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57 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:
World Health Organization is not an enforcement branch. I extremely doubt they have investigators reviewing the numbers brought in by every country.
In the end it's in each countries interest to be open and honest about the numbers, and the situation.
"The WHO's broad mandate includes advocating for universal healthcare, monitoring public health risks, coordinating responses to health emergencies, and promoting human health and well being.[6] It provides technical assistance to countries, sets international health standards and guidelines, and collects data on global health issues through the World Health Survey." Wikipedia.
Did the WHO not respond quickly enough? Probably, but that goes to many countries around the world. The US has more dead than Canada has cases in total.
Looking at the UN/WHO as scapegoats doesn't help. Making improvements next time so nations are more prepared is what's needed.
And there's a lot of blame to go around. Some leaders downplay the outbreak, and seem not to care about it's population.
Well, Moscow Mitch failed to put a confirmation vote for the US representative to the WHO Executive Board. So the US has been absent from the board and having a direct voice as to the comings and goings. So if anything, the finger pointing is squarely on TRUMP and the GOP.
Trump Is Scapegoating the WHO — But Failed to Confirm a U.S. Representative for 3 Years
Trump and the Senate GOP ignored the World Health Organization. Then came the new coronavirus pandemic.
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Early days. Human and animal trials ongoing. Hopefully, this all works out, but we are months away form a working human version in the best-case scenario.
6 monkeys given an experimental coronavirus vaccine from Oxford did not catch COVID-19 after heavy exposure, raising hopes for a human vaccine
- Monkeys given an experimental vaccine from the University of Oxford appear to have resisted the novel coronavirus.
- Six rhesus macaques given hAdOx1 nCoV-19 in Montana did not fall ill despite heavy exposure, The New York Times reported Monday.
- There is no guarantee the vaccine will work on humans, but successful animal tests are a promising early sign.
- The Oxford Vaccine Group began human trials for the vaccine last week.
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24 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:
1) I have multiple times.
2) PPC
3) Wholeheartedly agree.
Who knows behind the scenes maybe there was the threat of freedom bombs.
You mean that party that couldn't get a single MP elected with that terrible PM JT at the helm? The party who couldn't even get their leader elected? The party who got fewer votes than that left wing crazy Green Party (The Greens got 4 times the PPC's votes BTW). You mean that party. That's the party we should be turning to for leadership. Are you trying to pull a TRUMP and say that this was sarcasm?
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At least she didn't attend the protests last week.
Leader of ReOpen NC tests positive for coronavirus: Report
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8 minutes ago, DarthMelvin said:
It's funny you believed him, can I see your set up?
In a time of crisis, should the words of a leader be taken seriously, or do we have to wait and analyze whether or not those words were a joke. Pick a leader in a time of crisis. Did we ever have to question their words. Yet you are defending TRUMP's defense that he was being sarcastic, in a serious briefing during a worldwide crisis.
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31 minutes ago, Kragar said:He is an oddball, for sure. He doesn't talk like a politician, and that rubs people (including me sometimes) the wrong way.
Who politicized first? Especially in an election year, that is an important consideration.
I think many people overestimate his "dangerousness", especially when his words are filtered to make them more dangerous or wrong than they really are.
But then, people overestimate the power and impact of the President (or PM for that matter) on our lives.
I've agreed already about the appropriateness of his spitballing at the podium.
Should the words of a leader be taken seriously, or do we have to filter them, analyze them, or outright ignore them because we have no idea if the leader is being serious or not? When Obama gave a briefing, did we have to wait and see if his words were sarcastic or not? That's a big issue with TRUMP, you can't take him seriously. And you don't need to spin them to make his words look bad. He does that all on his own.
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4 minutes ago, Standing_Tall#37 said:
ooooooh, you work at the kwik-E-Mart....
Man, it would be awesome to get some of that Simpsons big bucks. Hank Azaria's net worth stands at around $80 million (voice actor of Apu)
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26 minutes ago, Standing_Tall#37 said:
Okay. Spruceland shopping Center. I may have been so wrong about which mall you work at.
Still wrong. Like WAY off. Thank you, come again.
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41 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:
So I'll give you an example from my industry. For all medical devices in Canada you have to be able to recall them if there's a problem. To do that you need to keep a database of your customers so you can track where things went. Sometimes you can't do that to the level of an individual (e.g., for things like disposable items, things like masks or gloves that make it to the retail level like you might see at Costco e.g.). But you can do that to the distributor level.
Industry tried to make the same argument, that you won't stop fraudsters or bad companies from putting out crappy product. But it has reduced it a lot, its much harder for companies to sneak in offshore knock off products into the system now. It still happens, but its reduced.
But more importantly when something does go sideways with a legitimate product you can quickly trace where it went.
I don't see why guns should be any different, its just a product. If gun distributors input a customers name and type of gun sold into a federal database, you gain traceability just like with medical devices. I don't see how inputting 2 pieces of information is burdensome to anyone. The gun distributor has to maintain all of the detailed record anyway and those can be accessed quickly if need be for the rare time that its needed.
The prevention piece that you gain by adding traceability to gun sales is for instances where a guy is flagged as a problem for some other reason and you can at least check what he has and know what to get back from him.
You can also flag unusual sales, such as multiple purchases in one day or multiple stores in a short period.
The other piece is if a shooter gets a gun that began its life legally sold, you know who to go after as the source of the gun and come down really &^@#ing hard on them. So the prevention part there comes is by reducing the number of straw buyers.
Of course it doesn't solve all the problems, but I think these 3 efforts would be worth adding two pieces of data per gun sale.
This. I always illustrate the traceability with this scenario:
You have a dead person and beside them is a) a gun or b) a smashed car. The serial numbers are on the gun. The VIN and license plate are on the car. Police can easily search a database to figure out who the car belongs to and whether it was reported stolen or not. The gun, good luck. Thing is, the longer police go without leads in the case, the more likely the case will become cold. Know who the owner is or where the gun was purchased, or whether the gun was stolen are kinda key leads for a murder investigation.
But hey, law abiding citizens can't have their right/freedoms infringed. Wait, Canada doesn't have gun ownership enshrined in our Constitution. Its a privilege. Much like car ownership/usage.
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For those that parroted the talking point that COVID-19 is no worse than the flu, those talking points have aged like milk.
Coronavirus Kills More Americans in One Month Than the Flu Kills in One Year
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3 hours ago, Standing_Tall#37 said:
I don’t know why you’re wasting your time arguing with someone who works at the pine centre mall, piercing ears for a living. Clearly he’s an expert in all things industry, everywhere. Ever.
Your ability to analyze who people are based on their posts is WAY WAY off. Don't work at Pine Centre Mall. Don't pierce ears for a living. Never claim to be an expert on anything. Looks like it may be a waste of time arguing with you since you can be so wrong about people.
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17 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:
So let's simplify this, Norway got to put that 650 billion in their heritage fund. Do you get it?
Equalization doesn't have to be a thing, it didn't start until the late 50s.
Your argument is akin to saying cities and towns that support and employ workers in Norways oil and gas should get more money that those who do not. The haves should get more than the takers . That's what you argue for
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12 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:
So let's simplify this, Norway got to put that 650 billion in their heritage fund. Do you get it?
Equalization doesn't have to be a thing, it didn't start until the late 50s.
Strome: Using tax dollars to help out provincial governments: bad.
Also Strome: Use tax dollars to help out oil companies: good.
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6 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:
That 650 billion is fact, educate yourself. The point you keep missing is Norway doesn't give away 650 billion in equalization.
Alberta didn't give away anything. I paid federal taxes. You paid federal taxes. Billy Bigbucks paid federal taxes. Those taxes are then spent and transferred. Having a lot of high paying jobs is why you "gave" Ottawa more than what you got back. It's the same argument that rich folks try to give when comparing the dollars they paid compared to the dollars their employees paid. Those rich folks shouldn't/don't get to use that to justify getting more back from the government. Your argument doesn't get to stand either.
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9 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:
Norway is a country Alberta is a province. Imagine if 650 billion was put in the heritage fund.
Why is it one or the other for you? Why does BC continue to subsidize an industry that is dependent on the Americans and Japanese?
I'm aware. Thing is, Alberta sets things like their provincial corporate taxes and their royalties. Successive Albertan governments slashed those to the bone. That's why your heritage fund is crap. Thats how Albertans subsidized the oil industry.
I bring up Norway because they took steps to try and maximize the revenue from a limited resource. Canada and Alberta have done everything that they can to piss away said revenue. You seemingly miss the point.
As for the $650 billion or $20 billion or whatever number you pull out of your posterior, that is not some cheque that Alberta cuts to the rest of Canada. As others have pointed out.
What I find funny is you complain about this from a socialism is bad angle. Then you advocate for an industry to be propped up by tax dollars in a similar manner to the thing you complain about in multiple threads. Weird. Almost like there is a word to describe this that starts with an H and rhyme with democracy.
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19 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:
Strange...the Norwegian government disagrees with you two.
And they disagree with you. How's the legacy fund going? Norway has a more direct financial situation with their oil and gas than Canada does. Maybe we should have fixed the issues with the NEP and been more like Norway rather than the shortsighted conservative approach to end it. But hey, hindsight is 20/20.
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11 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:
I thought they had that capability??
On ctv last night the NS government said they would have and were ready to but the RCMP didn't give the green light. They were saying they get COVID-19 notifications on cells but nothing for this.
I was unaware. I just thought it would be logical for something like that to be implemented/used.
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11 minutes ago, Warhippy said:
Just curious. Is anyone actually on board with bailing out corporations in an industry that will just need more money in 3 months, instead of helping the actual people affected by it?
I'd much rather commit that money to the people affected and allow these corporations to fly or fold under their own balance sheets
Nope. It's like cutting cheques for coal. An industry that will die out. I'm not even sure I'm for the case that if a company wants our money, we get a percentage of said company. And no selling off at a loss just to balance the budget like Harper did with the GM stock we got as part of the 08 bailouts.
I'm more for the idea that "bailout" money should go towards infrastructure projects. New roads, rail, alternative energy projects. Let's build for the future, not hang on to the past. Because China and India are not waiting. They're leaders in alternative energy projects. Posted the source for this numerous times.
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27 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said:
They advertised on Twitter. They have 91,000 followers on Twitter for a province of nearly 1 million. Pretty pathetic response.
Maybe something like an amber alert type system should be developed. There are provincial/state emergency alerts that get sent out on cell networks. It shouldn't be hard to implement a system that can alert people in a specific region/area. Something that could have been used for this incident or like when those two guys went on that spree a while back.
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Just now, Ryan Strome said:
I simply told someone they might enjoy a specific post. I think your Trump thread misses you. Bye, yankee.
TRUMP thread is not my thread. Not a Yankee. So wrong on both accounts.
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Just now, Ryan Strome said:
@Jimmy McGill I suspect you will enjoy this.
Trudeau gets another shot, for Alberta he blows it again
Justin Trudeau gets another kick at the can Tuesday.
Another opportunity for the prime minister to actually … can he do it … answer a flipping question.
A simple question, a simple answer.
He could say No. He could say Yes. He could say Yes but he’s working out the fine print. He could say something.
Question. Is there going to be further support for the oilpatch?
Is there more coming to the patch than the bone he tossed out Friday, cleaning up orphan wells while providing diddly details on what Alberta wants, a credit backstop for companies fighting against the ugliness of the next year to 18 months?
Is there more coming than what was served up, a meagre meal designed so even Greta Thunberg’s friends wouldn’t be upset?
It’s Groundhog Day. Again Trudeau dances the way he always dances. Again Trudeau commits to nothing and takes a lot of words to get to Nowheresville.
Trudeau says his government is helping people across Canada. His government has done a lot for all industries, including the oilpatch.
His government has helped thousands of workers across Alberta, and yes, in the oilpatch.
Then there’s the old trick.
Trudeau dangles a carrot, a just-out-of-reach tease designed to make sure the Alberta government keeps playing nice with him.
You see, the folks in Edmonton don’t want to upset our prime minister and do something like compare his political depth to that of a finger bowl.
Do that and Trudeau might walk away and we’d be hooped.
It appears Trudeau has Alberta by the … you get the picture. The tail wags the dog.
So it goes. Trudeau says he’s always open to working with those needing support to get through the COVID-19 crisis.
Oh, thank you, Mr. Prime Minister. The door is still open. There is still hope.
What do I know? Grovelling could work.
A second question. Will there be support for provinces relying heavily on oil dough?
Let’s quote the PM word for word, just to show you his remarks are usually paraphrased to spare you the pain of his actual verbiage.
“We recognize various provinces are facing real challenges in terms of cash crunches, in terms of liquidity and our department of finance and others are engaged with different provinces in challenges they’re facing specifically.”
Oh well. Do not despair. Is that a light at the tunnel? It’s very hard to see. The tunnel is very long and very dark.
Seamus O’Regan, one of Trudeau’s sidekicks, a self-advertised friend of the oilpatch, says he’s working with the Alberta government. He has a good relationship with them. He’s working closely with Sonya Savage, Alberta’s energy minister.
I bet she’s going to get a Christmas card this year.
He talks with Alberta “frequently and often.”
Frequently AND often. That’s a lot.
The situation is fluid and the lines of communication are open and something will happen.
“We have to make sure the survivors survive,” says O’Regan, not explaining why the Trudeau government didn’t just reveal what was in the survival kit last Friday.
The Alberta government, Savage’s office to be specific and not Premier Jason Kenney’s staff who are most capable, did not call back to tell their side of the story.
John Barlow, the Conservative MP for southwestern Alberta, is a heavy hitter when he needs to be.
When Barlow hears Trudeau on Friday, he is angry at what he calls “a huge slap in the face.”
He says it is like the girl leading on the guy to believe she is his prom date but on the big day, he’s left standing alone in the high school gym with no dance partner.
Barlow says he talks to people in the oilpatch who are at their wits’ end.
One guy tells the MP “it’s like the government is stepping on my throat and is pushing down and I’m just watching the life seep out of me.”
Does Barlow think Trudeau will come through?
On the one hand, Liberal MPs see “an opportunity to speed up the demise of the energy sector.”
On the other hand, coming out of COVID-19, Ottawa may look to the battered and bruised golden goose to live another day and churn out coin for Fat City.
By the way, stateside on Tuesday, President Donald Trump promises a financial lifeline to the oilpatch down there.
“We will never let the great U.S. oil and gas industry down,” says Trump.
Can you hear Trudeau speak those words? There’s a simple question with a simple answer.
No.
I think he would because the guy who said he doesn't post opinion pieces to make a point just did it again.
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I don't want law enforcement/government able to track me and check a database of the guns I own. Goes to register/insure their car and puts a number plate that said law enforcement/government can check against a database.
Abuse of laws while driving, lose ability to drive legally. Suggesting guns should be treated the same. No, you cannot take away my liberties/ freedoms.
(Not anti-gun, just pro responsible regulated gun ownership)
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1 minute ago, RowdyCanuck said:
Isn't that why the logging companies are suppose to replant....
but I think the b.s part is their still pulling logs out by the mills their closing down but shipping to other mills.....
Those trees take longer than 20 years to be large enough to harvest. The beetle obliterated a large chunk of what could be cut. In order for there to be trees to cut in the future, the amount of trees cut annually had to be reduced.
I also agree about the trees being shipped elsewhere. However, it's all linked to the argument for raw log exports. The argument for is that there isn't enough trees in the area that they are cut to mill in said area, so they need to be exported. This allows some people in the area to still be employed cutting trees. If you forced those trees to be milled in said area, it wouldn't be economically viable. So then, the companies wouldn't even bother cutting the trees in said area. Then even more people would be unemployed.
Coronavirus outbreak
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We'll see if this actually happens, but we all should pressure the government to at least do this with regards to the bailout funds.
https://www.thespec.com/ts/politics/2020/04/28/no-covid-19-bailouts-for-firms-that-use-tax-havens-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-says.html
No COVID-19 bailouts for firms that use tax havens, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says