Wetcoaster Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Pretty sure the thread topic isn't about how or why the NDP should replace the Liberials, it's about the Liberial Budget. Why does a comment on the Liberial party budget need to be about the NDP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 It doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 Of course it does. That was the point of the Michael Smyth column cited above. http://www.theprovin...5029/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Sure, I could have been clearer, you get what I'm saying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 So the question then is: Is that what they're doing? Why do you say so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 What else do you call selling off land to stop from going broke? It's like selling your house to pay for your groceries. It will work in the short term, but then you have nowhere to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 But this argument could be applied to any capital sale, and we already established that not all of them are bad. Why is this bad? Is it just because the government is running a deficit? Can no capital sales take place when there is a budget shortfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Sticking with the topic of the BC Budget. How many of you actually think this is a real balanced budget or like 72% of the BC residents surveyed by Ipos do you beleive this really isn't a truly balanced budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Sticking with the topic of the BC Budget. How many of you actually think this is a real balanced budget or like 72% of the BC residents surveyed by Ipos do you beleive this really isn't a truly balanced budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I don't think any government has ever released a truly accurate budget, including this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 A budget by definition is a forecast - the key is reasonableness of the assumptions of revenues and expenses. Of course the revenue side is much more of a wild card while the government has much more control over expenditures. What the BC NDP claims is that the Liberal assumptions are not reasonable while failing to show how they would have done things differently Until the fiscal year closes and all the actual accounting is done, one does not know for certain. Accuracy cannot be measured unless you are campaigning on past budgets that you claim are balanced when you know they are not. But who would do that?? Oh wait Glen Clark and the BC NDP during the notorious fudge-it budget scandal when he performed an amazing accounting sleight of hand... and his chief of staff was none other than.... wait for it.... ADRIAN DIX It was discovered, shortly after the election, that the claimed balanced budgets for the 1995-96 and 1996-97 fiscal years on which Clark had campaigned so strongly were not balanced but deficits. This was termed the "fudge-it" budget fiasco. Further as well as accounting for asset sales that were forecast Clark had massive debt shifted onto Crown Corporations so as to create a perception of "surpluses". http://www.davemanue...udge-it-budget/ And after the election when caught out? Clark asked for "wiggle room" - more like weasel room. Little else to say when you flat out lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Man you sure have a hate on for these guys. I could just as easily link to the past few Liberal budgets that were 'lies' but what's the point. You seem hell bent on reliving the 90's while ignoring the 2000's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Since one is constrained by the possible, not considering what the Bc NDP would propose in its place is critical to evaluating the BC Liberal budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Then give the NDP time, the Liberial budget hasn't been out very long. Do you expect the NDP to have instant answers or would you prefer the party to carefully review all the numbers and after more thought and consultation put forward an alternative at a later date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Well, I know that I don't speak for the masses here, but as far as I'm concerned, if you come out and say something is bad for the province, you must have done some research into the situation. It should also follow that you have an opinion on how, or what could be done differently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Man you sure have a hate on for these guys. I could just as easily link to the past few Liberal budgets that were 'lies' but what's the point. You seem hell bent on reliving the 90's while ignoring the 2000's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 fair enough... like you I can't speak for everyone but personally for me I know I can tell if something is good or bad pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 I have lived through past BC NDP administrations (Barrett and Harcourt/Clark/Miller/Dosanjh) and witnessed first hand the devastation to this province. There was very good reason the BC NDP were decimated and reduced two two seats in the 2001 BC general election. I have no wish to see that level of damage inflicted on this province again. One of the main power players in the BC NDP's scandalous fall from grace in 2001 was Adrian Dix - and he's baaaaaacccck and he leads the NDP. And what about my posts are factually inaccurate? Also as I have pointed out this spills into current times. We are already paying billions for the abandonment of BC's interests in respect of aboriginal land claims and now BC taxpayers are about to be hit with a bill for hundreds of millions if not billions due to the manipaulation of the California energy market by BC Hydro - an agency that was politicized under the NDP and which had Glen Clark's hands on approach through his trusty sidekick Adrian Dix. As I have posted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Whatever, I await the next time you repost the same tired quotes and posts you always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Hard to argue with facts, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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