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  1. 6 hours ago, Nuckin Kingsly said:

    Really?? Isn’t Hronek not so good at the defence part of Defence? I’m not too familiar. I know Detroit isn’t the best team, but didn’t we need more size? Was really excited about the fact we had 2 firsts this year… and a second?!? What in the actual F. This really caught me off guard 

    it called the Canuckle dancee

    one step forward

    two steps back

    one step forward

    three steps back

     

    I hate this team!

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  2. 11 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

    Well they also hired Torts.  No shortage of questionable management in the NHL.  It's often not what you know but who you know.  Just like real life.

    that is true

    what is also true is there is no shortage of questionable management in the NHL management

    by that I mean Bettman, Daly, Campbell, Parros

    the NHL has been trying to sell and create parity for years

    and what we are seeing now is a pretty watered down product

    Can anyone say that the Nashville, StLouis or Dallas games were good hockey?

    if Vancouver can beat them with 4 AHL defenseman and 5 AHL forwards,

    it is not only an indictment of those teams, but of the NHL as well 

    meanwhile there are 6-8 teams that are actually playing for the cup every year

     

    Try as they might, the NHL has failed to make parity anything more than a catchphrase

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  3. 4 hours ago, Provost said:

    Ok dude… I have spent enough time trying to civilly answer your questions even though you have been rude about it.

     

    You don’t know what the term means, you don’t want to learn what it means, and you want to keep “correcting” everyone else… even though you are wrong.


    Bye

     

    well, one of us is right

    You think being a first round pick means "Pedigree"

    I think pedigree means "Blood Line"

    you think disagreeing with you means I am rude

     

    If you had shown me that his father had played hockey at a high level, I'd have quit

    but HOckey DB has no other Kratvsov's so I am not buying "Pedigree"

    You think because others also think Pedigree means "First round Pick" then you can feel assured that you are correct in your mis-use , (or maybe it's the new age meaning, like "literally, which you also like to throw around) of the word "pedigree"

     

    but I can stop

    good night

  4. 2 hours ago, Provost said:

    Literally from the first result on a Google search that pulls from Oxford dictionary.... plus everywhere else.

    Even Webster has it as one of the definitions of the word.  If you keep running into situations where you are calling several people out for being wrong, maybe do more than the briefest cursory look and consider that you may be the one who is actually wrong?

     

    1
    a register recording a line of ancestors
    The pedigree traces the family back to the 18th century.
    2aan ancestral line LINEAGE
    That horse has an impressive pedigree.
    b
    the origin and the history of something
    Democracy's pedigree stretches back to ancient Greece.
    broadly BACKGROUNDHISTORY 
    3a
    a distinguished ancestry
    actions spoke louder than pedigrees in the trenchesDixon Wecter
    b
    the recorded purity of breed of an individual or strain
    vouch for a horse's pedigree



    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedigree?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonld

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/pedigree

     

  5. 37 minutes ago, Alflives said:

    Yup. Jake and OJ has good draft pedigree.  That’s why they kept getting chances even though they really didn’t deserve them. Kravtsov has similar draft pedigree. He will get chances because of it. Usually the high draft picks have some kind of skill set that predicts they will have NHL success. 

     

    can't tell if your drunk or just pulling my chain

    So, who signs Jake next based on his pedigree

  6. 40 minutes ago, Provost said:

    His background and history as a former high first round pick....  Literally a remarkably common usage when people talk about high draft picks and how they are of a higher breed of player.  
     

    so common in fact that 3 of you used the same term

    If i were talking about pedigree, I would be talking about Mark Howe or Brett Hull 

    Brett Hull had Pedigree even though he was a 5th round pick

     

    So you are saying that Jake V has pedigree?

  7. 1 hour ago, Provost said:

    Literally from the first result on a Google search that pulls from Oxford dictionary.... plus everywhere else.

    Even Webster has it as one of the definitions of the word.  If you keep running into situations where you are calling several people out for being wrong, maybe do more than the briefest cursory look and consider that you may be the one who is actually wrong?

     

    1
    a register recording a line of ancestors
    The pedigree traces the family back to the 18th century.
    2aan ancestral line LINEAGE
    That horse has an impressive pedigree.
    b
    the origin and the history of something
    Democracy's pedigree stretches back to ancient Greece.
    broadly BACKGROUNDHISTORY 
    3a
    a distinguished ancestry
    actions spoke louder than pedigrees in the trenchesDixon Wecter
    b
    the recorded purity of breed of an individual or strain
    vouch for a horse's pedigree



    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedigree?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonld

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/pedigree

    and how does any of that relate to Krvatsov?

  8. 12 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

    i agree with you on karlsson subban and burns not that great defensively but when i say recent i'm prolly referring to the last 5 years when scoring seem to have taken off with the defenceman with the likes of makar hughes fox etc. i still think you need at the very least a norris caliber defenceman one that will be in the top 4-5 voting each year at the very least to win a cup. maybe carolina will break the trend as they dont really have a norris caliber defenceman on the team.. but the favorites again most of them have that defenceman on the team whether it's vegas colorado in the west, tampa boston and rangers in the east.. only exception is carolina and i dont think jersey is a contender yet. toronto and oilers will never win a cup with their defence.. they can win a round or 2 but they'll eventually be shutdown.

    I totally agree with you

    as I've said before, I think the NHL in a poser league

    lots of teams look good in the reg season, but its the teams with big strong , and hopefully a Norris calibre defense that win the cups most often

    Avs were a bit of an anomaly last year

    I'm a bit surprised their defense didn't get blown out in the playoffs

    and I would never feel comfortable if the Canucks were to depend on a D that small

  9. 19 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

    is the norris a scoring title? there have been 3 norris winner that were the scoring leaders for defenceman that year. and none of them are recent. all the norris trophy winners of recent indeed scores a lot but i don't think you can point and say any one of them are below average defensively.. i personally think they are all above average defensively and exceptional offensively.. otherwise tyson barrie should have won in 2020-2021 when he topped defenceman scoring.. or finish top 3 top 5.. but he didnt even get 1 single vote for norris..

     

    i think the Norris trophy evolved that it no longer goes to the exceptional big hulking defenceman with exceptional defensive ability and average goal scoring to exceptional offensive ability with above average defence. so i think it's still very important to winning a cup till that trend is broken.

    I would agree with you on Giordano, but disagree with Karlson, Subban and Burns

    I kind of feel like some of these guys end up with a really good defensive partner, and that inflates their +/- enough to make them look better than they are 

    but to your point Hedman and Fox are better than good defensively

    Chara was a dominant player

  10. 1 hour ago, Provost said:

    I don't hold out much hope, but at the same time he cost us effectively nothing and at least has a better chance of working out than Lockwood.

    This last part of the season is pretty ideal to find out if he has any potential to be a real player or not.  Give him some top 6 time and enough minutes with better linemates to see what happens.  Probably not better than Garland/Podkolzin/Hoglander... but maybe.  The guys like this who have just been with one team or coach are better bets than guys who have bounced out of several teams.  It could just be he didn't get a chance or mesh with their team.

    Do this a dozen times with similar pedigree players and maybe you unearth a gem.  As long as the acquisition cost is minor, why not. 

    I've seen 3 posters say pedigree

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedigree#:~:text=%3A a table or list showing,breed recorded by a pedigree

     

    I don't see that that is the appropriate use of the word

    Do Jake and Oli have pedigree as well?

  11. 8 minutes ago, R3aL said:

    From draft day to now there are very few power forwards that hit early in their career.

     

    they usually take longer and to physically mature is when they really start to shine

     

    hope and optimism are free and will be a better experience 

     

    we gave up nothing for a player with pedigree and promise 

    6'3" 186#

    is Petey a power forward as well?

     

    where do you get words like pedigree from?

  12. 3 hours ago, EdgarM said:

    Does the defenseman need to be a Norris winner or be just a Norris CALIBER defenseman? Its no secret that you need offense from your defenseman in the playoffs and I think that is something that plays a more important role then whether the player won a trophy or not. 

    Ray Bourque was a Norris Trophy winner but it took him 23 years to win a cup and he had to leave his own team to do so. So was it him or his team that was the reason he won a cup?

    Your theory is like you need a "Goalie" to win a cup, well of course you do. I think what you are saying is that a Norris winning defenseman are rare, as are PMD. If you change your theory of Norris winner to PMD then how many of them have won a cup? I am betting its more like 100% of cup winners had one.

    I don't know if Hughes will ever win a Norris trophy in his career but I do know he is PMD that we have been looking for, for a very long time. If we can find him a good quality partner, I think we are sitting pretty good moving forward. 

    I don't think you want to put too much stock in there being only one answer

    the Canucks went to the finals with a deep defense then had many injuries and a suspension too decimate their corps

    Chicago won one of there cups with 3 defensemen playing 80% of the minutes

    Boston won with one dominant defenseman

     

    4 of the last 11 Norris winners have cups

    but farther back almost every Norris winner has a cup or 3

    now that the Norris is a scoring title, I think it is less important to winning a Stanley

  13. 9 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

    Read his tweet again.

     

    Hes not mentioning our win against them he’s just randomly saying the Isles are in a wild card spot.

    what I see is a list of 5 teams the canucks have won against, 1 is in the wild card spot , 4 are lower

    I see no reason for tears or outrage

    but if it bothers you, fill your boots with tears and outrage

     

    either you are playing grammar nazi or you comprehension is not that good

     

    it's a tweet for gosh sakes

    If my writing teacher in grade 4 corrected it, they probably change the period to a comma, but seriously, who cares

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