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With all due respect, the question was not "what is hockey about", it was, "did not the avoid the vulnerable player argument BS used against Kassian, for example, apply to NN"?

I am confident that Elvis knows the rules and the context applicable to this incident (and truly appreciate all the great content he brings). Standing corrected with respect to the legality of this hit to the head (because you can't hit a guy without hitting his head first? Oh well), I am still unconvinced that it could not have been avoided or mitigated. Burrows was clearly in a vulnerable position and, in my opinion, Niederreiter had him lined up, did not try to avoid or slow down, and (I think) lifted his shoulder to make sure he got the head. What is the rule? Did not (slash-Morrison's-teeth-out-well-after-the-whistle-but-concerned-with-player-safety-and-head-shots-guy) Shanahan use the slow down, turn the skates, avoid damaging the vulnerable player argument against the Canucks earlier this year? We've been jobbed so many times I can't remember which one this was? Oh yeah, Kassian's second suspension. Something about watching the skates and they didn't turn or slow down.. I am seriously asking what is the rule? And could not NN have slowed just a bit, turned just a bit, or not raised his shoulder to make sure it hit Burrow's head first?

You are right. I apologize. I should have just reported it. There is a difference between trolling and discussing and I should have let the mods take care of it. So don't worry about being called a troll by me. And don't worry about me calling you out for inappropriate content regardless of your "koolaid" and "blind" "jumping all over" personal slurs. Sorry "my poor feelings are hurt" and that my errant behavior "derails almost every good discussion". I really don't think you or chrisbanks are being called trolls "because you don't share our point of view".

I admit I am a complete homer (whatever that truly means). I have followed the Canucks since before they were even in the NHL. This bias against the Canucks goes back a long way. And it is not just the Canucks, by the way; ask Nordiques fans what they thought of the refereeing in 1994 playoffs - the league skewered Quebec even worse than Vancouver that year. And in 2011, ask Tampa fans what they thought of the angelic Bruins who did not take a penalty against the best power play in the league - wasn't this the only playoffs without a penalty? Blind rage though, I think you and BS are blind here. "doesn't pick his head"? Say what?!! How blind can you be? Even Shanny said he picked the head but that he didn't have to adjust to do so. "the head and only the head"? Are you making this stuff up? I think the league said something that is more appropriate to this incident about trying to avoid the head when a player was in a vulnerable position. "me and 95% of the hockey world is wrong"? Ok, you got me troll, I wasted my time on your bait. You and 95% of the hockey world is right.

Troll is back.

Members PipPipPipPipPip 446 posts Joined: 13-July 13 Posted 3 minutes ago Quote @NHLPlayerSafety: He does not "pick" the head as a result of poor timing, poor angle of approach, or unnecessary extension upward or outward Words can not explain my fury and how hypocritical I think they are. I barely know how to "copy and paste" so I hope this came out ok. (Tried to show BlueLemming's comment and previous quote.) BS says, "He does not 'pick' the head as a result of poor timing, poor angle of approach, or unnecessary extension upward or outward." Well, let's pick this apart: 1. If he doesn't pick the head because of blah, blah, or blah, doesn't that mean he still picks the head! 2. He didn't need to improve the poor timing or his angle of approach because he was going for the head and he hit it! 3. There was a movement upward and toward the head. Even his excuse admits the head was targeted and successfully. Fire Shanahan. Sue the league.

Ok, I see Burr's head (heading for the rafters!) FOX TV. (nuf said?) What the picture shows is NN's body slipping past Burr's body and sending his noodle flying. This "through the body" stuff is a red herring. He hit the head first, intentionally, and with no regard for Burr's safety. Unfortunately for Burrows, the Canucks, "real" hockey fans, that's not good enough for BS (Brendan Shanahan). Show the picture where there is no other contact than the head. Don't show us FOX TV!

"the reverse angle shows this most clearly" -- they cut off his head! Of course it shows the body contact! This just made me even more angry at this hypocrite and his gang of thugs.

Even when the top player in the league was cold-cocked in a somewhat similar incident, because he was a Canuck, nothing was done by the refs or the league. Naslund was never the same. We still don't know if Daniel will recover, Keith got only 5 games and he was a repeat offender, intended to do it, definitely injured Sedin, etc. This has to be corrected and soon. I worry about our young guns like Jensen; what if some nobody like Moore lays him out? So many examples have been shown to go against the Canucks yet nothing is done, no-one is taken to task.

And collusion and vindictiveness.

Burrows, that diving faker, has springs inside his helmet to make it look like he's been hit in the head.

There are other teams that get bad treatment from the league and it's cadre of cretins. Gillis and the Aqualinis need to rally all these other owners and GMs and sue the NHL. Get them onside and, with the necessary (75%?), fire Bettman, Campbell, Shanahan, etc. Surely the franchise agreement has clauses about fairness and equal opportunities.

To compete for the Stanley Cup you have to make the playoffs. To make the playoffs you put your best ("bigger and better") lineup out there every time making the playoffs is in jeopardy. NHL coaches know who is giving them the best chance better than fans. You can't win it unless you're in it. Once you're in, anything can happen. The odds of winning the cup are always long. The more times you are in the playoffs the better your chances of winning. You plan for the future as well as for this year so that you can get to the dance every year. You don't sell the farm and ruin your future, especially in a year like this. What effect on the team going forward do you expect when you want them to "procure" a higher draft pick? Shredder has been ineffective. Bigger (and better) guys like Kassian have been able to hold off defenders and get the job done. Torts knows better than we do who is getting results. Minny may not be Boston, but if we are bigger and can dominate them, we have a better chance to win. Right now the team is playing very well and really digging in to the battle. If we are eliminated from contention, so be it, but at least all tried their best. That you can build a foundation on for future runs at the cup, not the difference between a 9th and 12th pick in a weak draft.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, i.e. that Reinhart was great but we got him late. Also, that almost nobody in the modern era was as good as Scotty. We also had Jeff Brown and Kevin McCarthy who could both move the puck.

You don't get it? Richardson, Mathias, and Dalpe are bigger and better than Schroeder and we want to win tonight, not please somebody's mom. The only reason to play him is to (hopefully) showcase him so some value can be retrieved when he is included as a part in a bigger trade. If we get eliminated, we can show Jordan to potential suitors. You don't understand? The whole point is to make the playoffs so you can contend for the cup. Tanking is not good for any team.

Reduced though because (thankfully) schools back in.

saw stall 27 behind him in the video

I would like to see: Higgins Kesler Burrows Dalpe Sedin Hansen Sestito Matthias Grenier Booth Schroeder Richardson Jensen I think the team needs these meetings: Aqualinis with Gillis (seems to have been done). Gillis and Gilman with Torts (we need to make the plan fit the players). Torts with his assistants (seems to be some disconnect/disagreement in each dynamic: Torts/Sullivan Torts/Guilman(sp?) and Sully/G-Man). Torts and his assistants with the captain, then the "A"s, and then the team. The team without any management.

= Mathius ??

Markstrom

Start the 4th line. Game on!

If there is more footage; let's see it.

Bettman looks like a complete troll in that video.

What do we know past the CBC clip? Perhaps Torts was walking it off out in the hall when some Calgary Clown came at him from their dressing room. Torts barks back and the media spin the rest.

Slats was always a jerk. Merry Christmas to the Rangers from His Smugness. This could work for us though. Who does Torts wish he still had from the Rangers? Who does AV want from the Canucks? Who don't they want off their new teams? Santa Claus (GMMG) is clearing room, making lists, checking with Torts, going to find out who is naughty or nice, and maybe, just maybe, getting the last pieces of the Stanley Cup puzzle.