Mr. Ambien Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Just give people healthcare and affordable housing and they can live on minimum wage LOL, right which doesnt work if theres no company b to work for. Even in government controlled industries there's Company B's to work for, but since we're talking about fast food joints, there's Company A, B, C, F, probably almost all the way to Z. And like I said about Calgary, they pay their fast food workers far more than minimum wage after a year or two because most of the demand is for higher paying jobs. The issue with your math here is that there is infinite person A's so companies don't need to fight with competitive wages in order to secure them. That would only work if person A was actually in demand. I take my touch screens with a a hint of Big Mac sauce smothered on the screen. There was never a suggestion that there were infinite companies, but there are no shortage of companies that need workers here in Calgary. Logically, one goes where the demand is, or, they sit around and hope jobs come to them, and deal with what they deal with. Can't force people not to be stupid. What company on this planet has infinite positions? If company B has their positions filled, there will be 14 applicants for every company A position. In turn, company B will offer lower wages due to high demand for jobs. That's exactly what is happening today. Your example is pure fiction. That's when, either the employee, finds a better industry to work in, or finds another place where workers are more in demand, and where they can make more, if they absolutely must work in the fast food industry / service sector. Again, there are plenty of options.. the fact that so many wish to be lazy and not take options available to them does not mean options aren't there. Nor am I stating there are "infinite" options, which is an utterly asinine statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I could never work at any fast food place. Those guys work their asses off for peanuts. It not so much the low wage that made me never apply for those jobs, its the freaking pace they have to work at. My first after school job was 'butcher boy' at a butcher shop...where else? That job kept me pretty busy too, dismantiling, cleaning then reassambling the cutting equipment. Cleaning the display fridges, etc. What does this have to do with fast food? Idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 LOL, right Even in government controlled industries there's Company B's to work for, but since we're talking about fast food joints, there's Company A, B, C, F, probably almost all the way to Z. And like I said about Calgary, they pay their fast food workers far more than minimum wage after a year or two because most of the demand is for higher paying jobs. There was never a suggestion that there were infinite companies, but there are no shortage of companies that need workers here in Calgary. Logically, one goes where the demand is, or, they sit around and hope jobs come to them, and deal with what they deal with. Can't force people not to be stupid. That's when, either the employee, finds a better industry to work in, or finds another place where workers are more in demand, and where they can make more, if they absolutely must work in the fast food industry / service sector. Again, there are plenty of options.. the fact that so many wish to be lazy and not take options available to them does not mean options aren't there. Nor am I stating there are "infinite" options, which is an utterly asinine statement. Calgary has no relevance here, thats asinine to even mention, were talking about the USA. In small town America, theyre lucky if they have company A as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Calgary has no relevance here, thats asinine to even mention, were talking about the USA. In small town America, theyre lucky if they have company A as an option. If they're out in buttfrack nowhere and there are no companies, they should likely be more self-sufficient than relying on a company, I would think, for their livelihood. Of course, I'm the only one thinking here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 If they're out in buttfrack nowhere and there are no companies, they should likely be more self-sufficient than relying on a company, I would think, for their livelihood. Of course, I'm the only one thinking here. But youre not, youre just trolling nonsense. If the energy industry collapses like it did in the late 80s, you might have to work at McDonalds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 But youre not, youre just trolling nonsense. What? Someone doesn't agree with me? They must be trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 But youre not, youre just trolling nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 What? Someone doesn't agree with me? They must be trolling. Have anything relevant to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 See? Thats what I think of guys like Ron Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 See? Thats what I think of guys like Ron Paul. You don't believe in freedom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 You don't believe in freedom? Of people, not corporations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Of people, not corporations But without government, who would give corporations fictional legal status and limited-liability for shareholders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 But without government, who would give corporations fictional legal status and limited-liability for shareholders? "dur.. I am Groot?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If it is $15 per hour for jobs with liitle skills, then jobs that are semi-skilled will demand $20-$25, more skilled jobs, $30-35, etc up the line. If all wages up, then prices of goods/services go up to compensate. In the end its the same result. Fuck that, I don't get out of bed for less than $38/hr. If duds can make 15-20 I would fully expect to make $50+/hr and 70-90/hr if I went to somewhere progressive like northern Alberta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyledude Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 These people may not realize it, but they're actually fighting for their own unemployment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 These people may not realize it, but they're actually fighting for their own unemployment. If they're working for the current minimum wage, they can usually find a job that pays the same. If theyre successful, their fight will have been won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If they're working for the current minimum wage, they can usually find a job that pays the same. If theyre successful, their fight will have been won. So they can go whine about wages at that job too, while never realizing how replaceable they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If they're working for the current minimum wage, they can usually find a job that pays the same. If theyre successful, their fight will have been won. You forget though, they will all be fighting for those same jobs. Many would stay unemployed while some of their former co-workers are working those other jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebuddy Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 You forget though, they will all be fighting for those same jobs. Many would stay unemployed while some of their former co-workers are working those other jobs. Isnt that always the way it is when you're fighting for your rights? Maybe they'll find sympathetic employers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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