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#151 forevernucks19

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:25 PM

If a GM dumps a player who he only 2 years ago signed to a 12 year contract just because someone a little better came along the Canucks will never attract any big players ever again when they see that this is how seriously the organization treats their multi year offers - and by seriously I mean a big fat joke. Because at any moment, if they see someone better than you, they can just come up to you and ask you to waive your contract and take one for the team. But hey, we'll just have to accept it.

Maybe next they can start trading players during games and shipping them off without letting them say goodbye to their teammates like Montreal.


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:25 PM

I think this comes down to Luongo not being so much a "saint" as Hockeyville88 put it, but rather coming down to a game of chess. Luongo was able to say to the public he is willing to be moved, but has put the responsibility on Gillis to demand the trade. This makes Luongo look like a saint, while if Gillis does ask Luongo to waive his NTC, then Gillis looks like a complete jerk.


I see it a little differently. I see it as Luongo giving Gillis permission to ask him to waive his NTC. That way both can come out not looking like jerks in the whole situation.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:25 PM

Ya, because Luongo won us the Stanley Cup this year right?

Schneider was the better goaltender this year by FAR.

I don't understand all the Luongo fanboys in here. Don't get me wrong, I'll be sad to see him go because he was a great asset to this team and a great goaltender. The real problem is about what is best for the team.

The Canucks play better in front of Schneider. Schneider has proven he can play extremely well in pressure games.

I'll be sad to see Luongo go, but that will be attoned for when Schneider starts next season.


You gotta remember Schnieder just played 3 playoff games, and we still lost. Point is goal scoring needs to improve regardless
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

We need to get Teddy Purcell and Mark Barberio for him from Tampa!

Teddy Purcell (age 26) brings size (6-3), grit, along with +20 goals and +35 assists at least (this season 65 points).


Mark Barberio (age 22) (6-1)he would come in the Lu trade. This guy is an offensive dman who is really gifted. He won the Eddie Shore as the most outstanding dman in the AHL this season, putting up 61 points in 74 games and a +28 rating. He could easily be our offensive dman for years to come (imagine him and Weber or Connauton) quaterbacking our PP. Also he could grow as Tanev's partner along with him. A return of him and Purcell from Tampa would be amazing for our team.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

I feel bad for Luongo... he's supposed to be the franchise goalie, and after everything he's done for us, he may never become just that.


Remember how he said Florida called him their franchise goalie and then "slapped him in the face" with arbitration instead of prolonging his contract?

If that felt like a slap in the face, I wonder what asking you to waive your NTC clause 2 years into a 12 year deal feels like. Sure he will hold his head high if it ever gets to that, but believe me the reputation of this management would be RUINED. No one with any real talent would want to sign here after that.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

You gotta remember Schnieder just played 3 playoff games, and we still lost. Point is goal scoring needs to improve regardless


Schnieder also was the only goalie to get the Canucks a win.

(I would prefer if the Canucks kept Cory, but I'm not going to complain either way)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:27 PM

Bah, love you Lu.

If this is the beginning of the end, it shouldn't be like this.

Sure, the dream of you hoisting a cup over your head crumbled to pieces over the past couple of years. But man, did you get us close.

You've raised the bar for us and people will quickly forget that, because they are short sighted. New flavour of the weekers who have no sense of appreciation. I hope we find a way to keep you because I'd be scared as hell to have my team face you.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:28 PM

If a GM dumps a player who he only 2 years ago signed to a 12 year contract just because someone a little better came along the Canucks will never attract any big players ever again when they see that this is how seriously the organization treats their multi year offers - and by seriously I mean a big fat joke. Because at any moment, if they see someone better than you, they can just come up to you and ask you to waive your contract and take one for the team. But hey, we'll just have to accept it.

Maybe next they can start trading players during games and shipping them off without letting them say goodbye to their teammates like Montreal.


Philadelphia....Signed Richards and Carter during the Season to massive long term deals and trade them at the Draft. Jagr a big name free agent signs with them.

Your Theory Fails.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:29 PM

Ya, because Luongo won us the Stanley Cup this year right?

Schneider was the better goaltender this year by FAR.

I don't understand all the Luongo fanboys in here. Don't get me wrong, I'll be sad to see him go because he was a great asset to this team and a great goaltender. The real problem is about what is best for the team.

The Canucks play better in front of Schneider. Schneider has proven he can play extremely well in pressure games.

I'll be sad to see Luongo go, but that will be attoned for when Schneider starts next season.


Did u miss Lu taking us to the playoffs every year? And to the SCF? You're blaming Lu for this year? How about having to the trade Hodgson and erhoff away then a lack of scoring? Trading luongo will be the downfall of this team.

I really don't get Schneider fan-boys.

Wait maybe I do get Schneider fan-boys. They barely watch enough hockey to have a clue and then still feel the need to put their two cents in.

Edited by Special Ed, 24 April 2012 - 12:32 PM.

If you like looking at statistics to determine who's better, you're just a casual fan.

2.41 season GAA isn't very impressive. Let's not get into playoffs and his SV%.

Cory Schneider is the next Patrick Roy.


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:29 PM

Man, if he goes, I'll sure miss him. We've had so many great memories with Lu. All those great saves. The Stanley Cup run...I'll miss you. :( I'll always support you, Luongo! LUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

Can we keep the core of the team together and blow up this city's fan base instead?

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

Philadelphia....Signed Richards and Carter during the Season to massive long term deals and trade them at the Draft. Jagr a big name free agent signs with them.

Your Theory Fails.


Lebum James fails..

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

This is truly a shame! The BEST goalie we have had and the media, fans and management have basically hung Lou out to dry. Lets look at his accomplishments in a Canucks uniform.

2nd all time in games played - 386 games - (Surprised he made it this far, with the critism he receives)
1st all time in wins - 224 -
1st all time in win percentage - 0.58% - ght
1st all time in shutouts - 33 -
2nd all time in GAA - 2.35 in 386 games played - (Second to only Schneider with over 300 less games played)
2nd all time in Save percentage - 9.20 in 386 games played - (Second to only Schneider with over 300 less games played)
2nd all time in games played in the playoffs - 59 - (Second only to McLean @ 68)
2nd all time in playoff wins - 32 - (Only 2 behind McLean with Kirk having 9 more starts)
2nd all time in playoff GAA - 2.50 - (Behind Alex Auld @ 2.48 which only played 4 games)
2nd all time in playoff shutouts with 5 (Behind McLean @ 6 but still playing 9 less games)
1st all time in playoff save percentage - 9.17%

It's no secret I am a huge Luongo fan but for the past few years it has been difficult to continue to say the same thing over and over again. Luongo is the best goalie the Canucks have ever had and it is such a shame that we may be losing him. I remeber last year someone said on these boards that ANY other fan base/media would be treating him in a different way. That he would not be the scapegoat for the teams failures in any other NHL market. I guess now we may get the chance to see. I like Schneider, he will be great, he seems to be a team player and perhaps he should be the started but to just throw away someone that has done SO much for the orginization and played so well seems so ridiculous to me. Good luck with your new team if you do go and sorry we basically ran you out of town.

FTR: Schneids is 1-2 in the playoffs - Does that mean he should be traded? The only reason he even has that 1 win is because we scored two pp goals, something we couldn't give Luongo in games 1 or 2...



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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

Schnieder also was the only goalie to get the Canucks a win.

(I would prefer if the Canucks kept Cory, but I'm not going to complain either way)


Man its 1 freakin win! so ur satisfied with that? My point is how everyone think Schnieders gives us an automatic win, our team proved they could still lose 2 out of 3 with the great goaltending Schnieds gave them.

What does that tell you with the great goaltending Schnieds gave us, we still lose??
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

Whether we keep Luo or not is irrelevant. There are other issues that need to be addressed than goaltending which was not a big issue for us

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

You gotta remember Schnieder just played 3 playoff games, and we still lost. Point is goal scoring needs to improve regardless


Schneiders stats:

1.31 GAA, .960 S%

Luongos stats:

3.59 GAA, .891 S%

Regardless of the outcomes of games 1-5.... that is a STARK contrast in stats.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

Philadelphia....Signed Richards and Carter during the Season to massive long term deals and trade them at the Draft. Jagr a big name free agent signs with them.

Your Theory Fails.


lol Jagr?! give me a break, your theory fails. 2 teams were interested in Jagr, he is not a big name free agent anymore
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

Lebum James fails..


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:34 PM

Schneiders stats:

1.31 GAA, .960 S%

Luongos stats:

3.59 GAA, .891 S%

Regardless of the outcomes of games 1-5.... that is a STARK contrast in stats.


But point is we still lost....What does it tell you about our team with those outstanding numbers from Schnieds, we still manage to lose? Man if Pitts had that goaltending they would have swept their series.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:34 PM

Gillis is not going to ask Luongo to waive his NTC. Didn't Gillis say that he is never going to ask any player to waive their NTC?

The only way I think Luongo is leaving is if he demands a trade.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

I hope that they deal with Luongo properly. Luongo deserves to be treated as an all-star player because thats simply what he is. I hope that the fans here realize what Luongo brought to this team and how he turned this team into a competitor.

With that said, the Luongo fanboys need to give it a rest.

Schneider had the better season and the better playoffs.

You can be said that Luongo may be traded, hell, you can mourn him. But please cut the crap on how Luongo is the only reason we got to the stanley cup finals last year, or that hes the reason we repeated as president trophy winners.

We had ELITE offense last year. We had great goaltending, but the reason we got so far was because we were able to put the puck in the net.

Schneider won 20 games for this team this season. Stop slamming your head into the sand everytime someone says Schneider earned his spot on this team.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

Luongo is a true competitor with all the respect in the world for our franchise.

Yet tons of our fan base are happy to see him go, but were outraged when Coho, a guy who disrespected our franchise by whining and requesting a trade mid season, left.

What a joke.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

But point is we still lost....What does it tell you about our team with those putstanding numbers from Schnieds, we still manage to lose? Man if Pitts had that goaltending they would have swept their series.


We scored 4 goals in the 3 games Schneider was in net.

The Canucks have scored 16 goals in the last 12 playoff games.

Schneider or Luongo can't score.... so where is the problem?I think it's pretty clear.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

It's obvious that it's going to be a shame if either Luongo or Schneider gets traded. Of course I'll support whoever the #1 goalie is, regardless of what happens over the summer. And whichever one leaves town, I hope he does well wherever he winds up.

If Luongo is the one that gets traded, someone is going to have to be willing to put up with his huge contract, and it's gotta be someone that has deep pockets. And the Canucks would get a lot in return (i.e., scoring sniper, offensive defenseman, stay-at-home D-man, prospects, draft picks, etc.).

If Schneider goes, same story: Canucks would get some veterans, prospects, and draft picks...and Schneider effectively becomes someone's franchise goalie for years to come.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

And anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for people to turn on Schneids if he becomes Goalie #1?? Because it's going to happen, just as it has, it did, with Luo. It boggles my mind how any goalie would ever want to play in Vancouver the way they get treated by a certain segment of the fan base and the media.


People threw digital spears at me for the last 17 months here, for simply suggesting alternating them and having a tandem every other game.
Cory has had to deal with way more pressure from being Luongos challenger, than he will ever get as the undisputed no.1.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

I will be extremely sad to see him go. Your my boy LOU!
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

Lu sounded sooo upset, like he was about to cry :(.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:37 PM

Sad to see LU go but he leaves Vancouver with a good contract.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:37 PM

I understand people being upset at how Luongo has been treated, but I dont understand how you can be mad that he is going to be gone this summer.

If the Canucks have to choose between Schnieds and Luongo, I dont know how you dont take Schnieds 100 times out of a 100. Would it be great if they were both back? Sure, but thats 5.5 million for a backup Goaltender assuming Schnieds takes over #1 duties which I am sure he will.

Do the Canucks have a responsibility to Luongo? Sure, thats why they signed a 12 year deal, however, this is a business. If you see something else potentially more profitable you dump your previous (some would argue bad) investment and cut your losses. I dont think it will impact the FA market like some of you do.

The alternative is trade Schnieder, a younger version of Luongo without all of the emotional baggage and built in hater fan base (im sure this will come eventually), then the Canucks would have dumped their best two assets in one calendar year, and we would be stuck with a team that looks exactly like the one that wasnt good enough for another few years.

This isnt kindergarten, big decisions must be made, and keeping Luongo over Schnieder is not the right one.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:37 PM

But point is we still lost....What does it tell you about our team with those putstanding numbers from Schnieds, we still manage to lose? Man if Pitts had that goaltending they would have swept their series.


The point is Cory kept the games closer than Luongo did.




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