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#121 dontstresskes

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:25 AM

I love Lu?

But people here need to have someone to dump on, so he's the flavour of the moment.

Other players have been subjected to the same fate: Ballard, Rome, Raymond, Bieksa

Can't please all the people.


so true!

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:25 AM

could be worse..

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:18 AM

As a non Vancouver fan (from Toronto) with no devotion to either goalie, I would say that Luongo's nervous playstyle and demeanor doesn't do him any favors but he is an elite goaltender and you guys are really blessed with great depth at the most important position on the ice.

Just basing my opinion on this series, both 'tenders have played brilliantly and there hasn't been much to choose between them.

The change was made as the team was getting plain outworked in the first two games and something had to be done to mix it up but there certainly shouldn't be any hate on Luongo that's for sure.

Good luck next game guys!

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:16 AM

I just get nervous when there are bodies in front and luo is in goal. Schneids, not so much. I do think Schneids is better, but luo is also a proven performer. You can't go wrong with 2 mastadons!!

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:44 AM

As a Canadian Luo has solidified his name in Canadian hockey lore.

Luo was invincible.Along came the groin injury but Gillis did not realise the severity of it at the time and gave THE contract just after.

Luo has been forced to play a new style with Melanson ,with his original game no longer effective with the injury.

Luo was the man here for years and if he stays,he will now have to accept the sharing of the top spot.

I don't think that will happen for many reasons,certainly economically speaking.

In the beginning Luo;s personality reflected his play and both were larger than life.

For the years that followed he was never the same but he gave the team all he could.

His legacy is assured in Canada and in Vancouver.

We will never know how it would have turned out without the groin injury but he will leave the team a much different person than when he arrived and for me ,this Luo is more of a man and less of a hockey icon.

There is life beyond hockey and he has had to learn that the hard way,but learn he has.Good luck,Luo.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:48 AM

I love Lu, but if you told me a banana would win us the Cup in net I would say "BANANA AHOY!!!!!" And in this case Schneids is a banana.


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Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:17 AM

1. To answer your "simple" question I would say I know as much as you, but then you'll reply to me stating how you have played goal and coached goal and blah blah blah unconfirmable BS. I won't claim I've ever played goal, but I've watched a ton of hockey and I understand statistics. Schneider's play is more consistent and his stats are better, I'm sure you have some fantastic argument against that too I'd love to hear it and then easily refute it. Usually the next argument will be Schneider isn't under the pressure Luongo is, well guess what he played in the elimination game and was lights-out. Next it will be the defence plays better in front of Schneider...sorry not in the 2 games Schneider played this series it has been pretty much equally dreadful, just check the scoring chances.



1. Now, that's insulting. Having played the position for well over a decade, I find it insulting that you would assume you know as much as me. You're an arm-chair critic who knows absolutely nothing about the position you're watching. I can't help but laugh at your asinine assumption. (literally laughed-out-loud)

2. You've never played, that much is certain. The second flaw you've addressed is that you believe hockey is but a numbers game. You understand statistics? My God, that's fantastic. Hockey is but a numbers game to you and you clearly can't comprehend the sport you're watching. Feel free to offer a rebuttal. It won't change much, my mind has been made up. You've never played the position and clearly you can't comprehend the sport you're watching.

3. Only time will tell. The team had a poor start to the series. That's not an excuse, the Canucks were in a slump, as they neared the end of the season. They coasted to the Presidents Trophy. The series hasn't been as equally dreadful and if you can't see that then there's no point in continuing this argument.

To reiterate: You know absolutely nothing about the sport you're watching. Your criticisms are based off your own experience, as an arm-chair critic whose never laced up a pair of skates. Lastly, you may want to get your eyes checked, the team has improved in the last two games of the series, most importantly on the defensive side of the game.

Once again you were the one who came on here with your 5 bullet points of mistakes Schneider made after an incredible game, I didn't see you post 5 bullet points in the games Luongo LOST. In fact I checked your posts and all I see is excuses even after game 2 where Luongo was definitely no better than average. So lets get this straight Luongo loses and is average and you come make excuses, Schneider wins and plays amazing and he gets 5 bullet point mistakes but you don't hold one goalie above the other? Unbelieveable but I guess you are a goaltending expert as I'm sure you'll say in your next post...and I'm the one wasting your time?


Incredible? Who's the homer again? You're a homer and nothing more than that. Excuses? Luongo has given up at most two bad goals. However' as you'd like to see it, he should carry all of the blame. My posts haven't put favour over either athlete, I've only come in to this discussion to refute morons like you. The Canucks have two amazing young athletes in Luongo and Schneider.

You seem to think that hockey is all about statistics. In the same light, I'm sure you thought Quick played horribly because he gave up three. You don't know the first thing about the sport of hockey. Nor should you be commenting on goaltending. Again, you're just an arm-chair critic.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:44 PM

1. Now, that's insulting. Having played the position for well over a decade, I find it insulting that you would assume you know as much as me. You're an arm-chair critic who knows absolutely nothing about the position you're watching. I can't help but laugh at your asinine assumption. (literally laughed-out-loud)

2. You've never played, that much is certain. The second flaw you've addressed is that you believe hockey is but a numbers game. You understand statistics? My God, that's fantastic. Hockey is but a numbers game to you and you clearly can't comprehend the sport you're watching. Feel free to offer a rebuttal. It won't change much, my mind has been made up. You've never played the position and clearly you can't comprehend the sport you're watching.

3. Only time will tell. The team had a poor start to the series. That's not an excuse, the Canucks were in a slump, as they neared the end of the season. They coasted to the Presidents Trophy. The series hasn't been as equally dreadful and if you can't see that then there's no point in continuing this argument.

To reiterate: You know absolutely nothing about the sport you're watching. Your criticisms are based off your own experience, as an arm-chair critic whose never laced up a pair of skates. Lastly, you may want to get your eyes checked, the team has improved in the last two games of the series, most importantly on the defensive side of the game.



Incredible? Who's the homer again? You're a homer and nothing more than that. Excuses? Luongo has given up at most two bad goals. However' as you'd like to see it, he should carry all of the blame. My posts haven't put favour over either athlete, I've only come in to this discussion to refute morons like you. The Canucks have two amazing young athletes in Luongo and Schneider.

You seem to think that hockey is all about statistics. In the same light, I'm sure you thought Quick played horribly because he gave up three. You don't know the first thing about the sport of hockey. Nor should you be commenting on goaltending. Again, you're just an arm-chair critic.


You keep insisting that I blame Luongo for the first 2 losses. Nowhere in any of my posts did I do that. Yet you say I dont comprehend and call me a moron. Thats a personal attack which is reportable to the mods, but I won't because I enjoy reading your posts that make no sense. All my arguments have been that Schneider is the superior goaltender and I try to back that up with evidence, you just continue to spout your opinion with zero evidence. I won't personally attack you though you are entitled to your opinion no matter how obviously biased and wrong it is. This will be my last reply since I don't appreciate being called a moron by someone who needs to take a long look at himself before calling others names. I can comprehend the sport I'm watching, I've watched it for over 20 years what I can't comprehend is your postings. And from what I read I think you're starting to get mad, which is also amusing to me.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:13 PM

You keep insisting that I blame Luongo for the first 2 losses. Nowhere in any of my posts did I do that. Yet you say I dont comprehend and call me a moron. Thats a personal attack which is reportable to the mods, but I won't because I enjoy reading your posts that make no sense. All my arguments have been that Schneider is the superior goaltender and I try to back that up with evidence, you just continue to spout your opinion with zero evidence. I won't personally attack you though you are entitled to your opinion no matter how obviously biased and wrong it is. This will be my last reply since I don't appreciate being called a moron by someone who needs to take a long look at himself before calling others names. I can comprehend the sport I'm watching, I've watched it for over 20 years what I can't comprehend is your postings. And from what I read I think you're starting to get mad, which is also amusing to me.


That's your go-to defence? Hilarious. Now, as for the attack being, "biased", I'd have to disagree with you there. It's a fair assumption, after all, you've never truly played the sport. Having to read & listen to critique from arm-chair critics, such as yourself is insulting. Your entire argument is flawed - from start to finish. Twenty years of arm-chair criticizing and you don't even know the first thing about goaltending. It's a numbers game to you, nothing more. You understand statistics, nothing more. Your opinions are based on what the media feeds you.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:26 PM

That's your go-to defence? Hilarious. Now, as for the attack being, "biased", I'd have to disagree with you there. It's a fair assumption, after all, you've never truly played the sport. Having to read & listen to critique from arm-chair critics, such as yourself is insulting. Your entire argument is flawed - from start to finish. Twenty years of arm-chair criticizing and you don't even know the first thing about goaltending. It's a numbers game to you, nothing more. You understand statistics, nothing more. Your opinions are based on what the media feeds you.

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Whats really funny is you don't even address the points I make, you just keep saying the same tired things over and over again. And no I'm not mad, I'm not the one who started calling names like a little kid. This will truly be my last reply to you because you won't listen to logic, you can't offer any valid counter arguments other than personal attacks and your posts continue to make less and less sense for example...re-read this:

"That's your go-to defence? Hilarious. Now, as for the attack being, "biased", I'd have to disagree with you there. It's a fair assumption, after all, you've never truly played the sport."

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever, good luck in your future Luongo homerism.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:34 PM

could be worse..

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These guys have won a cup, one of hem has won a conn smyth, both have won the Art Ross, and after this season, both will have won the Hart. Never compare these two to Luongo, ever.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:36 PM

These guys have won a cup, one of hem has won a conn smyth, both have won the Art Ross, and after this season, both will have won the Hart. Never compare these two to Luongo, ever.


Pretty sure its referring to Marc Andre Fleury not Crosby and Malkin.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:02 PM

Pretty sure its referring to Marc Andre Fleury not Crosby and Malkin.


Fleury won a cup and made a cup-winning save with 2 seconds left on Nick Lidstrom. Can't throw dirt on his name either, even if he has been atrocious in these playoffs and has hilarious mental lapses (like in the World Juniors, for instance).

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:04 PM

Fleury won a cup and made a cup-winning save with 2 seconds left on Nick Lidstrom. Can't throw dirt on his name either, even if he has been atrocious in these playoffs and has hilarious mental lapses (like in the World Juniors, for instance).


Wasn't saying its deserved or not, just its not saying Crosby and Malkin choked. And M.A.F. has been pretty sketchy this year, he showed signs of turning it around in the last game though.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:04 PM

Daniel on Roberto Luongo's demeanor: "He's been really upbeat and he wants to win this series as bad as everyone else. It's great to see."

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:28 PM

Whats really funny is you don't even address the points I make, you just keep saying the same tired things over and over again. And no I'm not mad, I'm not the one who started calling names like a little kid. This will truly be my last reply to you because you won't listen to logic, you can't offer any valid counter arguments other than personal attacks and your posts continue to make less and less sense for example...re-read this:

"That's your go-to defence? Hilarious.

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever, good luck in your future Luongo homerism.


You assume that watching the sport, without ever having played it, makes you an expert. You've never played the sport, you'll never understand it. It's nothing but a numbers game to you. You're close-minded and you fail to realize that there's more to hockey than the end result of a game.Statistics alone do not tell the full story. However, In your defence, you offered this little gem:

I can comprehend the sport I'm watching, I've watched it for over 20 years


Really? Twenty-years of sitting on your own behind makes you an expert? .


Now, as for the attack being, "biased", I'd have to disagree with you there. It's a fair assumption, after all, you've never truly played the sport."


You said it was unfair of me to call you a moron and I refuted it. What's not to understand? Simply put, you won't listen to reason.

good luck in your future Luongo homerism.


:picard: I'd say that's a personal attack, but what do I know?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:43 PM

Flyers 22 goals against in 4 games
Pens 23 goals against in 4 games

We do not have a goalie problem ...Lu is great cory is great... they are great.
now if lu played like the pens or flyers goalies then sure call it a melt down and cast some hate but that is not the case.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:45 PM

You assume that watching the sport, without ever having played it, gives you the sole right to critique it. You've never played the sport, you'll never understand it. It's nothing but a numbers game to you. You're close-minded and you fail to realize that there's more to hockey than the end result of a game. In defence, you offered this little gem:



Really? Twenty-years of sitting on your own behind makes you an expert?




You said it was unfair of me to call you a moron and I refuted it. What's not to understand? Any person who has never played the position simply shouldn't offer critique of it.



:picard: I'd say that's a personal attack, but what do I know?


So, if I've never written a book, can I critique books? What about music? Film? Does being able to do something mean you actually better-understand it than other people?

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:46 PM

Flyers 22 goals against in 4 games
Pens 23 goals against in 4 games

We do not have a goalie problem ...Lu is great cory is great... they are great.
now if lu played like the pens or flyers goalies then sure call it a melt down and cast some hate but that is not the case.


Way to jump over an ankle height bar there.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:46 PM

Really? Because I haven't seen Schneider get booed off ice only to rebound and get a shutout the next game.


I also haven't seen him give up a weak goal and completely fall apart
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:48 AM

I think both Luongo & Schneider are great, unfortunately we can't keep them both. Luongo will most likely ask for a trade. He's driven, he wants a cup, wouldn't it be hilarious if he wins one with his next team? I can totally see this happening, cause it'd be payback for driving another goalie out of town. We truly are a goalie graveyard. Wonder how long it will be before fans turn on Cory?

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:48 AM

Because he melts down at the most inopportune time and has such a fragile state of mind. Always thinks the world is out to get him and question his abilities. You think people around the league say Luongo is fragile and inconsistent they're just making stuff up? Remember a few years ago he was voted the players most GM's would build a team around and hyped to death. Ya people hate him for no reason....right.

Really? Did you read his mind? Oh no, he must of told you that himself. No can't be....Must be opinion....that is.....taken as.....fact...

I think both Luongo & Schneider are great, unfortunately we can't keep them both. Luongo will most likely ask for a trade. He's driven, he wants a cup, wouldn't it be hilarious if he wins one with his next team? I can totally see this happening, cause it'd be payback for driving another goalie out of town. We truly are a goalie graveyard. Wonder how long it will be before fans turn on Cory?

I doubt he gets traded as there is many factors that must happen with the two biggest being his NTC, and his contract. And for Cory, it would take 2 years MAXIMUM before this crap happens...unless of course we win the cup every year, and that is not happening..

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:58 AM

Ok, if any of you do not hate Lui then you don't have to read.

WHY?
Why do you all hate Luongo?
What has he ever done to us?
Nothing.
Those times in which you say he "melted down", no.
The only reason he "melted down" was because he was the only goalie playing. If Schneids wins today I can guaranty that Lui and Schneids will lead us to the cup.
Anyway, I'm off topic, why do you all hate Luongo? He's never done anything bad to us, or at least not on purpose. So come on, cheer on both of our goalies and GO CANUCKS GO.


No matter what you say or I say or anyone else might say AV has handled this situation in such a fashion that Lu is now damaged goods with this team . Game 4 was the most important game of the year for this team maybe the most important game in the last 3 or 4 years, besides maybe game 5 6 7 last year in the finals . The game was so important becuase if the team imploded so bad that it got swept alot of changes would have occured that perhaps AV and the rest of the team and management wouldnt want to deal with at this point(could still happen) .

So If you take Lu and say Sorry Fella we are are going to play CS over you becuase he gives us a better chance to win . No matter if it was just a change or the team plays a different style in front of CS or whatever the argument might be, the fact remains, at the end of the day in an exteremly important game the coach said sorry Lu you gotta sit this one out becuase the kid has a better chance to get it done tonight.

I don't really like Lu now . I used to Love him thought he was the next coming of christ. His lack of finish in the playoffs over years ,not just last year has made that feeling wane . I still think he is a good goalie Just not who I see in net .
I have noticed that (semiconsiously ) I am more relaxed and able to enjoy watching the game more with CS in the net

Anyways GO NUCKS GO

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:15 AM

He stole game 7 against Chicago for us(and Burrows too)

He stole the Nashville series and the San Jose series.

And then he went on to be the first goalie to ever win two 1-0 games in the SCF.

Pull your head out of your ass.


1. The reason the Chicago series went to game 7 OT was because of Lu's consecutive meltdowns and the shorty he gave up in the last minutes of game 7 while on his stomach.
2. Kesler stole the series against a Nashville team that was pretty much unable to score at any point during the season and playoffs.
3. San Jose was injury riddled but Lu had his moments (game 5).
4. And in the SCF between his 1-0 games there were 4 losses where he was scored on roughly 19 times.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:00 AM

Lou needs to meet with the press and clear the air... show that he supports Cory , Av and the team !! It looks like he is pouting by staying silent. If hes a team guy like he says he is...he needs to suck it up....and show team loyalty . A hard task but IMO necessary !

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:19 AM

He stole game 7 against Chicago for us(and Burrows too)

He stole the Nashville series and the San Jose series.

And then he went on to be the first goalie to ever win two 1-0 games in the SCF.

Pull your head out of your ass.

Bull, he did not steal the Nashville or San Jose series, he had one or two excellent games in those series he did not steal them. Going on to be the first goalie to ever win 1-0 in the SCF means nothing when you fail big time by allowing some of the worst goals ever in Boston two games in a row. One win in Boston to win the cup, in a series that was low scoring, until Luo mental collaspes.

The difference in Boston was not goal scoring the series by all means was going in the direction of the first goal wins the game. The team in both games in Boston started out by out playing Boston. Thomas standing on his head; Boston coming down taking a shot from the boards and scoring then the bad goals just piled up. Luo did not give his team a chance to win in Boston.

Yes he was a major reason for Van getting to the final, but he was also one of the biggest factors they failed.

The biggest difference between Luo supporters and Luo "haters" ( not really an accurate term) is the Luo supporter over estimate his playoff performance by stating he stoled 3 series and the haters only remembering his meltdown in Boston.
I personal think he played awesome until the Boston games in Boston where he was beyond terrible and in my mind cancels out his previous performance appraisial.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:21 AM

Lou needs to meet with the press and clear the air... show that he supports Cory , Av and the team !! It looks like he is pouting by staying silent. If hes a team guy like he says he is...he needs to suck it up....and show team loyalty . A hard task but IMO necessary !


Screw Luongo! He just needs to go. The reason you haven't heard anything from him is that he is to busy choking to talk! He hasn't come up big when we have needed him to and so has lost his job. Good riddance! :angry:



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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:48 AM

The contract. And my hate isn't personal, it's more at the contract between Gillis and Luongo, but maybe Gillis knows what he's doing. But as a 41 year fan, I took it as a slap in the face as a Schneider/Auld fan.(Nonis as well as I couldn't stand that trade)

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:13 AM

There is a reason why Vancouver is known as the goalie graveyard. Look at how we treated our goalies in the past so far. The fans here are starved for a Stanley cup so when things go bad they usually blame the goalie. I wonder how long it will be before we give Schnieder the same treatment

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:25 AM

I think keeping Schneider and moving Luongo is the right move. If Luongo's already being bashed this much now, I don't think he'd be able to live up with it for the next 10 years. I think everybody can agree that he's emotionally weak and it's just going to make matters worse because if we stick with him and trade Schneider, Luongo will probably be gone in a few years after that too. Luongo deserves and needs a change of scenery, and I think Tampa, Florida, Toronto, and New Jersey(if Brodeur retires) would all be options if Canucks officially made Luongo available.




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