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#1 DeNiro

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:20 PM

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:27 PM

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:33 PM

Nope.

The Wolves have the worst coverage out of any AHL team. You can pretty much watch every other team consistently but the Wolves.

Another reason to get another affiliate.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:48 PM

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Kyle Beach opens the scoring putting the IceHogs up 1-0 at 18:32 of the first.


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:52 PM

Beach always seems to get up for games against the Wolves.

Him and Kassian seem to be continuing to show their hate for each other tonight too.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:03 PM

The Canucks top scoring prospect in the AHL is Jordan Schroeder at 121st...

That shouldn't be acceptable to the Canucks organization. There's a serious lack of development going on here. Most of our prospects seem to be taking a step backwards rather than forwards.

The only category that one of our prospects is tops in is for penalty minutes, and that's Kassian. Not a stat you wanna lead in.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:04 PM

Dang.. These games are usually pretty fun to watch.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:05 PM

Agreed Deniro. It's not acceptable, esp for guys like Schroeder who are 3r yr AHLers.

On a side note, Joslin + Connauton are each -1 already (again). That pairing has been a disaster since day 1, I don't understand why they're still together.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:08 PM

Agreed Deniro. It's not acceptable, esp for guys like Schroeder who are 3r yr AHLers. On a side note, Joslin + Connauton are each -1 already (again). That pairing has been a disaster since day 1, I don't understand why they're still together.


I don't understand why Joslin is getting ice time at all. He's terrible.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:08 PM

Someone mentioned last night that Arniel lost his job for Winnipeg? Is that true? I figured he was just gonna coach the Wolves until the lockout hopefully ended and then go back to Winnipeg.

If he actually did lose his job, well, I can see why.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:18 PM

At the same time, you can't put all the coaching problems on Arniel. He does have two assistants that are just as responsible.

Baumer has no coaching experience, and he used to play with some of these guys just a year ago. Maybe that situation isn't working out.

And I've heard Foligno is a bit of a hard a$$. Maybe he's rubbing some of the players the wrong way.

Whatever it is, they've had long enough to figure it out. The chemistry just doesn't seem to be right. After the November they had, if this losing continues through December, I don't see Arniel sticking around.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:21 PM

Ebbett scores. Tie game!
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:22 PM

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:32 PM

Connauton got the first assist on Ebbett's rebound goal.

They need him to start rolling if they ever wanna get their powerplay clicking.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:51 PM

In other Wolves related news.

Corrado scored a regulation and a shootout goal.

He scored in a must score situation in the shootout. Unfortunately his team still lost.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:04 PM

Our prospect pool is paper-thin. That would explain 121st more than Arniel.

Schroeder might not even pan out at the NHL level, so i guess we have to look at other things besides points to grade our prospects.

However, if we're apparently spending a ton of cash on player development, then um, where are the players?
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

Our prospect pool is paper-thin. That would explain 121st more than Arniel.

Schroeder might not even pan out at the NHL level, so i guess we have to look at other things besides points to grade our prospects.

However, if we're apparently spending a ton of cash on player development, then um, where are the players?


Schroeder has proven that he can score at least a 0.5 PPG pace in this league. Him falling behind on that is the coaches fault. I mean the guy hasn't been able to establish a regular set of lines in almost 2 and a half months...

The fact that Schroeder is below late round and undrafted guys is not a testament to his skill level, it's a testament to the team's as a whole.

I mean if there was one or two guys on this team excelling I would say okay, maybe Schroeder's just not as good as we thought. But the fact there's AHL veterans that have put up a PPG pace in the past that are struggling, it tells you all you need to know. Basically when a few players are struggling, that's their fault, but when the team as a whole is struggling, that comes down to coaching.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:25 PM

Sound like Miller and Shaw went at it. Hopefully Miller dropped the Mallet on him.

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If someone can tell me what Brandon Bollig's use in the Hawks org. is - other than for the eventual Zack Kassian revenge - I'd like to know.

Brandon Bollig's professional career: 153 games, 19 points, 440 PIMs. He's clearly not there to play hockey.


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Darren Haydar scores his first goal of the season as the captain gives the @Chicago_Wolves a 2-1 lead in the third period over Rockford


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:28 PM

Captain invisible re-appears out of nowhere to make it 2-1.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:36 PM

Team as a whole, including Schroeder, just might not be all that great. Honest assessment. Thanks to our prospect pool being paper-thin.

Ice Hogs to Wolves are a good example of this. Not that the Pigs are awesome, but they are full of actual Hawks prospects. Wolves? Not so Canuck-heavy. Beyond Kassian there is no guaranteed NHL forward.

It's tough to take now because of all the sunshine blown up our butts from Gillis and Co. about prospect development.

The only more bloated and failed Canadian prospect development system is TO's. But even theirs might be better at this point. I would've included Cgy as well, but lately the Heat is doing a'ight.

Schroeder has proven that he can score at least a 0.5 PPG pace in this league. Him falling behind on that is the coaches fault. I mean the guy hasn't been able to establish a regular set of lines in almost 2 and a half months...

The fact that Schroeder is below late round and undrafted guys is not a testament to his skill level, it's a testament to the team's as a whole.

I mean if there was one or two guys on this team excelling I would say okay, maybe Schroeder's just not as good as we thought. But the fact there's AHL veterans that have put up a PPG pace in the past that are struggling, it tells you all you need to know. Basically when a few players are struggling, that's their fault, but when the team as a whole is struggling, that comes down to coaching.


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:40 PM

Needless to say, i've been a huge Gillis supporter, but yup, it's time for some results from our farm system.

Here's hoping a Canuck-owned Abbotsford farm squad isn't just a dream. That would be freakin' sweet.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:43 PM

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UFC in Rockford - #Canucks prospect and @Chicago_Wolves defenseman @K_Nauts destroys Jeremy Morin in a third period scrap


Good for Connauton! He just lost 10 lbs after being really sick.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:50 PM

Wolves win 2-1
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:52 PM

Team as a whole, including Schroeder, just might not be all that great. Honest assessment. Thanks to our prospect pool being paper-thin.

Ice Hogs to Wolves are a good example of this. Not that the Pigs are awesome, but they are full of actual Hawks prospects. Wolves? Not so Canuck-heavy. Beyond Kassian there is no guaranteed NHL forward.

It's tough to take now because of all the sunshine blown up our butts from Gillis and Co. about prospect development.

The only more bloated and failed Canadian prospect development system is TO's. But even theirs might be better at this point. I would've included Cgy as well, but lately the Heat is doing a'ight.


Darren Haydar has been a point a game or close to player every season in the AHL except this one. He just got his first goal tonight...

Tim MIller has been a 0.5 PPG player in the past two seasons before this one. Now he has 3 points in 16 games.

Derek Joslin has been a 0.5 PPG or close to player every season in the AHL until now. He has 2 points in 18 games.

Andrew Ebbett has been a PPG player or close to every season in the AHL until now. He has 10 points in 19 games.

And that's just the veterans that are struggling. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that something's wrong with the team chemistry, the coaches, the systems, or maybe all of them.

It's not a coincidence that all these veterans are struggling at once. This team is one of the lowest goal scoring teams in the league, and is almost dead last on the PP and PK. That comes down to coaching no matter what way you wanna slice it.

Edited by DeNiro, 08 December 2012 - 08:54 PM.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:59 PM

Looking at the penalty summary, looks like this one was an old school brawl - Link . Too bad the illegal feed guy sucks!

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:04 PM

Looking at the penalty summary, looks like this one was an old school brawl - Link . Too bad the illegal feed guy sucks!


Miller and Beach had busy nights. :lol:

Beach is pretty much Rockford's version of Kassian.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 11:18 PM

chippy game, nice scrap by kconn.


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 11:27 PM

^^Wholly crap, Tanev was yapping at and pushed some guy in a scrum. What have you done with the real Tanev!
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 11:28 PM

Man, the Wolves should bring up that 6'8 guy they signed for Rockford games.

Also they should dump Desbiens and sign Bitz.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 11:35 PM

^^Wholly crap, Tanev was yapping at and pushed some guy in a scrum. What have you done with the real Tanev!


Hahahaha I thought he always has his mitts tied down too!


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After watching this game I think if we end up with a pick in the 15-25 range from the draft lottery, we need to draft Nikita Zadorov. 6'5 230lbs Russian D-man who plays like a tank but can skate and play well offensively too. He would complement our prospect pool greatly and add toughness.

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