Is there any legitimate proof to this? Hodgson's in his second full year of his NHL career, just like Kassian. He'd be on pace for a 60 pt season in 82 games so your whole 40-50 pts projection already goes out the window. There is definite room for Cody to improve his game, especially since he's 23 years old.
Just want to ask here: do you understand what "average" means in the sense it was being used? Who cares if Hodgson gets 1000 points in a single season? I was addressing the average over his career, not what he has achieved for this or any other single season.
As to Hodgson improving his game, sure there is a chance. He might get to play with line mates who will bring up both his point totals (as has happened in Buffalo) and drop his +/- (as was the case in Vancouver). This being said, he had two years when he was in the Canucks system (not counting the time he spent in juniors after he was drafted in '08), and while his offensive skill was never really in doubt, sadly his lack of defensive ability was also never in doubt, as shown by his time in Buffalo.
Hopefully, in the future, Hodgson will be paired with a couple of really slow guys, so it will look like he's become a faster skater.
Kassian is in a similar position but the worry about him is that he hasn't shown much of anything thus far to prove that he will be a legitimate top-six forward in the NHL. He had that decent stretch in the first 10 games but he only has 1 pt in his last 20 games. He's slow, below-average defensively and hasn't really shown that he has the hands to constantly put up the points in the big leagues.
If you base everything purely off of projections, Cody is likely going to be like a Jason Allison while Zack will likely end up being like a Ben Eager or a more-physical Steve Bernier. Kassian doesn't have the hands, the vision or the speed that someone like Bertuzzi did.
Yeah, except you are basing your projections for Kassian on fewer games than Hodgson has played.
What has Kassian done in his first 80 games (not counting tonight's game - 1 goal for Kassian)? 10 goals and 9 assists.
What has Hodgson done in his first 80 games? 16 goals and 18 assists. I got the Hodgson numbers by adding the results of his first nine game with Buffalo to what he did while he was with the Canucks (71 games). Fun fact: Hodgson dropped from being a +8 to a +4 in those first nine games.
I'm assuming that you are counting on a late growth spurt for Hodgson to become the next Jason Allison. Kassian looks like he is on track to put up comparable numbers to what Bertuzzi did at his age. NOTE: I'm not saying that Kassian will be the next Bertuzzi, just that his development to date is comparable.
THIS! OH HELL YEAH! Thank you.
You folks are so, so... excitable
Cody doesn't have a ceiling, if he keeps working hard, particularly on his skating and defensive game then why can't he get more than 60 points a season and be a threat in the playoffs? His shot and vision are already dangerous to the opposing team. Yeah, they could intimidate him but he'll learn to sidestep the hit or just take it ...
And just how do you know that Hodgson doesn't have a ceiling? He hasn't improved his skating, or his defensive game this past season with Buffalo, and this was his big chance to show what he's got. This says to me that he isn't a better a player than what he was considered to be while he was with the Canucks: good offensive talent, bad defense, no physicality, not particularly fast on his skates.
... or the coach will put a big guy on his line to help protect him.
Are you saying that you agree with what AV was doing when he had Hodgson on a line with guys like Weise? Good for you! Apparently Buffalo is taking your advice to heart and have promoted Hodgson to their bottom-6 where he can get more protection.
Kassian's ceiling is incredibly low because he has never shown good decision-making skills or work ethic. Guy just floats on the ice waiting for people to give him the puck so he can be a power forward and gain the line (or in his case, be poke-checked).
I'll be concerned about Kassian's supposed lack of "good decision-making skills or work ethic" after another couple of years of NHL experience. He has shown he can work hard towards a goal, as seen by his off-ice regimen this summer.
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