




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