ronthecivil Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 BTW at existing volumes if you put a toll in similar to the Port Mann you could justify about 2 billion in expenses which should fix everything and not clog up Surrey and New West waterfront with people trying to dodge the Port Mann toll. Also you eliminate the biggest train bottleneck in the city which would allow for better competition for freight trains and even make service to Seattle much more viable. And it should be enough that the road part of the road rejigging is to put in the North Fraser Perimeter road as well as a nice waterfront greenway. Basically you would be using the road tolls to subidise the hell out of a bunch of other stuff. And with HOV lanes you could make a feeder bus that basically went the long way around between New West and pick a station in Surrey that would be an uber collector for the skytrain. The better connectivity would allow for bike and walking across the bridge which would help making a twin cities on the river planning model of dense developement that much more feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Get on it then Ron. Who do I have to sleep with to make this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Urban arterial. Not highway. Kind of like marine way in Burnaby where the road is near the water but the waterfront is actually a park with a greenway in it. Incidently, New West drew up plans where they would build their downtown core overtop of the road, so even if it was highway standard it wouldn't be in the way. That way the road (whatever form) isn't in the way, and people going through new west don't jam up the whole town (default setting for New West). And you still keep your waterfont access. Win win. How would you build the downtown core on top of the road, since it is already developed? Are you talking about tunnelling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 How would you build the downtown core on top of the road, since it is already developed? Are you talking about tunnelling? They used to have a plan up where they redevelope into high density (mixed use towers) then basically started up the hill a little bit and basically went over top of the roadways near the water so you would have a flat portion of town and the bottom of the hill that went right to the waterfront without the road and rails being in the way. Just like near GM place where there's an upstairs and a downstairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Get on it then Ron. Who do I have to sleep with to make this happen? Keep in mind it's the "write to the province topic" if you feel like stealing ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weber's Playoff Beard Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) So anyone want to update me about the Evergreen Line process and where they're at? Edited March 9, 2011 by HeChats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 So anyone want to update me about the Evergreen Line process and where they're at? Translink is still broke. Province is going to have an election soon and may soon have it's budget dramatically altered by a summer referendum. Feds might be going to the polls if their budget gets defeated, an not so unlikely scenario. Those are the three funding parterners. Do the math. (I actually prefer the casino approach, elections might actually make something happen!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I don't see the point of having evergreen line if it doesn't reach maple ridge Instead they're building a station near the club 16 gym, I dun think many people will ride from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) http://www.translink.ca/ubcline Next round of consultation for the UBC Line from now until April 22nd. The alternative designs and the questionnaire. Lots more on the website. Edited March 30, 2011 by inane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 http://www.translink.ca/ubcline Next round of consultation for the UBC Line from now until April 22nd. The alternative designs and the questionnaire. Lots more on the website. Well they don't even have funding yet for the evergreen line yet so kind of premature. But say they find money for evergreen and it starts getting built next summer. Fine. Then we move to this. But even in the future were going to be low on money, so that has to be taken into consideration. Building an underground line all the way out (3 billion cost) would be the best decision in the long run if you can find the money. It would have low operating costs since it would be very busy from day one. (Bline already has 100k riders per day expecting 40k more with an evergreen extension and direct connect with RAV is probably an underestimate really). If they are low on money you can save a billion by building underground to arbutus and then putting in rapid bus the rest of the way (and overlapping a little as they have shown though I think they could loose that as well). It still leaves the option to go all the way to UBC in the future if they get more money. The street level LRT projects ridership barely above the existing 99 bline. Costly and slow, not the kind of thing for this dense urban corridor. (A future LRT that follows the waterfront and then goes up the arbutus corridor would be fine though, not to mention in places like surrey). So grade seperated rail all the way or barring that at least till arbutus. No to street level rail in the broadway corridor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 http://www.translink.ca/ubcline Next round of consultation for the UBC Line from now until April 22nd. The alternative designs and the questionnaire. Lots more on the website. There's quite a bit of stuff there. RRT for me. LRT just doesn't have enough advantages over BRT to justify the cost, but anything that uses the street level in dedicated lanes is going to be a traffic clusterfrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 There is a sign on the bus fare box this morning stating that the new fare cars will be called the compass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 There is a sign on the bus fare box this morning stating that the new fare cars will be called the compass. Will they be using smart cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Will they be using smart cards? Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opmac Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Here's an article from the Georgia Straight: TransLink today (March 31) announced its new electronic fare card will be called Compass. The pre-paid electronic fare card will be part of a new network-wide fare-payment system that will incorporate faregate barriers on the SkyTrain and SeaBus routes. TransLink says the new electronic card will simplify fare payment while the gates will address fare evasion. Construction work on the $170-million project is slated to start this spring with the system operating by 2013. Burnaby resident Oleksiy Gayda was the winner of a public contest to name the new fare card. Today Gayda received his prize of an iPad and a “year’s worth” of free transit once the new fare-card system is in place, TransLink said. Gayda was randomly selected as the contest winner after TransLink received more than 70 entries suggesting the name Compass. In total, more than 56,000 entries were received last fall as part of the public naming contest, TransLink says. After TransLink selected the top-three names—Compass, Starfish, and TPass—a public vote was held to determine the winner. Compass earned more than 40 percent of the votes, TransLink said. The fare-card design features the word Compass on a blue background with a directional symbol around the letter "C". This morning, dozens of TransLink employees were handing out blue Compass buttons and providing information to transit riders across the system. TransLink spokesperson Michael Madill said he was pleased with the public response. “People like the name. It’s kind of catchy,” Madill told the Straight. “People are excited that we’re moving to a new fare-card system,” he added. “Mostly people who’ve been travelling, they know what systems are in place in London, Hong Kong, Europe, the States, so they’re just excited to see that coming to Vancouver now.” Madill said the faregate system will help ease concerns about fare evasion. “It won’t solve the fare-evasion problem but it certainly will reduce it. And people will be able to feel more safe and secure on the system.” Madill said there will be little change to the existing fare system at first, once the fare card is introduced. “There may be some small tweaks but generally we’ll keep the zone system in place until we get some data about our customer movements and we work out a system that’s better and even more fair than the system that we have now.” Madill said distance-based fare payment could be an option. He said the Compass brand will be useful as the new fare system is rolled out. “We’ll have a lot of messages for people over the next couple of years to transition to the new system so this’ll help lead the way.” He said construction related to the faregate system will likely start by late May or early June. SkyTrain riders offered a mixed response today after learning about the new farecard name. SFU student Michelle Cheng said Compass was the best of the final-three names. “TPass sounds like a cheap imitation of the U-Pass,” she said, referring to the universal transit pass for postsecondary students. “Compass is the best one but it still doesn’t really stick out,” she told the Straight. Marty Wood said Compass is a good name. “It relates to where you’re going and the direction. It’s as good a name as any other,” the New Westminster resident told the Straight. Vancouver resident Andrew Witt said he was more concerned about the planned faregate system than the naming contest. “Names don’t matter. What matters is barriers,” he told the Straight, calling the faregates “an instance of increased policing”. Asked about the fare-card name, Witt said: “I think the more ridiculous it is, the better. Starfish is far superior.” Burnaby resident Sean Canasa questioned the need for a faregate system. “I think it’s just a waste of money honestly,” he told the Straight. http://straight.com/article-384521/vancouver/compass-picked-winning-name-new-translink-fare-card Compass was the best name out of the three. Tpass sounds a lot like T-Pain. Starfish just doesn't have the ring to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitronuts Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 I quite like it...the only issue is that it isn't original, we copied San Diego's name: ...as long as the card works fine, I'll be satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I quite like it...the only issue is that it isn't original, we copied San Diego's name: ...as long as the card works fine, I'll be satisfied. Sooner or later, everyone copies each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Excuse my ignorance but how does the casual transit user (a few times a year) use the new pass/system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Excuse my ignorance but how does the casual transit user (a few times a year) use the new pass/system? YOu can still just buy a regular ticket. This is for frequent users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) aaaaaah, thanks. Edited April 1, 2011 by J.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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