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the play on this is if he doesn't get sick from it then he can say that it is no big deal and that it is a hoax. Yeah they said I had it, I don't know I felt great.

Go to the CBC site Click COVID-19 Click Coronavirus brief Scroll down until you see the heading 'The Science'. Note the info changes everyday because they are 'briefs' The science brief today is different but below is the link for Sept 30th. You should still be able to see it. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/coronavirus-newsletter-sept-30-1.5745257 PS I am sure you remember Tony Twist. Did you know that him and John Cooper played lacrosse together. In the 70s PG was one of the stronger lacrosse associations in BC. Tony Twist made his career as a fighter but he was an exceptional athlete. His first year of junior hockey he had 52 points in 42 games.

Wrong, it is not from the same article. Wrong, I did not not add 'The Science' - see screen shot. I pasted everything on BC.

CBC website

THE SCIENCE Why the positivity rate — a key metric for charting COVID-19's spread — is giving reason for hope in B.C. A key COVID-19 statistic that you won't hear about during B.C.'s daily health briefings could indicate residents are slowing transmission of the virus. The number of COVID-19 cases detected in a day divided by the number of tests completed that day gives what is called the positivity rate — a number that was as high as seven per cent in the early days of the pandemic, and less than one per cent for most of June. The positivity rate can be determined when the daily testing numbers are reported. Over the last week, that number has declined consistently to below two per cent — a level not seen on a regular basis since early July. "Per cent positive is something we watch," said Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry. "It's one of those metrics that if it's above five per cent … that tells us there's transmission in the community that is concerning." Because testing in B.C. continues to go up — the average weekly number has doubled since early August — the daily number of new cases hasn't been decreasing. In addition, the number of tests done a day vacillates wildly. That makes tracking "success" based on the number of daily new cases difficult — but experts say there have been encouraging signs in B.C.'s containment of the virus since nightclubs and banquet halls were shut down after Labour Day. "We can never really know exactly why change happens, but it does look like … there's signs of a downturn, which I think is great," said Simon Fraser University researcher Caroline Colijn, who studies the mathematics of infections. Colijn says the positivity rate doesn't show everything, and could be misleading if the province was inefficiently testing thousands of people who didn't have symptoms. At the same time, the lower rate could indicate that B.C.'s surge of cases has subsided, at least temporarily. And it shows community transmission is quite low. "It doesn't seem to be continuing that exponential growth trend. So I think there could be signs of slowing down, which would be amazing."

Agreed. If you watch his WHL highlight package his goals all look the same for the reasons you explained. Not sure why the scouts never saw that as a warning.

John Cooper is a super nice guy. I know a lot of people in PG are proud. He was a superb lacrosse player.

Coach Cooper from Prince George.

At this time there was also 'War Measures Act' which gave gov't the power to do anything it wanted. Civil liberties basically didn't exist in Canada during this period nor most countries.

People were locked down in the winter/spring. And in some countries that has started again This was done without consent and done without any proper debate or discussion. This is what the deeper liberty at stake issue is and has been raised by some very well respected figures. And the fact that the OP thinks there is scientific agreement about the seriousness of the virus tells you another thing about 'openness' in our society.

breathe deeply and try not to panic

Early on they didn't see much use in widespread testing. Contract tracing works in situations where infection is extremely low (e.g Taiwan) and that only happened in countries that understood what was going on. Japan wasn't one of them. The genie was out of the bottle here well before action was taken. As a side note the experts in France think the virus was circulating widely in France Nov. of last year well before they knew what was going on. I suspect the same here. If you insist on taking a test you can get one. Otherwise you have to meet the protocols or be caught in contact tracing. The general consensus here is that it is widely spread but people are just not getting sick from it. Many academics think that something circulated in this part of the world that has muted the Covid impact in many countries in Asia. But yes if the gov't wanted to test everyone we would have high infection numbers for sure. Tokyo still has about 200 cases a day depending which day of the week. As far as Covid deaths I am sure they are verified correctly here. I joke with my friends that most places you go here it is the 'old norm inside the new norm'. By this I mean masks, sanitizer, 2 meter markers are all part of getting into somewhere but once you are in all that goes out the window. Line ups dwindle down from 2 metre spacing to 10 cm.

Unfortunate for sure. About 150,000 people die everyday around the world. So in a year at the moment that 1 million of Covid deaths (if you trust the numbers) is 7 days of excess or extra death for the world.

Is she lying? This was today. You mean exposures right? Henry noted that there had been no school outbreaks so far, but there have been approximately 30 school exposures.

Petey read the original posts. The 'little johnny' narrative was debunked months ago by studies. It was used back in the spring and still used to scare people and to shame There are data-driven reasons why schools are open. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/146/2/e2020004879 For Tram's comments the main point is they don't know what is going to happen (they have different models based on certain conditions) but want people to practice an array of social distancing measures and for the various gov'ts to take necessary measures. I think most Canadians or at least the people I know understand this and have been doing this since things first went bad last winter. I listened to Trudeau's comments the other day as well. And just reaffirmed my belief he is one of the dumbest PM's we have had in decades. He says things void of any meaning. He is the idiot. The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.

There is so much literature (e.g.studies) around the world that conclude my basic point. That is why schools are open. Here is just one of those countless papers. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/146/2/e2020004879

Not with Covid read evidence. Cases clearly show in the house it is primarily parent to child. Think what you think though.

transmissions in the house are primarily from adult to child.

says the guy who thinks people who test positive should be half beaten to death. okay cowboy.

Yeah why is your son going out drinking at a 'bar' when those places have been singled out as spreaders.

In your world of circular reasoning wow is simply wow.

wow

Context is everything. https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/a6f23959a8b14bfa989e3cda29297ded

Indonesia - same country that earlier this year want to pass a law to force gay people into rehabilitation programs and legally recognize that women's primarily role is in the home.

They will do localized lockdowns if it comes to that. My guess is BC will be like here. We saw a massive rise mid July and people started to panic (partially the increase in testing). The warnings and comments from the gov't are identical - concerned but stable, may need to lockdown if things do not change. However, you guys did shutdown night clubs quicker. My guess is they will continue to monitor the eateries and drinking places very closely like they did hear. Into mid Sept now numbers have dropped substantially and the gov't has done even more easing. People rant and rave but most people in BC get the idea of social distancing and know that everyone needs to be vigilant. Again Henry was on TV, last week or before that telling everyone they need to reset and prepare for the next stage - that is proactive leadership. She set the tone for the next few months. I think in the next month or so I think the numbers will drop because again the average person in BC understands. I think when this happens people we see that it can be managed while keeping things relatively normal. It will be a big step.