"I love how people put the focus on her and her mistakes, and completely avoid the fact that she was preyed on and seduced by an older guy, and then extorted for sex. Yet she's the one that should be ridiculed?"
What I said:
"I still want the bullies put to justice ofcourse as it is also mostly their fault for this tragic outcome.
It was in part due to her mistake that she killed herself, but, as I highlighted there, it wouldn't have gone this far had she not been bullied. I am not negating the bullying nor and I saying it is less significant than the mistakes she made which lead to it.
"Funny how society today finds it more convenient to label a girl a slut, then to actually look at the situation."
By 'society' I assume you mean MOST people but yourself, or rather me. I didn't call this girl a slut, and I haven't met anyone in society who would.
I would look at this situation and determine that there is nothing that can be done with cyber-bullying. That making yourself subject to dangerous individuals and giving them reasons to pursue you, and Amanda made several mistakes, will result in the subsequent pursuing of those particular individuals.
"This girl was 13 when this started! You show me a 13 year old girl that isn't irrational and vulnerable, and I'll call you a liar"
Hence why I said:
"She was young so I can sympathize a bit with her.
However, if she were older, I don't think I would be able to.
Killing yourself is selfish, huh? How inconsiderate that she didn't think about anyone but herself and the fact that she no longer had the will to live. I'm sorry, but unless you have walked a mile in other people's shoes, don't make judgements. Anyone who hasn't battled depression has no right to say anything on the matter, because the bottom line is no one knows what these people were going through.
I have battled depression, and I was bullied through high-school. Many kids have had to deal with it. To kill yourself is to put your friends and family through the worst momments of their lives. Killing yourself is not thinking of what you're taking from everyone else. It is thinking of a one-way-out solution to your problems and creating a no-way-out problem for your parents or friends who could lay sleepless for the rest of their lifes asking if it was their fault, or if there was something they could've done to stop you from killing yourself.
Rick Rypien wasn't a selfish coward, he was a good man that was battling his own personal demons, which eventually got the best of him. This idea that people who commit suicide are selfish or weak is ridiculous. These people have an actual sickness that changes the way you think and feel. So stop and think before you post such insensitive, misinformed posts.
I didn't call anyone a coward for killing themselves. NIETHER did I call them weak. Don't put words in my mouth when you are arguing with me, especially
ones like those. Rick Rypien's case is much different than Amanda Todd's. And to be honest, I don't know the specifics on Rick Rypien's case, but I imagine they aren't anything like Amanda Todd's, so that is about as far as I will go with that paragraph.
"Heh - was your point that we don't sympathize with them or that they don't get front page news? (maybe a combo of the two?)"
"Oh and I love the whole, if there's something worse out there, it means this isn't important argument. Yes there are starving kids in Africa, but that doesn't mean this issue isn't worth discussing."
That last bit was just something to think about. It wasn't the point of the argument. The point of the argument was described in the preceding text.
"If it was that we don't sympathize with them, then.... yeah, of course not. How can we? I've never had to fight for my life for food in a world where even access to clean drinking water is a struggle. I have however been subject to ridicule and bullying, online and otherwise (always, of course, in a FIRST world country), and can therefore sympathize to that... because I've had experience... hence the context of the word "sympathize".
If you're talking front page news then I suggest you find an alternative news group. Does the name Malala ring any bells?
Else If, you still think I've missed your point AND/OR called you out personally /slash/ ridiculed you for being heartless and a horrible person, please refer to my "/sarcasm" tag. Present me with an obvious argument and I will present you with an obvious conflicting argument"
"Stupidest thing I've ever read. So we should just forget about any local news and have international news all over our local news paper. If you want to read about world events, then use different media outlets. There is always and will always be starving children in Africa and am sure everyone in the world is informed about that and the living condition there. Why should there be a 24 hour coverage of what is going on in 3rd world countries and what is happening in Africa when we also have our own problems and politics that needs to be covered locally?"
Is not at all what I am implying. Sorry if you somehow managed to infer that as the main argument of my post.
"Also blaming the victim because of her decision or mistake is stupid when the victim was only 12 years old at that time. If you are blaming the victim, then you are also okay with child molestation."
And that is where I stopped reading.
That is a ridiculous statement. I'm not even going to bother responding to that. You are arguing by making very bold assumptions of A LOT of people, and I really don't appreciate that. If you have a point to make, make restate it.
Sorry if I didn't address all those points as thoroughly as you may've liked, there were a lot of responses on my post as you can probably tell and I have to get going somewhere so I really don't have time to read through this carefully. Excuse any typos\grammar errors please.