[article] Vancouver Canucks: Which Young Players Are Subject To Waivers in 2015-16?

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Good idea to do this recap.

I tend to prefer to just use the table in the CBA - don't know how to upload an image but it's Art. 13.4 where they list eligibility at signing age (so my wording below might be a bit different but it should lead to the same conclusion).

See bolded. Kenins is indeed waiver exempt as he has not yet reached the 70 NHL game mark - see also post #7 for explanations by JamesB.

As stated by Quantum in post #12 - Friesen is waiver eligible this year. He signed as a 21 year old in May 2012 - so he had 3 years of exemption.

You may want to add to the list the upcoming ones too - as they could be call-ups before they hit waiver eligibility.

2016/17: Grenier, Pedan, Jensen, Kenins (unless he reaches 70 NHL games earlier)

2017/18: Gaunce, Shinkaruk

Pedan signed in April 2013 as a 20 year old - 3 years or 160 games. (He played in the AHL in April 2013 but on an ATO and not his ELC).

Nicklas Jensen signed in September 2011 as an 18 year old - 5 years or 160 games.

Brendan Gaunce signed in August 2012 as an 18 year old - 5 years or 160 games.

Hunter Shinkaruk signed in August 2013 as a 19 year old - 4 years or 160 games.

I didn't write the original article. Even the "Edits" in the article are from the original author and not mine. I only bolded the names (as I noted at the end.) Given that it's a quote of an article, I won't be making any edits to the original content.

(Edit: In case it isn't clear, the title of the article is a link to the original source.)

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**EDIT - NOT SURE ON THIS ONE - BelcherBD suggests that the seasons are calculated based on the year that the contract is first signed, rather than current age. If that's the case, he could have one more waiver-eligible year, which will end when he plays his 70th NHL game.

Belcher is correct, otherwise the table in Article 13.4 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement (quoted below) with an entry for 18 year olds and 5 years from signing (for skaters) wouldn't make any sense. In fact, the quote in the original post is mostly accurate but doesn't take into account the fact that the relevant age is the age from first signing. Article 13.4 of the CBA states the rules in table form with clarifications and additions at the bottom and examples at the end. Without the examples at the end it reads as follows (the part quoted from the CBA in italics):

13.4 Exempt Players. Players who meet the criteria set forth below are exempt from Regular

Waivers:

GOALIES

Age Years from Signing NHL NHL Games Played

18 6 80

19 5 80

20 4 80

21 4 60

22 4 60

23 3 60

24 2 60

25+ 1 --

Skaters

Age Years from Signing NHL NHL Games Played

18 5 160

19 4 160

20 3 160

21 3 80

22 3 70

23 3 60

24 2 60

25+ 1 --

As used above, NHL Games include NHL Regular Season and NHL Playoff

Games.

The exemption from Regular Waivers ends immediately upon a Player playing in

the number of NHL Games set forth in the applicable column above.

For purposes of Regular Waivers, the five (5) year exemption for an 18 year old

skater and the four (4) year exemption for a 19 year old skater shall both be reduced to three (3)

years commencing the first season that the 18 or 19 year old skater plays in eleven (11) NHL

Games or more. The next two (2) seasons, regardless of whether the skater plays any NHL

Games in either season, shall count as the second and third years toward satisfying the

exemption.

For purposes of Regular Waivers, the six (6) year exemption for an 18 year old

goalie and the five (5) year exemption for a 19 year old goalie shall both be reduced to four (4)

years commencing the first season that the 18 or 19 year old goalie plays in eleven (11) NHL

Games or more. The next three (3) seasons, regardless of whether the goalie plays any NHL

Games in any of those three (3) seasons, shall count as the next three (3) years toward satisfying

the exemption.

The first season in which a Player who is age 20 or older plays in one (1) or more

Professional Games shall constitute the first year for calculating the number of years he is

exempt from Regular Waivers.

A Player 25 years old or older who plays in one (1) or more Professional Games

in any season shall be exempt from Regular Waivers for the remainder of that season.

For Players age 20 or older, Professional Games include NHL Games, all minor

league regular season and playoff games and any other professional games, including but not

limited to, play in European leagues when Player is on Loan to such club, and while Player is

party to an SPC.

Note:

1. For purposes of this Article, a "year" of exemption shall mean a playing season.

2. For purposes of this Article, "age 18" means a Player reaching his eighteenth

birthday between January 1 next preceding the Entry Draft and September 15

next following the Entry Draft, both dates included; "age 19" means a Player

reaching his nineteenth birthday in the calendar year of the Entry Draft; "age 20"

means a Player reaching his twentieth birthday in the calendar year of the Entry

Draft; and "age 21" means a Player reaching his twenty-first birthday in the

calendar year of the Entry Draft.

_________________________________________

The conclusions reached for players in the original post are correct.

Kenins signed his NHL contract at age 22 in 2013, so has 3 seasons or 70 games of waiver exemption, meaning he's exempt from waivers this coming season until after his 35th game this season.

Corrado is waiver eligible only because the 11 game standard to shorten the waiver exemption for 18 and 19 years olds to three seasons was prorated for the strike-shortened season so his 7 NHL games in 2011-12 was his first of three waiver exempt seasons that just ended.

Pedan was signed as a 20 year old in 2013 so had 3 seasons from signing, so this season will be his last being waiver exempt.

Gaunce was signed as an 18 year old in 2012 so had 5 seasons which will end after 2016-17 unless he somehow manages to play 160 NHL games before the end of the next 2 seasons.

Cassels, Shinkaruk, Subban, and Cederholm all have to the end of the 2017-18 season or 160 NHL games, for different reasons based on their years of signing.

[Nave]

If Kenins is indeed waiver exempt, then I am glad.

[Hairy Kneel]

Why isn't Vey waiver exempt?as a 2nd year player?

[GreyHatnDart]

Why isn't Vey waiver exempt?as a 2nd year player?

It says up there:

A 24 year old

EDIT : EFF WORKING ON PHONES

Anyways, "a 24 year old who signed his first NHL contract at least two years previously (by age 22) becomes waiver eligible after 60 games"

[Hairy Kneel]

thanks