J529 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/mla-john-horgan-expected-to-run-for-b-c-ndp-leadership-1.2575632 Victoria-area MLA John Horgan is expected to announce plans to run for the leadership of the B.C. NDP in his Langford riding this evening, setting the stage for a partial rematch in the race. Horgan will be running against veteran MLA Mike Farnworth. Both fought for the job in 2011, but eventually lost to current leader Adrian Dix. After Dix announced he was stepping down last September, Horgan was considered a likely candidate for the leadership, but instead he announced he was stepping aside to allow room for new younger candidates. But since that time none have come forward, and Horgan could have a solid shot at winning. The only other candidate in the race is Farnworth, who announced he was running earlier this month. Horgan is considered to be more pro-economic development than current leader Adrian Dix, and has already talked about re-examining Dix's decision to oppose the expansion of the Kinder Morgan oil pipeline. Horgan was first elected in 2005, but worked behind the scenes when the NDP was in power in the 1990's. The party will pick its new leader in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Farnworth is who they SHOULD have gone with LAST time. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Farnworth is who they SHOULD have gone with LAST time. Idiots. The problem with Farnworth is he too is also linked to 90's NDP. No question he's superior speaker and overall compared to Dix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Still not sure how they lost the last election when the Liberals virtually handed it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Still not sure how they lost the last election when the Liberals virtually handed it to them. Dix is idiot and failure as leader, along with his past, flip flopping on Kinder Morgan and wouldn't go negative. Along with NDP is joke of party Polls were false and BS General public are dumb as fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Pretty much that ^^^ Mostly I blame the parties own incompetence for not being able to pick an electable leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Sarcasm Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Dix is idiot and failure as leader, along with his past, flip flopping on Kinder Morgan and wouldn't go negative. Along with NDP is joke of party Polls were false and BS General public are dumb as frack This is joke of post. Are you not a member of the general public? I certainly am, but I'm not "dumb as frack". The NDP losing that election will be in text books for a couple of generations. It was epic, laughable, and frankly, awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Pretty much that ^^^ Mostly I blame the parties own incompetence for not being able to pick an electable leader. That too. I still can't believe how NDP put someone as leader like Dix with his history. Goes to show how bush league and what joke the party is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 This is joke of post.Are you not a member of the general public? I certainly am, but I'm not "dumb as frack".The NDP losing that election will be in text books for a couple of generations. It was epic, laughable, and frankly, awesome.The NDP lost that election based on a number of things.1. Dix and Sihota were the titular heads as it was left over from the mess of the 90's including funny spending, fast cats, scandals and legal issues as well as were the subjects of the unending attack ads both back then and now by the Libs and the then Conservative Alliance party of BC.2. The Libs promised everything people wanted and gave them the illusion of wealth by lying through their teeth about LNG revenue (which as EVERYONE with half a brain stated was a lie and will never be realized) while the NDP took a strong stance that people got behind then immediately flopped on not two weeks before the election. This coupled with those self same attack ads gave people the incentive they needed to switch back to the proverbial devil they knew.3. A lot of the NDP runners had this almost entitled mentality where they really didn't try as hard as they could have. The moniker of "the honest working party" was thrown out the window by that air of entitlement in their belief that the people of BC would just vote them in because "they weren't the Libs"A number of factors came in to play to lose the NDP that election. And it is troubling because some of the candidates the NDP ran truly did care but were beaten by their leaders own stupidity and the public's stupidity as well.Here in Penticton we were promised a hospital tower and hospital renovation. instead what we have is the former mayor promising us a tower only to give us a $2.4 million business plan which now is costing more than $4 million. While Clarke herself lost the election in her own riding and took her time running somewhere else against an opponent who had literally no chance at all based on the location and historical voting of the riding.The NDP helped themselves lose the election but the general public's own stupidty and timidity helped and now we are stuck.Horgan I don't know enough about to say anything good or ill. But as it stands with Christy I've only worked 3 months in 2 and 1/2 years Clarke....he cannot do any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 The NDP helped themselves lose the election but the general public's own stupidty and timidity helped and now we are stuck. I didn't vote for either of those parties (another reasons the Liberals won IMO) and it wasn't out of stupidity or timidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Sarcasm Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I didn't vote for either of those parties (another reasons the Liberals won IMO) and it wasn't out of stupidity or timidity. Nothing timid about voting outside the social norms, especially when you know it's unlikely to result in anything favorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 The NDP lost that election based on a number of things. 1. Dix and Sihota were the titular heads as it was left over from the mess of the 90's including funny spending, fast cats, scandals and legal issues as well as were the subjects of the unending attack ads both back then and now by the Libs and the then Conservative Alliance party of BC. 2. The Libs promised everything people wanted and gave them the illusion of wealth by lying through their teeth about LNG revenue (which as EVERYONE with half a brain stated was a lie and will never be realized) while the NDP took a strong stance that people got behind then immediately flopped on not two weeks before the election. This coupled with those self same attack ads gave people the incentive they needed to switch back to the proverbial devil they knew. 3. A lot of the NDP runners had this almost entitled mentality where they really didn't try as hard as they could have. The moniker of "the honest working party" was thrown out the window by that air of entitlement in their belief that the people of BC would just vote them in because "they weren't the Libs" A number of factors came in to play to lose the NDP that election. And it is troubling because some of the candidates the NDP ran truly did care but were beaten by their leaders own stupidity and the public's stupidity as well. Here in Penticton we were promised a hospital tower and hospital renovation. instead what we have is the former mayor promising us a tower only to give us a $2.4 million business plan which now is costing more than $4 million. While Clarke herself lost the election in her own riding and took her time running somewhere else against an opponent who had literally no chance at all based on the location and historical voting of the riding. The NDP helped themselves lose the election but the general public's own stupidty and timidity helped and now we are stuck. Horgan I don't know enough about to say anything good or ill. But as it stands with Christy I've only worked 3 months in 2 and 1/2 years Clarke....he cannot do any worse. Horgan would be the best choice for leader as he's fresh, doesn't have baggage, great speaker, tough and isn't linked to 90's NDP unless you consider working behind the scenes as such. So much for Liberals great jobs plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 I didn't vote for either of those parties (another reasons the Liberals won IMO) and it wasn't out of stupidity or timidity. Protest vote and not having another option. Greens are no better, living in fantasy land and voting for them is complete waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Waste of what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Waste of what? A waste as Greens will never become government and it was fluke they even won a seat, just like federally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Sarcasm Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I get it. The democratic process is a farce. LEMMINGS ONLY - free thinking folk need not apply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 A waste as Greens will never become government and it was fluke they even won a seat, just like federally. So who should I have voted for? (I never said I voted Green FWIW.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Doesn't matter whose in charge as long as they're kept out of office. Any party that penalizes success and rewards incompetence is doomed to fail. Buying union votes with tax dollars while taxing the ass off anyone who has the nerve to be successful didn't work out very well in Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J529 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 So who should I have voted for? (I never said I voted Green FWIW.) Far be it for me to tell you or anyone else to how you should have voted. I was just putting it out there about Greens. All parties are the same as they fuck us over in the end. It's case of which parties is lesser of two evils. That aside, there's no way Liberals should have been re-elected. 16 years is way too long for this party to be government, along with their corruption, lies, destroying people's lives, breaking contracts, BS, etc. is rewarded with re-election and all of that has been erased and slated wipe clean. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Far be it for me to tell you or anyone else to how you should have voted. I was just putting it out there about Greens. All parties are the same as they frack us over in the end. It's case of which parties is lesser of two evils. That aside, there's no way Liberals should have been re-elected. 16 years is way too long for this party to be government, along with their corruption, lies, destroying people's lives, breaking contracts, BS, etc. is rewarded with re-election and all of that has been erased and slated wipe clean. What a joke. You alone don't get to decide what any party (or voter) does I'm afraid. Who said the slate is wiped clean or anything erased? There was simply more people who felt that the corrupt Liberals were a better (or less bad) option compared to the incompetent NDP. The real problem is not having any viable party worth voting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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