Biff Tannen
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Maybe I'm missing something, but if Tanner is back and only Poolman is on LTIR the current roster is nearly $2.5m over the cap. Given the maximum buriable is $1.15m they'd need to send 3 players down leaving a roster of 22 including Mikeyev. Would need to send another down to fit Podz on the team too. All the players on Cap Friendly's roster would need to clear waivers, though I'm not convinced our waifs are that appealing to other teams anyway.
So technically they can be compliant but it doesn't leave a lot of room. Guessing they are going to make a move, but doesn't necessarily have to happen before day 1.
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Cor Benn! Dallas?
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18 hours ago, Neutral said:
Gagner may be ready to retire but having a chance to put on the jersey of the team that drafted him one last time to end his career on his terms be it on a PTO but not earning an NHL contract. It would still allow him to likely get some pre season games where he could wear the Edmonton uniform and kind of ride of into the sunset on his own terms with the team that granted him his childhood dream of becoming a NHL player and making millions along the way!!!
Congrats to Sam for carving out a solid NHL career and making millions to setup up his family for generations hopefully!
He holds the Edmonton record for most points in a single game does he not...that is impressive considering Wayne Gretzky kind of has all the records!!!
He was an early 1st round pick, was just a fluke that Edmonton drafted him, he would've got a chance at the NHL regardless and he doesn't owe Coilers anything. He wants another contract, if he's not signed that won't be leaving on his terms.
Maybe I'm just being a downer but hoping for unearned generational wealth seems a bit weird too.
Also he tied that record with 99
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18 hours ago, Drakrami said:
Better prospects than Woo have slipped through the waivers. But then again, we have Gadjovich get claimed. So i'd say no one knows, it's 50/50 lol...
Fair point. In my addled brain I thought Gadjovich had played much more than 1 game for Van, but internet says otherwise. Maybe PA is playing 4D chess and the only reason Woo wasn't called up last season was to sneak him through waivers this year.
Incidently, I'm assuming Jonah's 17 PIM/GP is a Canucks record?
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1 hour ago, Alflives said:
Yup. Woo will almost certainly get claimed.
Will he though? I hope Woo can become an NHLer, but at this point he's doing okay in the AHL and hasn't even made his debut for the big club. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't imagine there will be that long a queue for him until he's proven at this level.
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Tiger EP Bure
Lumme Bieksa
McLean
Miller's probably the superior goalie, but better memories from Kirk' s era. Plus I couldn't bear leaving money on the table.
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1 hour ago, Iron Fist said:
out of the 2024 UFA Defenseman not playing for contenders. There's Going to be Tyler Myers, Noah Hanifan, Nikita Zaitsev, Tyson Barrie, Chris Tanev, Nikita Zadorov, Shayne Gostisbehere, and Brendan Dillon available at the deadline. Hanifan probably traded and signed before the season starts. At the trade deadline for contenders looking at adding a 6th or 7th defensemen, out of the above mentioned names Myers @ 3M should be in demand.
Hmmm, maybe if Myers has a great season up until the TDL but I don't see it tbh. We'll revisit this in the Spring, if it turns out I'm wrong and he gets more than a 3rd I owe you a Coke.
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9 hours ago, Iron Fist said:
Myers with 50% retained can bring a late 2nd
From who?
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2 minutes ago, Alflives said:
Interesting (and ironic) that our new Beau is actually a much better fit with us than old Bo is with the Islanders. New Beau is on a 4.1 mil cap and old Bo is on an 8.5 mil cap.
I'd be willing to swap them back, with retention on their end of course
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16 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:
Giving away any of those players is a dumb idea, they have value contrary to belief on here.
Beau was a cap dump when we acquired him, nothing has changed since. Brock and Garland are slightly overpaid for what they bring, in a flat cap world that's a big issue. If management could've got assets for any of them they'd be gone already.
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4 hours ago, Dazzle said:But right now, he desperately needs help.
That's a pretty big assumption on your part. He might need help, he might be having an amazing amount of fun. I don't know either way
4 hours ago, Dazzle said:Some people on Reddit mentioned that
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7 hours ago, Rounoush said:
Maybe Marty misjudged Biff. What a helpful guy.
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20 minutes ago, Baggins said:
Nope. A second buyout period, before the start of the season, was allowed only in the first two years of the CBA so teams could adjust to that new contract. That was for 2013 and 2014 seasons only.
Nope nope. I think you're confusing the compliance buyouts with arbitration buyouts.
QuoteBuyouts Outside of the Regular Period
Clubs whom have 1 or more arbitration filings may be permitted to perform a buyout outside of the regular window. This gives teams another opportunity to become cap compliant following an arbitration case.
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11 minutes ago, Citizen Erased said:
Yeah, that’s what I believe. It’s the salaries keeping them Canucks. They obviously have some skill and value, but nowhere near what they are being paid.
I don't think Garland and Boeser are too far off market value, but it's enough to make them tough to move. Myers obviously is but, in JB's defence, the timing of his signing was quite unlucky. At the beginning of 19-20 the cap was 81.5m, it's now 83.5m a rise of less than 2.5%. If the cap had gone up by the same amount as the years leading up to that season it would now be over $94m and there'd be an extra $340m potentially on offer across the league. Obviously not all teams spend to the cap, but the floor raises would be proportionate. In my alternate universe they'd all be movable or maybe even worth keeping. Would still be crazy to trade for OEL in 2021 though.
Basically, through the power of maths, I've discovered that something really bad happened in 2019-20 that really screwed the Canucks cap management. As soon as I work out what it was someone's going to pay.
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2 hours ago, -AJ- said:
Big AHL salary. Will miss him in Abby, but I can see why he went for that. Utica will treat him well.
Wasn't he on a 1-way in Van? Not that he was necessarily offered that again, but potentially a 250k wage cut. Still has more money than I'll ever see, so he'll probably be alright.
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2 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said:
For an organization that has players that no one will trade for. It seems a lot of Ex-Canucks seem to be in demand.
The question is will Yzer-plan work out long term?
Not sure depth players signing league minimum contracts really screams 'in demand' and I don't get how they have any relevance to Boeser, Myers, or Garland who are paid 6-9x as much.
Bold prediction - most/all of these ex-Canucks will be available on (and probably pass through) waivers.
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4 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:
He'll be 30 when he signs his 7-8 year deal. He's getting $6 million+. Hronek at $7 million+. Hughes at $10 million+ plus in 4 years. Where is the money coming from to fit all these guys? And where is Willander going to play, on the 3rd pairing? Why bother drafting a stud RHD who projects as a top pairing guy if you are just going to overpay for a 30 year old in free agency?
If we were actually going to trade for Pesce, we should have drafted Matthew Wood instead...
28+1=29
Though I still wouldn't trade for him.
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6 hours ago, RWJC said:
He doesn’t have to prove anything. He was bought out because his previous salary wasnt commensurate with his output, but his current output when healthy is within the range of a 3.5 mill Dman, provided he’s tasked with less TOI than he was here.
People making him out to be such dead weight are reaching. He’s still a very sound positioning 2 way Dman with decent speed and a good eye and shot on the PP. The question is can he continue to tolerate wear and tear. I’d add him at 3 - 3.5 simply to hedge a bet that he’s also an LTIR candidate which could prove very beneficial if required to parlay into legal cap circumvention.
I don't think you understand how LTIR works. Unless JB gets hired somewhere, I can't see OEL getting close to $3.5m this season.
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21 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:
Well if the players don't get it it's gotta go somewhere.
Yeah, obviously. This is probably not the place to explain how I'd reorganise the whole of society, but if I could control the NHL all the teams would be owned by the fans, ticket prices would be affordable, beer would be under $10, and the games would be on free TV. Players would still earn a good living and their would be more connection between the team, the fans, and the wider community. As an added bonus FA, Bettman et al could all f off.
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2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said:
I always take issue with this statement, why should the players who actually put their bodies on the line get capped while the billionaire owners get to keep the rest and just get richer?
You always take issue with what statement? I'm not saying the owners should get paid millions of dollars either. I don't think anyone should be paid $8m a year, but I'd rather JT got it than Aqulini. Millionaire sportsmen and billionaire owners are both symptoms of our dysfunctional society, but the owner class are far more egregious and undesirable.
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9 hours ago, EastCoastNucks said:
I am surprised how much support there is for this contract, He ain't no Pavel Bure or Marcus Naslund.... Wish what we could see the Sedin's think of this contract. you all realize its till the end of this decade? kinda like the OEL contract when the yotes puffed that into existence?
In 2005 Naslund signed a 3x6m contract. Obviously it's a much shorter deal, but he was a couple of years older and already past his prime. At the time the cap was only $39m so, assuming my quick calculations are correct, that would be $12.8m today.
Bure signed a 5x5m deal in 1994. Pre-salary cap so not really comparable but even if he signed the exact deal in 2005 he'd still be getting close to $11m as a proportion of the 23-24 cap. Realistically he'd probably get closer to $7m at the beginning of the cap era, which would work out as $15m today.
So yeah JT ain't no Naslund or Bure and that's why he's getting two thirds of their money. Personally I don't think anyone should get $8m a year, but in today's NHL Miller's contract is fine.
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2 hours ago, coolboarder said:
I would take a hard pass, but wouldn't mind signing him at the minimum and if he doesn't perform, easily waive him and send him to minors without a cap hit attached to our salary cap situation.
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13 hours ago, Canuck You said:
Nice to see us finally building with-in...The future looks bright , The past has been very dark
Yeah I hated how JB never signed his 1st round picks to ELC
/s
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9 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said:
Well he's left-handed - which makes him a genius...
Or he's doing something more important with his right hand...
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[PTO] Olli Juolevi with Coyotes
in Trades, Rumours, Signings
Posted · Edited by Biff Tannen
(Also I worry that third line is going to draw a lot of Too Many Men on the Ice penalties)
Without going down the rabbit hole that is the butterfly effect, wouldn't that roster be about $15m over the cap?
But yeah Virtanen >>>>>>>>>>> Juolevi in terms of disappointment on and off the ice.