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  1. Posted July 30 (edited) I see it a little more like this: 1. Boeser 2. Petterson (#1 potential) 3. Tryamkin (if he's on the list than this is where he belongs) 4. Juolevi 5. Demko 6. Gaudette 7. Dahlen 8. Goldobin 9. Virtanen 10. Lind 11. Gadjovich 12. Brisboids 13. Lockwood 14. Dipietro 15. Macewan (my dark horse pick)
  2. Benn, St. Louis, Oates, Draisatl, Marchand, Selanne, Bertuzzi, Scheifle, Wheeler, Tarasenko, Gudreau, Datsyuk, LeClair, Pavelski, Kucherov, Naslund, etc.,
  3. Still take Jake over Bennett or Dal Colle.
  4. Kole Lind is another piece to JB/TL's puzzle.
  5. Landeskog who?. We have Elias Pettersson coming. .
  6. 19-22 was his best years. Seems to be declining since & quite dramatically last year. Also some sources that I heard say he has a lingering injury bug.? That source if I remember right was Pierre McQuire. I believe he said that if any team was interested in him that they better request a full medical exam 1st. His production in the past 3 years are declining, maybe there's some truth to that. Seems to be a step slower than he used to be as well. I'm staying clear. I'd go for the much faster Kane for nothing instead of trading a premier player for him..
  7. https://www.straight.com/news/972256/former-vancouver-canuck-hunter-shinkaruk-dropped-waivers When the Vancouver Canucks traded 2013 first round draft pick Hunter Shinkaruk to the Calgary Flames for Markus Granlund in February of 2016, reactions were mixed. At the time, Shinkaruk had played well in the American Hockey League, scoring 39 points in 45 games with the Utica Comets, and was looking like a potential top-six forward for Vancouver. Granlund was scoring at a similar rate, with nine points in 12 AHL games that year, but the Flames prospect was (and still is) a year-and-a-half older, and had a second-round draft pedigree, as opposed to Shinkaruk's status as a late first rounder. The trade really became lopsided last year, when Granlund played the entire year with the Canucks and turned into a responsible forward who can play both centre or wing anywhere in the lineup. The Finn even spent time with the Sedins last year, putting up 32 points in 69 games and coming one goal away from hitting 20 on the year. Meanwhile, Shinkaruk spent most of the year with the AHL's Stockton Heat and didn't replicate his previous scoring exploits in the league, posting 35 points in 52 games, along with one assist in seven games with the Flames. Shinkaruk was outperformed and subsequently passed on the depth chart by other Flames prospects like Mark Jankowski and Morgan Klimchuk. That's the nice way of saying it. The not nice way is mentioning that he was outscored by former Canuck Linden Vey, who never felt like an NHLer. Vey spent last season with the Heat but will be playing in the KHL this year (maybe we'll see him representing Canada in the Olympics). So, the Flames were set on dropping Shinkaruk to their AHL roster once again this season. Only one problem: Shinkaruk is now at the age where he requires to be put on waivers (where any team can claim him) to play in the AHL. Putting a player on waivers is a big sign that a team is ready to move on from said player. Right now, as it stands, the Shinkaruk-Granlund deal is the best trade Benning has made for the Canucks.
  8. Yes he does & that's why I'm not worried like a lot of people do about his size. Would Kane be as good and fast if he was 20-25 lbs heavier? Would Gudreau be as fast if he was 20 lbs. heavier? Would Karlsson be the offensive force he is 20-25 lbs heavier? When you have hands, speed, skill & hockey IQ that is elite, (alla Pettesson) size becomes irrelevant as the above and many more have proven this over many many years. (Marner, Pastranek, Fleury, Sheary, Ronning, Lafleur, Rafalski, Zuccarello, Quick, Dionne, St.louis, Gretzky, etc.)
  9. One of a kind. Approx 40 seonds in, enjoy.
  10. If he did such a bad job, would Team Canada hire him?
  11. Where can i watch this?
  12. That Mathews kid isn't far behind those 2.
  13. Pavel Daysyuk - drafted 160 lbs. today 197 lbs. https://www.nhl.com/redwings/news/hulls-help-propelled-datsyuk-to-new-heights/c-468232 He's not the same small, skinny-looking kid at 5-foot-10, 160 pounds that was passed over twice in the NHL Entry Draft and was finally picked 171st in 1998. He's now 5-11, 197. “I don't know if there is a player stronger on his skates than Pavel," Red Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom said. "Opponents think they have him covered, and I've seen him continue to stickhandle with one hand and use his lower body strength to fight through the check and continue to go to the net. Patrick Kane - drafted at 160 lbs. today 177lbs. http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/patrick_kane/ http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=96554 Johnny Gudreau - 157 lbs. today. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130893 Mitch Marner - 170 lbs today. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=161029 Elias Petterson - https://canucksarmy.com/2017/06/15/nation-network-2017-prospect-profiles-5-elias-pettersson/ While Pettersson has plenty of talents, he is lacking in two areas: his skating, while well above average, is not elite, and a growth spurt has left him tall but slight – he lacks pro-level strength and physicality. “He’s a pretty small player when you look at him,” Dahlen said of Pettersson. “You see he’s small and you think ‘whoa, how’s he gonna play’, and then when he goes on the ice, he’s so skilled, it doesn’t matter that he’s small, he can avoid tackles and hits so good, he’s really an amazing player and a big talent.” Like all undersized players that go on to have successful careers, Pettersson has his ways of working around his deficiencies. He excels in a number of areas, including puckhandling and shooting, but his level of intelligence is probably his move attractive quality. “He processes information extremely fast, at speed, in traffic,” prospect guru Shane Malloy said to Ryan Biech earlier this week on the Game Time Decision podcast. “He moves fast, he thinks fast, the puck moves fast, he doesn’t linger with the puck. He understands that the game moves faster through the puck.” Hockey IQ is often defined in many different ways, and that’s because there are many different facets to it. A high level of intelligence can afford a player a wealth of benefits. In the offensive zone, deception is a valuable skill, and it is rooted in understanding what opponents expect and how to take advantage of that. “He has a very good understanding of when to shoot in the offensive zone and what shot to use,” Malloy said. “He doesn’t telegraph his intentions or his shot, so he’ll do that quick wrister or a quick snap – he wants to get it away fast because he understands the value of making sure the goaltender is not set before he shoots.” Pettersson also has the esteemed honour of leading all draft eligible players in SEAL adjusted scoring – better than Nolan Patrick, better than Nico Hischier, and everyone else on this list. Much of that is owed to being a near point-per-game player in a professional league, but Pettersson was also highly successful at even strength. He tallied 11 goals and 11 assists at 5-on-5, with his team scoring 66% of the goals when he was on the ice. He generated more than 3 points per hour in all situations, and had a point on nearly 40% of Timra’s goals this past season. Size & weight is not the determining factor in an NHL player. If it was then every star player would be at least 6'2 & 200+ lbs. Many players play under that size & are better than the bigger players. Crosby, Marchand, Bergeron, Gudreau, Kane, Arvidsson, Johnson, Marner, Nylander, Pastranek, McDavid, Sedins, Datsyuk, Ronning, Rypien, etc. Also, people can be very strong even though they seem on the thinner side. If you follow the toughest guys in the world (UFC) you would see that many of the toughest guys are tall & slim not big & thick. (Bones Jones, Diaz, Anderson Silva, Royce Gracie, etc.) Skill is the #1 determining factor.
  14. Petterson as the potential to be the best player from this draft. He's not far behind Nico & Nolan & may well be the most skilled out of them all. Reminds me of a Pavel Datsyuk type player. Not the thickest but the slickest moves with a sick set of mitts, high hockey IQ, great skating & plays defensive first type player. I'm liking this pick a lot.
  15. Again, Virtanen is 20 years old. Kunitz was 27 years old before he played a season in the NHL. Maroon was 26 years old when he made the NHL. Kassian was 23 years old when he played his 1st NHL season. Penner was 25 years old in his 1st NHL season. Along with all the other dozen players I named you that didn't make the NHL until mid 20's. All these players have something in common. They took more time than most of their piers did to make it to the show & once they did most have became as valuable or more than the ones who got there earlier than them. I'm not saying he's a guaranteed NHL player but I'm also not going to say that he has no chance to be a top 6 player or something in the middle YET. Way too much development time still on Jakes side. He could easily be a big part of the puzzle here in years to come whether it's in the top 6 or bottom 6. Jake still has at least 3 more years before you can label him as a failure if we actually go by history of all these players & many many more.
  16. D+2 making it to NHL is not a failure. D+3 was under T. Green. T. Green seems to think Jake made strides. https://www.google.ca/amp/theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/jake-virtanen-put-up-good-possession-numbers-in-utica/amp Also if Virtanen's development was going so horrible like YOU say all under T. Green, then why is T. Green promoted to our Head Coach? I can name more if you like? Kunitz - http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=49486 Maroon - http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=105400 Kassian - http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=106835 Coyle - http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=127797 Penner - http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=77717
  17. Sorry but this is complete garbage. Go to the hockeyDBs of all these players and you'll see that most had proper development curves that led into their primes. Most of them were already putting up decent numbers in the NHL at Virtanen's current age. Complete garbage? hockeydb done just for you. Most of them were already putting up decent numbers in the NHL at Virtanen's current age.? REALLY. Bertuzzi - Born 1975. Never showed anything in NHL until 1999/2000. (25 YEAR OLD) http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=369 Primeau - Born 1971. Never showed anything in NHL until 1993/1994. (23 YEARS OLD) http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=725 Kreider - Born 1991. Never showed anything in NHL until 2013/2014. (23 YEARS OLD) http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=120939 Otto - Born 1961. Never showed anything in NHL until 1985/1986. (25 YEARS OLD) http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=4095 Stevens - Born 1965. Never showed anything in NHL until 1989/1990. (25 YEARS OLD) http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=5177 LeClair - Born 1969. Never showed anything in NHL until 1992/1993. (24 YEARS OLD) http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=3036 Virtanen Born 1996. ONLY 20 YEARS OLD.
  18. Dane Fox isn't wasn't & never will be as good as Kole Lind.
  19. As a over age 21 year old. Lind is 18.
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