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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:52 PM

You really think a guy that makes big money is going to eat bear meat? I would be willing to wager thats not what they had in mind. As well most bears that are killed arent eaten are they? At least i have never heard of hunters eating bear meat.

I have eaten bear meat many times, and every hunter I know that gets a bear does it for the meat.

I think you are making an assumption, and you may be right, but I think there is a decent chance you're wrong.

I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:52 PM

Well, I'm a vegetarian so I actually can denounce this LOL, as I don't eat beef from the supermarket (although I do agree that it's no different)


The voice of reason in this topic comes from a vegetarian so often. You are 100% right there is no difference. You can take it one step more and say people who hunt for there food are taking responsibility for there food and not just buying meat of animals that are feed with "oil" and live in small pens. If you are not willing to hunt you should not eat meat.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:53 PM

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There is a huge difference. Your main point is the meat we buy in stores was an animal, but guess what we eat it, for food.. Aslo there is the fact that cows etc are domesticated animals that are raised for meat. They are not wild animals living naturally in their own habitat.
And even then I dont belive that how cows are treated is right. Seriously don't be an Idiot.

How much useless crap do you have in your home? How many animals died because of it? Air pollution, water pollution, habitat destruction, etc. all kill animals. Do you give 2 craps about the effect buying a new phone every year has on animals?

Moral of this thread - It's okay to kill things as long as you do so indirectly. That way, you can feel morally superior without actually being morally superior.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:53 PM

So it's ok to eat a tortured animal but killing a bear for a trophy is National Socialist Party like.

Ok there dumdum.

You are the must ignorant person alive.

I couldn't fight you it wouldn't be for pride or triumph, it would be so there's more air for the rest of us.


Wait you honestly want to fight someone because your a moron? Ok there dumbdumb < this is how to spell
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:56 PM

Its disgusting to see especially from a religious, "nature-loving" person.

Oh, for crying out loud! How on earth does anyone shooting a bear, have anything to do with religion? What, no one killed animals in the Bible?

What a stupid comment.

A hunter can also be a nature lover.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:56 PM

I bet 95% of the people complaining about Booth killing an innocent bear would have zero hesitation in regards to calling animal control who would likely put down the bear.


People would call control if the bear wandered into the public, where it was a threat to safety, but comparing that to killing a bear for fun in the forest where it should be is idiotic.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:56 PM

Would be nice if Dave had such a good shooting percentage on the ice too.


Now, this was funny!
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:59 PM

A hunter can also be a nature lover.


i agree. but someone who kills animals with a big smile on their face and posts it on twitter for a million people to see clearly doesn't care about nature. it's a PR move, and it's pathetic
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:00 PM

So, cows are raised for meat, so that makes their inhumane treatment okay?

Crocodiles aren't raised for shoes and purses, and tuna aren't raised for canning, but no one is slamming anyone for that. Step back from the keyboard, before you do something dangerous - like assuming that your team owes you an explanation for anything, or that you pre-approve their off-ice activities.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:01 PM

People would call control if the bear wandered into the public, where it was a threat to safety, but comparing that to killing a bear for fun in the forest where it should be is idiotic.

So if you bulldoze a forest to construct a bunch of houses in a bear's habitat and the bear ventures in after the fact, it's okay to kill the bear?
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:02 PM

i'm not a vegetarian. but i think there is a difference between killing a wild bear and a captive cow. I'm not opposed to killing animals, and indeed sometimes it is necessary because of overpopulation.

i've taken care of cows. cows are dumb as a rock. they don't have meaningful relationships. they go around being cows, eating and pooping, until one day someone hits them on the head real good. then we cut all the food off of them.

bears are beautiful. they're smart and depending on the kind of bear they're social, and curious. this may be an artificial or superficial line to make, but it's the same one that makes it easy to squash an ant, and hard to kill a dog.

there's a reason we shy away from killing whales and horses and dogs and dolphins. killing a bear, to me, falls in that category.

either way what really, really, bugs me about this whole thing, isn't even killing the bear. I can imagine good people, with different beliefs than mine, going out and killing a bear. but the way this image was just posted on twitter with the grins and everything, just makes it seem as if they didn't really care about this bear at all.

i've known hunters, and all of them have extreme respect for the animals they kill and extreme humility and thankfulness for nature, and animals in general. killing a bear should not be "oh hey, look what i did today" or "look at me, i'm such a man" or anything even remotely close. maybe it was just a clumsy move, but to me this oozes trophy killing.

what did this bear die for? food? booth ate the bear? or did this help booth's subsistence in any way? did it help anyone else's? or was it just a fun day out, coulda went out bowling but instead i shot a bear, look at me i'm so awesome?


I agree with you about the end. I find it kind of uncomfortable that they're just smiling and having a good time while a dead animal is lying in front of them. Heck, Maybe i just dont have the same mindset as a hunter.

IMO, the only "humane" time to kill an animal is if its for self defence. Or overpopulation i guess. Or if its a threat. Clearly, Booth didnt seem like he was the one being hunted.

I dont hate Booth or hunters by any means, but i just dont understand them.

Though the part i dont agree with you is the Cow and the Bear. Yes, the Cow is dumb and the Bear is smart. But it doesnt mean that the Bear can be treated better than the Cow. And thats what it disgusts me, our society today pratically focus on protecting the "pretty" animals (that you mentioned above) first. Thats like saying "The beautiful people are top priority, son dont care about the ugly ones yet". See something wrong with it?

BTW, I also eat meat. So I'm at fault too. I just dont like the way the animals, that we eat, are being killed and kept captive.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:05 PM

i agree. but someone who kills animals with a big smile on their face and posts it on twitter for a million people to see clearly doesn't care about nature. it's a PR move, and it's pathetic


are you kidding me how in the hell is this a PR move

this is just the end result of a good hunt that is all nothing more
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:08 PM

Alot of people in this thread sound like the type of people where if a bear kills a kid or something and the RCMP has to come in and shoot the bear cause of it they would feel sorry for the bear....seriously get a grip
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:11 PM

So if you bulldoze a forest to construct a bunch of houses in a bear's habitat and the bear ventures in after the fact, it's okay to kill the bear?


Well that sucks and its an issue i'd like Canada to look at, but you cant have bears going around mauling children. I'd prefer to tranq the bear and drop it far in the forest.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:12 PM

As long as its a dangerous animal, I can care less, love David as a player and am even a bigger fan now! LOL @ animal lovers all upset
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:13 PM

I agree with you about the end. I find it kind of uncomfortable that they're just smiling and having a good time while a dead animal is lying in front of them. Heck, Maybe i just dont have the same mindset as a hunter.

IMO, the only "humane" time to kill an animal is if its for self defence. Or overpopulation i guess. Or if its a threat. Clearly, Booth didnt seem like he was the one being hunted.

I dont hate Booth or hunters by any means, but i just dont understand them.

Though the part i dont agree with you is the Cow and the Bear. Yes, the Cow is dumb and the Bear is smart. But it doesnt mean that the Bear can be treated better than the Cow. And thats what it disgusts me, our society today pratically focus on protecting the "pretty" animals (that you mentioned above) first. Thats like saying "The beautiful people are top priority, son dont care about the ugly ones yet". See something wrong with it?

BTW, I also eat meat. So I'm at fault too. I just dont like the way the animals, that we eat, are being killed and kept captive.


The animals I eat are not held captive. I buy my meat directly from farmers that pasture raise there animals and animals that I hunt on my own. I don't like to buy meat from the store because I know the impact it has. You need to make better choices or stop eating meat.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:16 PM

How much useless crap do you have in your home? How many animals died because of it? Air pollution, water pollution, habitat destruction, etc. all kill animals. Do you give 2 craps about the effect buying a new phone every year has on animals?

Moral of this thread - It's okay to kill things as long as you do so indirectly. That way, you can feel morally superior without actually being morally superior.


You're making alot assumptions- I have no leather prodcts, I eat mostly organic (local when possible) eat free range meats, bike everywhere and am planning on buying a hybrid type vehichle when I can afford it.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:17 PM

not a fan of hunting.. but whatver
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:19 PM

i love meat and i love animals....but WE DONT NEED TO HUNT BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we have other mindless animals to eat at our disposal. we dont need bear meat, no one does so its a waste of a beautiful animal!!!!!!! this is digusting in every meaning of the word, kinda like what trumps little pieces of crap kids did last month.......I WAS FUMING!!!!!!!!

in no way can you justify this, i dont care what you say or how you say it but killing and hunting bears for whatever reason is wrong!!!!!!!!!

people who wear fur for clothing are the biggest $%*^ ive ever seen in my life....YOU DONT NEED TO WEAR REAL FUR!!!!!!!!!!! you just dont, you wont live any longer and look any better....
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:21 PM

So, cows are raised for meat, so that makes their inhumane treatment okay?

Crocodiles aren't raised for shoes and purses, and tuna aren't raised for canning, but no one is slamming anyone for that. Step back from the keyboard, before you do something dangerous - like assuming that your team owes you an explanation for anything, or that you pre-approve their off-ice activities.

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Never said cows treatment was okay, only that there was a difference.
I have no crocodile apperal, and I don't eat tuna. Also, I slam them on every occasion.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:21 PM

You're making alot assumptions- I have no leather prodcts, I eat mostly organic (local when possible) eat free range meats, bike everywhere and am planning on buying a hybrid type vehichle when I can afford it.


lol are you one of those people that thinks you're special if you buy a hybrid? Producing a prius or any other hybrid uses as much resources (plastics, metals etc.) and creates as much by-product and pollution as a conventional vehicle. Although hybrids use less gasoline they still require it for operation. Even if everyone were to switch to hybrids the earth will still be in trouble. You aren't saving the planet
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

You're making alot assumptions- I have no leather prodcts, I eat mostly organic (local when possible) eat free range meats, bike everywhere and am planning on buying a hybrid type vehichle when I can afford it.


Organic meat is still raised in feed lot conditions and even the meat that is "free range" is often only free ranged for a small % of its life. You think you are making better choices then others but your just a victim of marketing. Buy from the farmers and go see the farm first it's the only way to know.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:28 PM

Well said. I am not a fan of hunting but I can acknowledge that habitat destruction is far, far worse than a limited harvest of said animal. Most environmental conservationists will admit that, moving forward, hunting has to be a part of the solution. My main concern is when it involves species at risk, such as grizzly's and wolves, because I think they seriously underestimate the amount of poaching, and the government intentionally inflates their estimates of population sizes because of the perceived economic benefits derived from trophy hunting.


So tired of hearing this. Hunters are not, as a rule, 'respectful of nature and all of gods creatures blah blah blah'. I've met A LOT of hunters in my time and I can honestly say that a large percentage of them are ignorant rednecks who openly admit to poaching and leaving badly wounded animals to die in the woods. iHunters are not, as a rule, 'respectful of nature and all of gods creatures blah blah blah'. I've met A LOT of hunters in my time and I can honestly say that a large percentage of them are ignorant rednecks who openly admit to poaching and leaving badly wounded animals to die in the woods. I'm not saying hunters are inherently bad people, but the ability to legally nherently bad people, but the ability to legallybuy weapons and head off into the bush to kill things isn't solely enjoyed by the pure at heart.


This is just about the most ignorant post I have ever read on CDC.
I have also met a lot of hunters and they are more respectful of the wildlife or the forest than most. They buy licenses and tags every year and 99.99% of them obey the rules as well as understand why the rules are in place.
Geez do you hang out with a bunch of bear poachers from the city that make their living selling illegal bear parts?
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:42 PM

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:43 PM

He announced he shot it. So we know it was Booth.
He took a photo with his buddies and they're all proud as little peacocks that their firearms were able to kill such a huge animal.
You tell me - do they look like they're doing this for FUN? Or do they look like they have such respect for the animal and the meat it will provide that they are being humble and respectful to the bear.
Come on... give your head a shake!!

Oh and I guess he should have a good cry after a successful hunt? Give your righteous head a shake. You probably can't wait for better weather to go out and catch a fish......that is unless you are one of those people that believe the salmon was raised in a can.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:45 PM

are you kidding me how in the hell is this a PR move

this is just the end result of a good hunt that is all nothing more


the end result of a good hunt is a proud and humble hunter, and a dead animal who died under appropriate circumstances. it's not a grinning hockey star sharing the picture of a dead animal for the world to see just so twitter followers can retweet his hunt and make him more popular. think of other things people place on twitter. it's a place where people casually share what they're doing. killing an animal such as a bear is a very very special thing, and i think more respect for the bear is in order. plus the fact he used this killing as an opportunity to tie this to the vancouver/bruins rivalry is another piece of evidence he isn't a respectful hunter
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:53 PM

Well that sucks and its an issue i'd like Canada to look at, but you cant have bears going around mauling children. I'd prefer to tranq the bear and drop it far in the forest.




The problem is in a lot of cases, relocating a bear and dropping it into another bears territory is pretty much a death sentence for it anyhow, but now it gets to be mauled to death and lay bleeding on the ground.....I guess the only thing is it gets to fight back, but in the end you will have a dead bear, and maybe two if the other is injured in the fight.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:56 PM

I'm by no means an animal activist but this pic was pretty sad and disturbing

That's a beautiful creature that was killed for no reason at all. It was probably doing more good to the world than bad. Very sad to know that that's what some people do just for a bit of an adrenaline boost.


I guess you could be out rioting on the streets of Vancouver and destroying other ppl's lives and livelihoods. :emot-parrot:
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:58 PM

I actually lol'd. Yup those 'hunters got it tough up in that tree. So much so that i often hear of bears catching hunters and hunters falling out of trees. Another thing i have never seen a hunter go out alone. Its like theyre too scared to face a challenge. Will they have beer with them to celebrate an expectly easy victory over the bear? Are they going to have 'bear burgers and eat it?

So far anyone upporting hasnt made any strong points to me. Heres a senario where im cool with hunting a bear(besides one thats killing ppl). I decide i want to have some good ol fashion bear burgers. But since i dont really need them and its more for 'sport its only fair to challenge nature fairly. I would go out into the wild alone. With maybe some water, small rations and a hunting knife. I then build a shelter and carve out either a spear or a bow with arrows. Then i spend time hunting to the best of my abilities and only using what nature has provided me. If i kill a bear i eat it. Use the bones as a trophy(which would have far more meaning through this type of experience) and as well use the fur in my shelter.

To me that would not only be truely sporting, but as well hunting in the true meaning of the word. If i had happened to catch a small animal during my time in the wilderness, that would be fair use in 'baiting. To me this is the kind of true hunting experience. The rest is just exploiting our technology over nature like humans do.

Anyhow you wouldnt find me doing that because i dont need to. And im not interested in eating bear.


Man I would just love to see you venture into bear country and spend one night there. The first time you came face to face with a bear, you would be looking to change your panties.
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:00 PM

People here need to get off their high horses, this holier than thou attitude is laughable.

What about the corporations you pay for your chicken and eggs? You are directly funding the mistreatment of animals if you don't buy free range.
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