Biff Tannen
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43 minutes ago, HKSR said:
Yes. Whoever came out with this rumour is stupid.
Buying out Garland is a 6 year dead cap hit!
2023-24 - 839k
2024-25 - 839k
2025-26 - 1.8m
2026-27 - 1.9m
2027-28 - 1.9m
2028-29 - 1.9m
Why the ____ would the Canucks do that?
You could retain $1.25M on his $4.95M cap hit to make him a $3.7M cap player. He would DEFINITELY bring assets back at that price.
Not only that, you'd only have dead cap for 3 years instead of 6:
2023-24 - $1.25
2024-25 - $1.25
2025-26 - $1.25
So this whole thread is pointless.
If the Canucks did buyout Garland, their cap strategist needs to be fired on the spot.
EDIT: You know who should and could be bought it? Riley "Tank Commander" Stillman.
Dead Cap:
2023-24 - 225k
2024-25 - 225k
Saves over $1M in cap per season.
Why would you do that? Stillman's contract ends in 2024, cap relief for 23/24 is $1,150,000 so his hit would be $200k for one season and we'd have an AHL player.
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1 hour ago, CanuckRookieFan said:
Aqua isn't going to pay someone $3 mill a year LOL good luck with that. 3 mill is like 10% of the Canucks entire annual profit, you will never get an owner to throw away 10% margin on a buy out get real.
Where are you getting your profit figures from?
Using your logic no team would ever buy a player out. Since the buyout counts against the cap and the team has been consistently spending very close to it I can't see how it would affect the profits anyway. If a buyout makes a team better it makes sense from both a hockey and business sense to do. That said I hope they don't, OEL is overpaid but the dead cap from a buyout would be worse in the long run.
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30 minutes ago, Crimson-JH said:
Jayson Megna
Jaycob Megna
Man, no wonder we get confused on who’s whos…
I blame their parents for creating similar forenames!
Yeah IIRC it's cos their dad is called Jay. Feels narcissistic and/or insecure to me, but maybe they're just lazy. I wonder if there's a Jaynifer or Jayquiline Megna too?
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On 1/30/2023 at 10:53 PM, hockeygod77 said:
YOU JUST TRADED THE BEST CANUCK HISTORY..DUMB MOVE
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On 1/28/2023 at 7:35 AM, *Buzzsaw* said:
Yep, has to be REAL drunk otherwise.
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On 1/28/2023 at 6:02 PM, kilgore said:
YOU HAVE MADE OTHER POSTS ON CDC HERE AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW....I HAVEN'T READ ANY OF THEM. TOO PAINFUL ON THE EYES. DO YOU HAVE A BROKEN KEY BOARD OR JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE CAPS LOCK WORKS? AT FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS YOUR SCHTICK BEING THE HOCKEYGOD SHOUTING FROM THE HEAVENS BUT BASED ON THE RELEVANCE AND SUBSTANCE OF YOUR POSTS YOU CLEARLY ARE A JUNIOR CLERK IN THE CELESTIAL HOCKEY OFFICES JUST USING THEIR EQUIPMENT ON WEEKENDS WHEN THEY ARE AWAY
I've made the effort a couple of times but I think it's safe to say you're not missing anything
On this occasion I forced myself to slog through it again because I thought I'd misread it the first time. Contrary to the thread title, CANUCKS ARE ACTUALLY TOUGH BUT (for some undefined reason) THEY CHOOSE NOT TOO BE MOST OF THE TIME.
Urgh, stupid all-star break
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40 minutes ago, CanucksJay said:
This is where I have major problems with how sports teams are run.
These guys are supposed to be the best but we have an ex nhl goalie from wayyyy back in the day as a president of a company making multimillion dollar decisions.
Its a common theme.... Benning ex defensemen.
Most are all ex players.
Why?
No disrespect but athletes aren't exactly at the top of the intelligence tree so why are they making decisions with 80m budgets?
fine, we have the top 1% of ex players in intelligence who made it into the executive team of an NHL club but why the hell is the pool of applicants selected from ex players?
The amount of buyouts and "sweeteners" needed in trades to get rid of mistakes is staggering. But this happens with every team
Imagine I told my boss "oops" on wasting 6m, 7.3m, 6.75m and 8m for multiple years?
Thats on top of all the other oops... On an 80m budget no less...
Not only would I lose my job but I probably wouldn't be working in the industry as I would be the laughing stock and no other firm will hire me.
Yet we take these guys and recycle them. It's absolutely stupid.
I make fun of Dubas but I would take my chances on 5 Kyle Dubas run teams over 5 random NHL teams run by an ex player
We celebrate guys like Yzerman and Sakic but they are literally beating up on idiots...
They look great because the rest of the talent pool is unqualified.
Like how did Milbury last so many years?
I dont think you need an ex nhl player to run a team.
You need a genius who eats breaths and sleeps hockey, is innovative in how they look at advanced stats (to back up the eye test) and is first and foremost a smart guy rather than a guy who played in the NHL.
I think you've stumbled across a deeper truth. The people at the top aren't actually any better than you, me or Rutherford. Just a cabal of privileged, lucky, and/or obsequious douches. Ultimately we're relying on the 'wisdom' of Aquilani to pick the right person so might as well lean towards people with professional hockey experience.
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1 hour ago, CanuckRookieFan said:
Fans need to put this tanking debate to rest, NHL's official director Bettman went on record saying no one tanks and tanking doesn't work. That's an official statement from the top of the NHL, I really hope people don't lose sight of authority and learn to trust words of their top brass if you don't have trust you have nothing. Bettman who is essentially the voice of the league said tanking doesn't exist, as far as we are concerned thats that, unless you actually think a top representative would lie to your face then you got bigger trust issues than the tanking debate.
Congrats on your shitposting it really is impressive. Shame you went ott with this one, but up until now I really wasn't sure if you were serious.
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“We didn’t just hire him for his popularity of course. He knows a lot about brain injuries and how to avoid them! Or not avoid them!”
Seems legit
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2 hours ago, lmm said:
well I STAND CORRECTED
I wonder if John William Kirton a nd Alfred Lord Tennyson got roundly and regularly criticized for yelling in print?
btw I am a fan of Alf Lord Tennyson
I think Kirton added the capitalization as the book is more about reading and oration. The fact he added the explainer suggests it was fairly novel at the time but maybe there are earlier examples which are harder to find or use as citations.
Conveniently I live with a doctor of 19th century literature, I'll see if she has an earlier source. Sorry for hijacking this otherwise great thread.
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8 hours ago, lmm said:
that may be true, but the concept of CAPITALS BEING YELLING is pretty new age and millennial
I find it funny that there is always one or two posts to point it out every time someone used CAPS
it falls into the "I am offended by your CAPS, so I cannot understand your post"
sometimes I post in caps by accident, and am just too lazy to fix it
You sure about that?
The Standard Speaker and Elocutionist
By John William Kirton · 1880
Personally I find paragraphs of all caps really difficult to read even if it's otherwise well written. In hockeygod's case it kinda fits with their style i suppose.
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24 minutes ago, hockeygod77 said:
OK FOR THE SOFTER FANS capital letter large letters who cares..im not into that new millennium trash..i will type smalll here to please the canuck fans who probably dont even understand the game at this level...its a business its a goal to fill the stands and win the cup..sell jerseys make money end of that...but as a canuck fan sure id love them to win a cup once and for all...but reality is there so many teams every year trying to the same thing...super bowl stanley cup world series etc..one team only and ya i know its hard..Here is one thing i ask for from rutherford alvin tocchet ..play some good hard nose hockey and play hard at home...dont worry about what will happen next..they play like they are just pro hockey guys that will do their jobs and provide me as a fan good hockey to watch..not into the drama trades free agent news coaching changes etc..tired of it i dont really care now..i just want to see good hockey ...crazy hockey tough hockey highlight reel goal hockey...if not i will just keep watch junior hockey...too much drama and not enough effort into just keeping it simple and playing like they should...THATS ALL
How old are you? Lower case letters have been around for over 1000 years, might not seem long to a hockey god but us mortals are kinda used to them.
As for Tocchet... not convinced he's the right person for the job but we're stuck with him for a while so hopefully I'm wrong.
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3 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:
One of the best defence core vs. one of the worst defence core.
Bit harsh, some of the Tampa D-men are ok
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3 hours ago, CanuckRookieFan said:
As a business owner and CEO of my business I am constantly re-evaluating my expenses, revenues and bottom line profits.
As a smart business man Aqua is not in a rush to part with his money on a losing proposition, so ask your selves oh wise Canucks fans, why would he ever, ever buy out OEL or anyone else? Giving up 5 mill a year or more to pay players just to leave?
In retro spec that $5 mill give away represents a cool 10% profit margin for the entire year of the organization. He would be losing $5 mill right off the top, no thanks no smart business owner would do that to his margins.
2022 and 2023 been exceptional for Auqa in profits, not only is gate revenue up, he has signed an incredible TD sponsorship deal, his radio deal closed, Rogers TV deal continues to offer revenue, new digital boards bring more cash to Aqua than ticket sales do, then you add traditional in risk advertisements, add merchandise, food sales, parking. AQUA doesn't need to appeal to the couch GMs on here because he doesn't want to part with $5 mill, who would
For what just a small cap benefit so the team can be a little more competitive over the same years as he is losing $5 mill per? If I had to choose between profits and a winning team I'll still take profits, it's a no brainer I hope you see it how I see it I am siding with Aqua on this.
Maybe I'm missing something, but Canucks are consistently spending to the cap so why would buying out OEL cost Aqua $5m? The buyout counts against the cap and the cap hit is actually slightly larger than the cost, so arguably it would save him over $1m.
I don't think buying out OEL would be a good idea yet, but I also don't understand your figures.
In retro spec, when you say business owner and CEO so you mean sole trader?
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2 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said:
He's nudged himself up from 17th worst +/- player to being tied with Brock B. for 37th worst player in the entire National Hockey league out of all 830 skaters. That ought to bump up his trade value .....a bit.
Kane
O'Reilly
Brayden Schenn
Gaudreau
Klingberg
Zegras
Tarasenko
Lucky we don't have these scrubs who all have worse +/- than JT. It's almost like playing a lot of minutes on a bottom feeder is bad.
On the plus side we off loaded Dickinson who's currently worse than any Canuck.
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10 minutes ago, 73 Percent said:
Were you not implying that the reason he's only been playing two games is performance related?
Because it's most certainly not.
No. I wasn't, but I'm not going to speculate as to what's going on in his personal life as it's irrelevant since there isn't the cap space.
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16 minutes ago, 73 Percent said:
Wrong.
The reason he's only played 2 games all season because he is in the player assistance program.
What was wrong?
He's played 2 games and is on a big contract (which we couldn't afford, even if we wanted to).
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20 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
It’s not gonna be as high as people want.
And contrary to popular belief you do need to keep some vets on the team.
Cap space is the most valuable thing this team can gain right now, not picks and prospects.
It never is. But... are you suggesting "selling" OEL, Myers, Pearson, Boeser, JT, Poolman, Garland, and Mikheyev? Most of them have negative value, especially given how tight the cap is across the league.
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5 minutes ago, 73 Percent said:
Have to claim this guy.
2 hours ago, RakuRaku said:Ya but we would wanna have him on third line than say... Dries!
Dermott is back so our D isn't the biggest concern now
There's a reason he's only played 2 games all season, and it's not just injuries. Plus he's on £5.25m compared to Dries who's on league minimum and Nucks are right against the cap.
So um, no.
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10 minutes ago, Shayster007 said:
So you're saying you CAN trade a player directly after signing a new deal... Hmmmm... Interesting. Verrrry interesting.
On the one hand, 6 months into a 4 year contract with no protection and signed about 15 months ago. On the other an 8 year contract with heavy protection, signed 4 months ago, that doesn't start until July.
For better or worse, JT will probably be in Vancouver for a while.
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Just exchange numbers, I reckon you'll hit it off in person.
Let us know how it goes.
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5 hours ago, IBatch said:
By the time they are 31-33ish .. 33 being the Sedins last deal, the pair will cost us 15-16% of the cap combined, compared to 21.8%...and it will continue to go down at a higher rate then when it did with the Sedins (even a 4% increase of 90 million is significantly more then a 4% increase at 70ish million correct?)
Maybe it's petty to pick at a minor mathematical error but I went ahead and assumed your question wasn't rhetorical.
Since you already converted their salaries to percentages they would go down at the same rate. In fact I think the higher initial % of cap (ie the Sedins in this case) would actually drop by more percentage points because the reduction would be proportional to that percentage.
Hmmm I'm not sure I've explained it very well and I'm starting to doubt my own maths.
I agree long term the contract will probably be fine, I'm slightly more worried in the short term but I hope you're right.
Oh and I just remembered this is the Severson thread. He's pretty good albeit somewhat gaffe prone, if he was some how brought in as a Myers replacement that'd be grand.
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3 hours ago, DeNiro said:
Gotta wonder how Czechs and Russians would mix right now. That would be my only concern.
I know these guys aren’t exactly tied to those issues as much but can’t ignore the fact that Czechs hate Russians with a passion.
Seriously? If I said what I really think about this I'd probably get banned but what are you basing any of this on?
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(Speculation) Conor Garland buyout this Summer?
in Trades, Rumours, Signings
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Sending him to the AHL saves $1.15m next season and costs nothing the year after. Unless you're worried about Aquillini's bank balance, what's the point in a buyout? I suppose it opens up a contract spot, but they have three available now. I'd try and trade him for future considerations once he's in the minors before a buyout if need be.