nucklehead53 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 get well daniel, while Keith gets 5 games, dany suffers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverStyle Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Anyone know how long Daniel is suppose to be out? Has there been any updates since the hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Anyone know how long Daniel is suppose to be out? Has there been any updates since the hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Reasonably fair? Uhuh. Sorry. Nope. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggernut Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Shanaban video... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binderdonedat Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Uh, ok then. Feel free to show me how, when compared to other suspensions in the NHL, it was not fair. I'm not asking if you think there should be tougher penalties for head shots and the like that cause injuries, but if it matches the precedent set - particularly the precedent set by Shanahan this year. Do you seriously expect that Shanahan is just going to get fed up and suddenly throw out a 15-20 game suspension? We don't even know where Daniel is right now, whether he's already back doing light exercise, or still having symptoms, so to say it's the worst thing ever and the world should pay because he could never play again is asinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 And where did I say that I think they shouldn't penalize more or that Keith's hit wasn't intentional or that there isn't a potential for injury on plays like that? I do love how you completely ignored my point about it being fair when compared to other suspensions this year and that he can't just double/triple/quadruple suspensions without a reason to do so. All I asked is for you to provide evidence as to why he should have gotten considerably more (saying it clearly should have been 6 games to really hit them hard isn't considerably more, just in case your still confused) based on precedent as far as suspensions in the NHL go, whether you think it's right or not. Instead I got an essay on injury potential, the 'literal avalanche of hard facts' and a scolding me on hyperbole (which was rich after the literal avalanche comment), none of which was what I was talking about to begin with. If you expected more games considering what has been handed out thus far, you have no one to blame but yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binderdonedat Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 And where did I say that I think they shouldn't penalize more or that Keith's hit wasn't intentional or that there isn't a potential for injury on plays like that? I do love how you completely ignored my point about it being fair when compared to other suspensions this year and that he can't just double/triple/quadruple suspensions without a reason to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endtoend Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Jason Botchford just said everything he has heard points to Daniel starting in game one of the playoffs. He is on team 1040 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelixPotvin29 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I think we will make it past 1st round at least without him in the line-up. I would want him at 120% before putting him back in. Don't want him to have another setback and play that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suolucidir Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Yeah. Word is Daniel is doing well but he and the team are just taking every precaution since there's very little at stake in the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Where did you say it? When you spoke of the suspension being "fair". You then further qualified your assumption based on precedence/past hits as some sort of necessary measuring stick, all of which are mutually exclusive to the Keith hit. The only precendent consideration Shanny has to utilize in decisions like this are an offenders previous record of fines and suspensions. Hits are not analyzed comparitively. Each is judged on it's own axiomatic basis, from presented evidence. And even if that weren't true, this hit is so patently obvious there's simply no NEED to compare it to this season's past suspensions. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Karlsson`s Flo Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Jason Botchford just said everything he has heard points to Daniel starting in game one of the playoffs. He is on team 1040 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambojoe Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 If they want players to make different choices with their elbows they will need harsher penalties. I don't think Keith changes his game one wit due to this. But perhaps I am wrong and as a career NHL'er with a clean suspension history he is due the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks3322 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 second period intermission MG with Murph said that he expects Daniel and Bieska back in the lineup before playoff starts so I'm guessing Daniel will play at least one regular season game at least ( Get well soon Daniel we miss you !!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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