-Vintage Canuck- Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 10-storey building would be tallest such structure on continent, minister says: B.C. is moving ahead with plans to build what is expected to be the tallest wood building in North America and possibly the world, Jobs Minister Pat Bell said Wednesday. The proposed 10-storey Wood Innovation and Design Centre in Prince George will become a test case for creating a value-added forest products industry around tall wood building construction methods that would differ radically from the way traditional mid-rise and even highrise buildings are constructed. Bell told The Vancouver Sun that within 30 days, the province will seek qualified firms to design and construct the building out of engineered wood beam products instead of traditional concrete and steel beams. The province has already received 34 expressions of interest. The wood building would be the tallest in B.C., “likely North America and possibly the world,” Bell said. The plan comes at the same time a new study produced for the Wood Enterprise Coalition by Vancouver architect Michael Green and several others suggests engineered wood skyscrapers of up to 30 storeys can be safely built using this new wood technology. In an interview, Green said he expects that within five years, buildings between 10 and 20 storeys will be built in B.C. using any one of a number of laminated engineered wood products. But for that to happen, the province needs to change its building code. The code now limits wood buildings to six storeys, but that is based on wood-frame construction methods using studs and wood cladding. Green’s study says laminated wood beams and slabs — which can range up to 1.2 metres (four feet) wide, 18 centimetres (seven inches) thick and 19.5 metres (64 feet) long — have similar properties to concrete and steel and can be used to replace them in many cases. The resulting building would be lighter, comparable in cost and far more environmentally friendly than steel and concrete. They would be more fire-resistant than wood-frame buildings, meeting the same requirements as concrete and steel buildings. “There are a lot of people and nations starting to look at these ideas. But right now our report is the first to show how to do it in a predominantly wood way at the scale we are talking about,” Green said. “It is an extremely unique moment where Canada is really leading the world in this conversation.” Green said he was motivated to propose tall wood buildings as a way to tackle climate change. Wood acts as a carbon sink, locking in carbon dioxide as long as it doesn’t rot or burn. “Concrete production is responsible for five to eight per cent of the world’s carbon emissions. Steel production eats up four per cent of the world’s energy.” Manufacturing engineered wood products does require some energy, but the carbon footprint is less than other forms of production. “We have been looking at solutions to make our buildings perform better, and that is important. But we really haven’t stepped back and said, ‘Are we building our buildings with the right material in the first place?’ ” He said the cost of building a 12-storey wood building in Vancouver would be the same as for concrete, at about $283 per square foot. A 20-storey wood tower would cost marginally more than concrete, at $300 per square foot versus $294. But Bell sees another major silver lining in developing tall buildings out of engineered wood products. “All governments have talked over the years about a value-added forest products industry but I don’t think anyone has really ever delivered that,” the minister said. “I think the opportunities around non-residential tall building construction as it relates to softwood is the first really good value-added industry opportunity I’ve seen.” He said for the engineered wood building industry to be successful, it has to develop the technical expertise, create production capacity and change outdated building codes that don’t contemplate using wood beams instead of steel or concrete. As a result, Bell said the province is pushing ahead with the Prince George tower as a demonstration project, which will either be given a ministerial exemption or qualify under an “alternative materials” section of the building code. In either case, the design would have to meet current engineering standards around structural, fire and safety limits, he said. The building would be used as a teaching and research centre for developing innovative wood products. Bell wouldn’t give an estimate of the cost, but media in Prince George reported it may cost upwards of $75 million. http://www.vancouver..._medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Sounds good, but I've heard the insurance costs and other legal liabilities make it almost the same cost as concrete.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinogator Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 we're suppose to have that giant earthquake coming.... not sure if this is the best idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 we're suppose to have that giant earthquake coming.... not sure if this is the best idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
î мцšт вяздк чфµ Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 but i thought i had the biggest wood every morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truculence Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 But PG already has a wood tower... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 but i thought i had the biggest wood every morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 That sounds cool. The forestry building at UBC is gorgeous, and I love the look of the engineered wood "tree" columns they have holding up the atrium. Engineered wood + brick or engineered wood + glass would look beautiful. I always thought that the whitecaps stadium should be over the train tracks and made out of that kind of engineered wood, with a view of burrard inlet and the mountains. What's more, if we develop this technology here and commercialize it, it can revitalize the forestry industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Well for condos it would suck. I already would not own a condo in any wood frame building due to the noise problem. Its a serious problem. A deal breaker. I own in a concrete tower and even with its downtown location I dont hear anything from outside or the units around me at all. Ever. Until I open a window or door. And thats how I like it. I used to live in a couple of diff 3 story lowrise wood buildings when I was renting and you get to be very familiar with your neighbors and their most intimate of noises coming from below, above and beside you every day. you can hear their TVs, music, talking, yelling, walking, and in one particular case a young lady who was very vocal about giving direction to what was being done to her late at night in vivid detail. The problem would be the same for companies in a business tower and schools of every type. Noise travels through wood and even though sound suppression may be in place it never works fully. I was unimpressed when they raised the height restrictions on low rise wood buildings from 3 storeys to 5 and Im more unimpressed with this possible development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYC Canuck fan Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Really, REALLY hope that no one drops a cigarette butt in the wrong place or that place will be the world's largest meat smoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpig Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Well for condos it would suck. I already would not own a condo in any wood frame building due to the noise problem. Its a serious problem. A deal breaker. I own in a concrete tower and even with its downtown location I dont hear anything from outside or the units around me at all. Ever. Until I open a window or door. And thats how I like it. I used to live in a couple of diff 3 story lowrise wood buildings when I was renting and you get to be very familiar with your neighbors and their most intimate of noises coming from below, above and beside you every day. you can hear their TVs, music, talking, yelling, walking, and in one particular case a young lady who was very vocal about giving direction to what was being done to her late at night in vivid detail. The problem would be the same for companies in a business tower and schools of every type. Noise travels through wood and even though sound suppression may be in place it never works fully. I was unimpressed when they raised the height restrictions on low rise wood buildings from 3 storeys to 5 and Im more unimpressed with this possible development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect From Now On Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 They've got to do something with all those dead trees around PG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 rest in pieces sweet building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Didn't the biggest wood frame building burnt down during construction in the lower mainland last year? I think it was in Surrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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