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#1 mr.x

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:48 AM

He was bullied relentlessly for being gay in a hostile high-school environment, to the point that he tried to commit suicide twice. But as the saying goes, “it gets better.” It always does. This beautiful and inspirational story of one’s struggle to come out and accept his homosexual identity will move you to tears.

A very powerful, worthy must-read for everyone: https://www.facebook...222319324569761

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:14 AM

What a good story to wake up to. Good on him for discovering and accepting who he is. :)
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

Wow...that was very powerful.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:30 AM

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:51 AM

Wait, what? Catholic school is homophobic?
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 12:01 PM

You know, if you remove the word "gay" from that--sniffle--beautifully crafted essay, and replace it with some other word to signify an oppressed group or minority in a larger (and perceived hostile) majority of "others" (i.e. muslim in north america, christian in certain middle east countries, homosexual, tranny, dark skinned, albino, blah blah blah), you could literally construct the exact same story that i'm sure countless people experience day in, day out, using this author's formula and example set. it's weird to me that the author seems self conscious about being selfish, yet this story is just flogging the pretense of self reflexivity under the of guise of tangled cliche that nobody (other than a cynic or homophobe) could disagree with. a love letter to the converted: don't worry guys, here's my story. same as the old story.

THIS JUST IN: high school can be tough, and the realization that we are somehow individuals but not very unique is a very slow burn.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

You know, if you remove the word "gay" from that--sniffle--beautifully crafted essay, and replace it with some other word to signify an oppressed group or minority in a larger (and perceived hostile) majority of "others" (i.e. muslim in north america, christian in certain middle east countries, homosexual, tranny, dark skinned, albino, blah blah blah), you could literally construct the exact same story that i'm sure countless people experience day in, day out, using this author's formula and example set. it's weird to me that the author seems self conscious about being selfish, yet this story is just flogging the pretense of self reflexivity under the of guise of tangled cliche that nobody (other than a cynic or homophobe) could disagree with. a love letter to the converted: don't worry guys, here's my story. same as the old story.

THIS JUST IN: high school can be tough, and the realization that we are somehow individuals but not very unique is a very slow burn.


Gay suicide is a worldwide epidemic when you consider the fact that teenagers and young adults who identify themselves as homosexual are five times more likely to commit suicide than their heterosexual counterparts. What is even more troubling is that attempts by gay and lesbian youth and young adults account for 30% of all completed suicides. These numbers are beyond disturbing when you consider that the gay population, according to various studies, accounts for just between 3 to 10% of the entire general population, yet it takes in a significantly larger proportion of the total suicide count.


For you to say this isn't authentic or that the young gays are more troubled than their counterparts is concerning, even insulting.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 04:33 PM

Wait, what? Catholic school is homophobic?


They don't have to abide to Vancouver School Board criteria. In fact, they're not even part of the VSB but are part of the Archdiocese of Vancouver, which is part of the Vatican.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 06:08 PM

Gay suicide is a worldwide epidemic when you consider the fact that teenagers and young adults who identify themselves as homosexual are five times more likely to commit suicide than their heterosexual counterparts. What is even more troubling is that attempts by gay and lesbian youth and young adults account for 30% of all completed suicides. These numbers are beyond disturbing when you consider that the gay population, according to various studies, accounts for just between 3 to 10% of the entire general population, yet it takes in a significantly larger proportion of the total suicide count.


For you to say this isn't authentic or that the young gays are more troubled than their counterparts is concerning, even insulting.


i don't get what you're trying to say about me, or my post?

i don't think i commented on the suicide rate of homosexuals, nor did i comment on the authenticity of statistics related to that 'epidemic'

all i said is that misery can be found in all oppressed groups. and the story itself wasn't as touching or moving or tear inducing as its author (ahem, you?) marketed it to be. in fact, it read like a jumbo cliche, which is what i meant by other groups experiencing a similar (no less tragic) fate.

if you want to turn this into "my group is more oppressed than yours! and we kill ourselves more!" by all means, do it. but you're arguing with yourself, not me. like i said, preaching to the converted. i'm not sure there's a single legitimate homophobe around here.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 06:47 PM

Out of a handful of venues in Vancouver that are not at least somewhat gay friendly, he persisted in staying at one that isn't? Duh.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 07:00 PM

You know, if you remove the word "gay" from that--sniffle--beautifully crafted essay, and replace it with some other word to signify an oppressed group or minority in a larger (and perceived hostile) majority of "others" (i.e. muslim in north america, christian in certain middle east countries, homosexual, tranny, dark skinned, albino, blah blah blah), you could literally construct the exact same story that i'm sure countless people experience day in, day out, using this author's formula and example set. it's weird to me that the author seems self conscious about being selfish, yet this story is just flogging the pretense of self reflexivity under the of guise of tangled cliche that nobody (other than a cynic or homophobe) could disagree with. a love letter to the converted: don't worry guys, here's my story. same as the old story.

THIS JUST IN: high school can be tough, and the realization that we are somehow individuals but not very unique is a very slow burn.

Hmmm

Spoiler

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 07:18 PM

An uplifting and touching story indeed....

Edited by Bertuzzi Babe, 23 December 2012 - 10:07 AM.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:29 PM

Well said .. why am I not surprised that those doing the "pissing" are those who accuse folks of always looking at the "negative and tragic" in a story .. there accuracy seems to be off .. I suggest they consider sitting down to"piss" in the future .. that way they can avoid some of the "blowback" .. :rolleyes:




And before there are accussations of some sort of ridiculous formulae, you might also want to look at the comments posted. They know exactly which school was being talked about and they know how it's liked.

I went to a private all-boys school in Vancouver and I think we went to the same school, probably even the same grad class. Going through my own struggles during my time in high school, I can understand the adversity many students may face in this environment; the hallways and cafeteria of the school can be an unforgiving place, but to know that you were able to come out of that a better person with a greater perspective says a lot about your character.

If we did happen to go to the same school or be in the same grad class, I apologize for the hardships you endured on behalf of our peers, possibly even myself. Your story touches me and I am deeply moved by your ability to persevere. Be proud of who you are and what you have overcome. Maybe one day someone in a similar predicament will hear your story and it will inspire them to overcome their own internal struggles as welll.


I went to the same highschool as this contributor and although I am not gay and graduated from the highschool about 10 years before this guy, I must say, the school was indeed a challenging school to be gay in. A school where machismo is relatively paramount. Two of my grad class have since come out of the closet and thankfully, are well accepted in community and by the majority of the highschool alumni. I also loved my time at UBC and I'm so glad this young man, is having a much better time.


Edited by debluvscanucks, 23 December 2012 - 09:41 AM.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:42 AM

I don't discount that the guy had a hard time.

However considering this is a city where gay culture is almost mainstream, and that he probably had a lot of alternative options coming from what's almost certain to be a wealthy Westside family, all I can say is that he is appearantly neither a good decision maker nor able to handle adversity very well.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 10:55 AM

I don't discount that the guy had a hard time.

However considering this is a city where gay culture is almost mainstream, and that he probably had a lot of alternative options coming from what's almost certain to be a wealthy Westside family, all I can say is that he is appearantly neither a good decision maker nor able to handle adversity very well.


He was a goddamn child.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:04 AM

He's lucky to be living in a time and place where it's alright to be gay. Many before him have had to stay in the closet forever. It's those unheard stories that would be more 'touching', if we ever heard them.

Meanwhile, people are bullied in highschool for being gay everyday, whether they are or not, except now it's upgraded to cyberbullying.

I find that to be intolerable. Even though our society is more open than ever, it's clear that we have a long way to go.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:29 PM

An uplifting and touching story indeed....



First of all, no one cares that you think people are being obnoxious..They are entitled to their own opinion of the article..They do not have to find the article "touching". That's what a forum is for, discussion. Not being conformed to have a certain opinion because if they don't share your opinion they're obnoxious!!!
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 12:58 PM

Hmmm

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haha
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:58 PM

He was a goddamn child.


He wasn't a little kid neither was he living in a small hick town in some bygone era, it just doesn't seem to be the kind of circumstances where somebody would consider suicide as a first resort.
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:52 AM

People are shadowing others with a personal agenda that appears to be less about the topic at hand than it is about taking shots at one another. It's two sided, yes, but it needs to stop. There is an ignore button and I suggest it is used (or the warning button will be).

This is applicable:

They are entitled to their own opinion of the article..They do not have to find the article "touching". That's what a forum is for, discussion. Not being conformed to have a certain opinion because if they don't share your opinion they're obnoxious!!!


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:01 AM

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Edited by Shift-4, 23 December 2012 - 10:09 AM.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:16 AM

People are shadowing others with a personal agenda that appears to be less about the topic at hand than it is about taking shots at one another. It's two sided, yes, but it needs to stop. There is an ignore button and I suggest it is used (or the warning button will be).

This is applicable:


Commenting on the trolling being done in threads in off topic is 'shadowing others with a personal agenda'?

'That's what a forum is for, discussion'. Yet we are not free to point out or discuss when someone is deliberately trolling in threads that others are expressing heartfelt emotion in and being made fun of for doing so?

Perhaps this CDC board rule needs to be amended then?

Trolling and posting with intent to provoke other posters


And before all the anti-BB sentiments start flying in willy nilly - yes, I am guilty of that at times as well........usually in response to a shot fired across the bow........in response to obvious trolling by someone else.





First of all, no one cares that you think people are being obnoxious..They are entitled to their own opinion of the article..They do not have to find the article "touching". That's what a forum is for, discussion. Not being conformed to have a certain opinion because if they don't share your opinion they're obnoxious!!!


Have a lovely day, now.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:35 AM

Well if UBC doesn't workout I hear the davie street bus stop is hiring.




ZIIIING* Kidding of course... I like gay people and have gay family/friends. I would sleep with a lesbian (if attracted) and gladly live in a neighborhood full of gay men(which I do). The benefits of a straight guy living in a gay neighborhood far overcome the occasional harassment by the guys. A case of 'too much women, not enough me' lol.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:43 AM

I'm not sure what qualified as trolling in the first few posts to get so upset about. People coming up with differing opinions on the topic at hand instead of merely concurring with the OP isn't really trolling.

However, i think people around here need more Christmas spirit. Think about kittens. Meow. Less personal agendas.
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:53 AM

I'm not sure what qualified as trolling in the first few posts to get so upset about. People coming up with differing opinions on the topic at hand instead of merely concurring with the OP isn't really trolling.

However, i think people around here need more Christmas spirit. Think about kittens. Meow. Less personal agendas.


The cumulative effect, TO...... the sum of several posts, in several threads, all in the same vein.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 06:44 PM

That's basically an admission that you're not posting to add to the topic at hand but, rather, in targeting someone in relation to an ongoing feud.

It has to end somewhere and that time/place is now. Too many threads have been hijacked with this ridiculous battle so it's time to set that user to ignore. There is simply no excuse not to, in fairness to everyone else who does want to stay on topic.
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