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Just now, lmm said:
I hate this team
Fire Allvin
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11 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:
Well they also hired Torts. No shortage of questionable management in the NHL. It's often not what you know but who you know. Just like real life.
that is true
what is also true is there is no shortage of questionable management in the NHL management
by that I mean Bettman, Daly, Campbell, Parros
the NHL has been trying to sell and create parity for years
and what we are seeing now is a pretty watered down product
Can anyone say that the Nashville, StLouis or Dallas games were good hockey?
if Vancouver can beat them with 4 AHL defenseman and 5 AHL forwards,
it is not only an indictment of those teams, but of the NHL as well
meanwhile there are 6-8 teams that are actually playing for the cup every year
Try as they might, the NHL has failed to make parity anything more than a catchphrase
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26 minutes ago, UFCanuck said:
Can’t wait for his comeback highlight clip.
I remember on nice apple
and a few nice hits
you just need to clip the shots cuz a goal gets scored right after
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4 hours ago, Provost said:
Ok dude… I have spent enough time trying to civilly answer your questions even though you have been rude about it.
You don’t know what the term means, you don’t want to learn what it means, and you want to keep “correcting” everyone else… even though you are wrong.
Byewell, one of us is right
You think being a first round pick means "Pedigree"
I think pedigree means "Blood Line"
you think disagreeing with you means I am rude
If you had shown me that his father had played hockey at a high level, I'd have quit
but HOckey DB has no other Kratvsov's so I am not buying "Pedigree"
You think because others also think Pedigree means "First round Pick" then you can feel assured that you are correct in your mis-use , (or maybe it's the new age meaning, like "literally, which you also like to throw around) of the word "pedigree"
but I can stop
good night
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2 hours ago, Provost said:
Literally from the first result on a Google search that pulls from Oxford dictionary.... plus everywhere else.
Even Webster has it as one of the definitions of the word. If you keep running into situations where you are calling several people out for being wrong, maybe do more than the briefest cursory look and consider that you may be the one who is actually wrong?
1: a register recording a line of ancestorsThe pedigree traces the family back to the 18th century.That horse has an impressive pedigree.b: the origin and the history of somethingDemocracy's pedigree stretches back to ancient Greece.: a distinguished ancestryactions spoke louder than pedigrees in the trenches—Dixon Wecterb: the recorded purity of breed of an individual or strainvouch for a horse's pedigree
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedigree?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonld
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22 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said:
Certainly don't like it, but let's hope that Vitali the kid, matured as he just turned 23 now.
I wasn't even doing my own laundry at 19.
I still don't do laundry
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37 minutes ago, Alflives said:
Yup. Jake and OJ has good draft pedigree. That’s why they kept getting chances even though they really didn’t deserve them. Kravtsov has similar draft pedigree. He will get chances because of it. Usually the high draft picks have some kind of skill set that predicts they will have NHL success.
can't tell if your drunk or just pulling my chain
So, who signs Jake next based on his pedigree
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40 minutes ago, Provost said:
His background and history as a former high first round pick.... Literally a remarkably common usage when people talk about high draft picks and how they are of a higher breed of player.
so common in fact that 3 of you used the same term
If i were talking about pedigree, I would be talking about Mark Howe or Brett Hull
Brett Hull had Pedigree even though he was a 5th round pick
So you are saying that Jake V has pedigree?
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1 hour ago, Provost said:
Literally from the first result on a Google search that pulls from Oxford dictionary.... plus everywhere else.
Even Webster has it as one of the definitions of the word. If you keep running into situations where you are calling several people out for being wrong, maybe do more than the briefest cursory look and consider that you may be the one who is actually wrong?
1: a register recording a line of ancestorsThe pedigree traces the family back to the 18th century.That horse has an impressive pedigree.b: the origin and the history of somethingDemocracy's pedigree stretches back to ancient Greece.: a distinguished ancestryactions spoke louder than pedigrees in the trenches—Dixon Wecterb: the recorded purity of breed of an individual or strainvouch for a horse's pedigree
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedigree?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonld
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/pedigreeand how does any of that relate to Krvatsov?
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12 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:
i agree with you on karlsson subban and burns not that great defensively but when i say recent i'm prolly referring to the last 5 years when scoring seem to have taken off with the defenceman with the likes of makar hughes fox etc. i still think you need at the very least a norris caliber defenceman one that will be in the top 4-5 voting each year at the very least to win a cup. maybe carolina will break the trend as they dont really have a norris caliber defenceman on the team.. but the favorites again most of them have that defenceman on the team whether it's vegas colorado in the west, tampa boston and rangers in the east.. only exception is carolina and i dont think jersey is a contender yet. toronto and oilers will never win a cup with their defence.. they can win a round or 2 but they'll eventually be shutdown.
I totally agree with you
as I've said before, I think the NHL in a poser league
lots of teams look good in the reg season, but its the teams with big strong , and hopefully a Norris calibre defense that win the cups most often
Avs were a bit of an anomaly last year
I'm a bit surprised their defense didn't get blown out in the playoffs
and I would never feel comfortable if the Canucks were to depend on a D that small
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19 hours ago, Provost said:
where did you find that Scheme quote
Webster mentions ancestry or bloodline in all of their examples
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19 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:
is the norris a scoring title? there have been 3 norris winner that were the scoring leaders for defenceman that year. and none of them are recent. all the norris trophy winners of recent indeed scores a lot but i don't think you can point and say any one of them are below average defensively.. i personally think they are all above average defensively and exceptional offensively.. otherwise tyson barrie should have won in 2020-2021 when he topped defenceman scoring.. or finish top 3 top 5.. but he didnt even get 1 single vote for norris..
i think the Norris trophy evolved that it no longer goes to the exceptional big hulking defenceman with exceptional defensive ability and average goal scoring to exceptional offensive ability with above average defence. so i think it's still very important to winning a cup till that trend is broken.
I would agree with you on Giordano, but disagree with Karlson, Subban and Burns
I kind of feel like some of these guys end up with a really good defensive partner, and that inflates their +/- enough to make them look better than they are
but to your point Hedman and Fox are better than good defensively
Chara was a dominant player
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1 hour ago, Provost said:
I don't hold out much hope, but at the same time he cost us effectively nothing and at least has a better chance of working out than Lockwood.
This last part of the season is pretty ideal to find out if he has any potential to be a real player or not. Give him some top 6 time and enough minutes with better linemates to see what happens. Probably not better than Garland/Podkolzin/Hoglander... but maybe. The guys like this who have just been with one team or coach are better bets than guys who have bounced out of several teams. It could just be he didn't get a chance or mesh with their team.
Do this a dozen times with similar pedigree players and maybe you unearth a gem. As long as the acquisition cost is minor, why not.I've seen 3 posters say pedigree
I don't see that that is the appropriate use of the word
Do Jake and Oli have pedigree as well?
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8 minutes ago, R3aL said:
From draft day to now there are very few power forwards that hit early in their career.
they usually take longer and to physically mature is when they really start to shine
hope and optimism are free and will be a better experience
we gave up nothing for a player with pedigree and promise
6'3" 186#
is Petey a power forward as well?
where do you get words like pedigree from?
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tall thin softy
not holding out much hope for this prospect
wonder what Tocc thinks
at least we aren't paying him $4M
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1 hour ago, Rindiculous said:
And with that, the last player from our 2016 draft class is gone.
But I'm hopeful Kravtsov could turn it around for us.
haha
that didn't take much
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3 hours ago, EdgarM said:
Does the defenseman need to be a Norris winner or be just a Norris CALIBER defenseman? Its no secret that you need offense from your defenseman in the playoffs and I think that is something that plays a more important role then whether the player won a trophy or not.
Ray Bourque was a Norris Trophy winner but it took him 23 years to win a cup and he had to leave his own team to do so. So was it him or his team that was the reason he won a cup?
Your theory is like you need a "Goalie" to win a cup, well of course you do. I think what you are saying is that a Norris winning defenseman are rare, as are PMD. If you change your theory of Norris winner to PMD then how many of them have won a cup? I am betting its more like 100% of cup winners had one.
I don't know if Hughes will ever win a Norris trophy in his career but I do know he is PMD that we have been looking for, for a very long time. If we can find him a good quality partner, I think we are sitting pretty good moving forward.
I don't think you want to put too much stock in there being only one answer
the Canucks went to the finals with a deep defense then had many injuries and a suspension too decimate their corps
Chicago won one of there cups with 3 defensemen playing 80% of the minutes
Boston won with one dominant defenseman
4 of the last 11 Norris winners have cups
but farther back almost every Norris winner has a cup or 3
now that the Norris is a scoring title, I think it is less important to winning a Stanley
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On 2/21/2023 at 4:15 PM, Nuckin Kingsly said:
I wonder if that improves or worsens our chances on Bedard haha.
Replaced by a midling AHLer
I'd say its about even
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37 minutes ago, coho8888 said:
sigh.. I remember as a teenager attending this game from the standing room only section of the old coliseum.
ah thee good ol days...
when hockey still had some integrity
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9 minutes ago, DeNiro said:
Read his tweet again.
Hes not mentioning our win against them he’s just randomly saying the Isles are in a wild card spot.
what I see is a list of 5 teams the canucks have won against, 1 is in the wild card spot , 4 are lower
I see no reason for tears or outrage
but if it bothers you, fill your boots with tears and outrage
either you are playing grammar nazi or you comprehension is not that good
it's a tweet for gosh sakes
If my writing teacher in grade 4 corrected it, they probably change the period to a comma, but seriously, who cares
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1 minute ago, Muttley said:
There may be a possibility Luke Schenn does play more games with the Canucks!
i think it was Orlov or Schenn
[Trade] Red Wings trade Filip Hronek, 2023 4th-round pick to Canucks for conditional 2023 1st-round pick (NYI), 2023 2nd-round pick
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it called the Canuckle dancee
one step forward
two steps back
one step forward
three steps back
I hate this team!