soshified Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Very good, it would be great for people with no cars, but it sure would mess with traffic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 Man hit in head by passing SkyTrain Updated: Wed Mar. 18 2009 11:36:36 ctvbc.ca A man is in critical condition in Royal Columbian Hospital in New Westminster, B.C., after being hit in the head by a passing out-of-service SkyTrain on Tuesday night. The man, who was standing on the platform at the Gateway Station in Surrey, was feeling ill and was doubled over with his head above the track when the train came through at 40 km per hour, said Derek Zable of TransLink. The incident happened around 11 p.m. The platform was packed with people at the time - with many coming home from Tuesday's Canucks game. Zable said the man had bent over once but had stood back as an in-service train arrived at the platform. Once it pulled away, he had bent over again, only to be struck by the second train. Zable added that a reader's board usually displays information about arriving trains for passengers. Out-of-service trains do not normally stop at stations. The man's name and age have not been released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 ^Retard^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 It appears that the West Coast Express is getting some improvements: Mar 19, 2009 19:53 ET Media Advisory: Infrastructure Canada VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA--(Marketwire - March 19, 2009) - The Honourable Stockwell Day, Minister of International Trade and Minister for the Asia-Pacific Gateway and the Premier of British Columbia, Gordon Campbell will make an important announcement on infrastructure. Date: March 20, 2009 Time: 10:15 a.m. Location: Westcoast Express Waterfront Station, 601 West Cordova Street, Vancouver, British Columbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckyHermit Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I've never been to Commercial/Broadway during AM Peak. Thank God... I've been through there only a handful of times during AM peak, but man oh man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trek Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Man hit in head by passing SkyTrain Updated: Wed Mar. 18 2009 11:36:36 ctvbc.ca A man is in critical condition in Royal Columbian Hospital in New Westminster, B.C., after being hit in the head by a passing out-of-service SkyTrain on Tuesday night. The man, who was standing on the platform at the Gateway Station in Surrey, was feeling ill and was doubled over with his head above the track when the train came through at 40 km per hour, said Derek Zable of TransLink. The incident happened around 11 p.m. The platform was packed with people at the time - with many coming home from Tuesday's Canucks game. Zable said the man had bent over once but had stood back as an in-service train arrived at the platform. Once it pulled away, he had bent over again, only to be struck by the second train. Zable added that a reader's board usually displays information about arriving trains for passengers. Out-of-service trains do not normally stop at stations. The man's name and age have not been released. why would you bend over and puke onto the track? why not try to hurl into a garbage can or something... much safer since you'd never know when train would come by while you are keeled over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_1 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 It appears that the West Coast Express is getting some improvements: probably announce the purcahse of some new rail cars that was already happening anyways. If the government was serious about infrastructure, shovels would be in the ground tomorrow for the millenium line extenstion to UBC. Top 2 transportation stimilus projects that should be top priorities 1. UBC Sky train expansion 2. Pattulo bridge replacement with new rail bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 probably announce the purcahse of some new rail cars that was already happening anyways. If the government was serious about infrastructure, shovels would be in the ground tomorrow for the millenium line extenstion to UBC. Top 2 transportation stimilus projects that should be top priorities 1. UBC Sky train expansion 2. Pattulo bridge replacement with new rail bridge 1. It can't happen tomorrow. They still have to do all the impact studies and what not to ensure that Broadway doesn't become the new Cambie, or so I've heard. Also, the crews will be working on the Evergreen line, and I think that means the boring machines will be shifted there. Buying more is expensive. 2. That bridge is almost not worth replacing. The Surrey side could handle some more capacity, but the New West side is a huge bottleneck. To properly do the project McBride/10th would have to be redone, and a new interchange to Columbia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 probably announce the purcahse of some new rail cars that was already happening anyways. If the government was serious about infrastructure, shovels would be in the ground tomorrow for the millenium line extenstion to UBC. Top 2 transportation stimilus projects that should be top priorities 1. UBC Sky train expansion 2. Pattulo bridge replacement with new rail bridge Why not have a rail system from downtown all the way out to Langley/Chilliwack that runs down the centre of the Trans Canada? It could have major stops in Langley, Surrey, Burnaby, East Van and Downtown. Above grade, not Skytrain but good old fashioned rail technology. Like West Coast Express only another cooridor. Also, add a $100 a year public transit tax on all ICBC policies (one per vehicle) with a rebate for each vehicle used less than 4000 km per year or something like that. I know many would cry a river over that but it would benefit EVERYONE to encourage people to get out of their cars and be more like it is here in Europe. Do it before you HAVE to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanuck14 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 2. That bridge is almost not worth replacing. The Surrey side could handle some more capacity, but the New West side is a huge bottleneck. To properly do the project McBride/10th would have to be redone, and a new interchange to Columbia... Not sure how you see it is not worth replacing. The bridge is so old and was not made to handle the current load of traffic. I would not want to be on that bridge in an earthquake for one. If anything a new bridge would remove the bottleneck in New West if it were a 6 lane bridge (or a 5 lane counterflow system) which I would think is what they would want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Not sure how you see it is not worth replacing. The bridge is so old and was not made to handle the current load of traffic. I would not want to be on that bridge in an earthquake for one. If anything a new bridge would remove the bottleneck in New West if it were a 6 lane bridge (or a 5 lane counterflow system) which I would think is what they would want. Considering we're in Vancouver, I doubt you'd want to be on any bridge during an earthquake. But I agree. Even as a non-New West or Surrey citizen, the bridge needs to be replaced. The recent catastrophe and shutting down proved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_1 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 2. That bridge is almost not worth replacing. The Surrey side could handle some more capacity, but the New West side is a huge bottleneck. To properly do the project McBride/10th would have to be redone, and a new interchange to Columbia... The bridge was constructed in 1936 and you don't think it needs repacing? It will be 75 years old next year; the Port Mann on the other hand will be 45 years old when it is scheduled for demolition. So really a Pattulo bridge replacement is 20 years overdue while the construction of the new Port Mann is 10 years too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 The bridge was constructed in 1936 and you don't think it needs repacing? It will be 75 years old next year; the Port Mann on the other hand will be 45 years old when it is scheduled for demolition. So really a Pattulo bridge replacement is 20 years overdue while the construction of the new Port Mann is 10 years too early. There are bridges all over Europe more than 500 years old.....age is not the determining factor if you can make a good commitment to public transit. The mentality that we have to continually build more capacity for cars is fundamentally flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 1. It can't happen tomorrow. They still have to do all the impact studies and what not to ensure that Broadway doesn't become the new Cambie, or so I've heard. Also, the crews will be working on the Evergreen line, and I think that means the boring machines will be shifted there. Buying more is expensive. 2. That bridge is almost not worth replacing. The Surrey side could handle some more capacity, but the New West side is a huge bottleneck. To properly do the project McBride/10th would have to be redone, and a new interchange to Columbia... 1. Sure, you could start up the planning and engineering though. That would pretty much be needed to figure out the impacts anyways. Also, I would bet it goes under tenth, not Broadway. 2. You would have to redo a whack of track if you fixed up the bridge anyways, so might as well do it as one large mega project anyways. Either way, I concur with Tom's priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Why not have a rail system from downtown all the way out to Langley/Chilliwack that runs down the centre of the Trans Canada? It could have major stops in Langley, Surrey, Burnaby, East Van and Downtown. Above grade, not Skytrain but good old fashioned rail technology. Like West Coast Express only another cooridor. Also, add a $100 a year public transit tax on all ICBC policies (one per vehicle) with a rebate for each vehicle used less than 4000 km per year or something like that. I know many would cry a river over that but it would benefit EVERYONE to encourage people to get out of their cars and be more like it is here in Europe. Do it before you HAVE to do it. Down the middle of the higway is a silly place for rail. For one thing, the curve requirements are longer than for a highway, and the overhead crossings would have to be higher. Besides, rail can transfer to skytrain at scott road. They happen to match up as the skytrain follows the old interuban right of way. You would have to do some serious double tracking to get the rail past langley though. And for christ sakes, stop upping the ICBC rate. Just do it as a gas tax, not only does it reward people who drive less, fuel effecient vehicles get a break. If you want to change insurance, bill people per kilmoter driven if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 There are bridges all over Europe more than 500 years old.....age is not the determining factor if you can make a good commitment to public transit. The mentality that we have to continually build more capacity for cars is fundamentally flawed. Sadly, the putello wasn't designed to last 500 years, and unless some serious upgrades are done, you won't be even be able to use it in the not too distant future. If it turns out to be cheaper to replace the bridge, than to fix it, why not fix it? Also, if you think it's old, the rail bridge is the oldest in the region. It's the ORIGINAL bridge over the river, over 100 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_1 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 The provincial and federal governments have agreed to fund some of the $280 million to be spent on transit upgrades across Metro Vancouver. The balance will come from TransLink and municipal governments, including $118 million from the Province and $88.3 million from the Federal government. Some of the projects include the expansion of the Main Street and Scott Road Skytrain stations and $75 million worth of new Skytrain cars. The Westcoast Express will get seven additional cars and upgrades to the Waterfront and Mission stations. Premier Gordon Campbell and federal International Trade Minister Stockwell Day say the infrastructure upgrades will create roughly 1700 jobs. The Scott Road skytrain expansion should be configured for a future interuban rail interchange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 ^ worse announcement ever......it's a reannouncement of things we already know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanuck14 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 ^ worse announcement ever......it's a reannouncement of things we already know! Yes but an election is coming up so Gordo needs all the photo ops he can get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) The Scott Road skytrain expansion should be configured for a future interuban rail interchange Now yer thinkin! Gordo should make sure they get to use the tracks for wce after 2014 though! Would be a waste of money if they don't! Edited March 20, 2009 by ronthecivil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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