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Poll: Raymond or Hansen? (270 member(s) have cast votes)

Who's a better player Raymond or Hansen?

  1. Raymond (32 votes [11.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.85%

  2. Voted Hansen (238 votes [88.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 88.15%

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#91 WHFproductions

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:28 PM

raymond should get the amount of hate as luongo does.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:33 PM

Who cares?

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:53 PM

raymond should get the amount of hate as luongo does.


He would if his cap hit was $3m more. He gets a lot of hate just the same.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 02:54 PM

Who cares?


You cared enough to post your insightful comment. Oh...and I guess the 195 people that voted.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 04:38 PM

I'm happy this is a landslide in Hansen's favour. Makes me regain a bit of faith from Canucks fans.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 05:17 PM

Two different players.

Hansen is more valuable to us I think, but Raymond is still better

EDIT: So I prefer Hansen

Edited by .Naslund, 21 July 2012 - 05:17 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 07:36 PM

First break Hansens back, let him rehab it for 8 months, and then jump in mid season while wearing a back brace... Then we decide k?

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:12 PM

First break Hansens back, let him rehab it for 8 months, and then jump in mid season while wearing a back brace... Then we decide k?


What's Raymond's excuse for the season before his injury? Also, if Raymond wasn't fit to play, why did he come back so soon after his injury? It's his fault for coming back so soon if he wasn't able to train. You want to be in the lineup? Well, expect to perform, or you'll get heat for not doing so.

I'm honestly tired of the broken back excuses, as he had every right to stay out longer to train and come back later on in the season, but he didn't and he didn't perform, so expect heat for it. I'm happy he was able to recover, I don't hate Mason Raymond the person, I hate Mason Raymond the hockey player.

Anyways, I'd take Jannik Hansen over Mason Raymond last year, and the year before.

Edited by Bryan McCabe.24, 21 July 2012 - 08:13 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 09:58 PM

Injury or not, Hansen is a more rounded player and can therefore play in more situations. That makes him a better player. It's like comparing Calvin and Hobbes vs Bloom County. Calvin and Hobbes was consistently better, but I would actually laugh out loud sometimes reading Bloom County. Just because Raymond has spurts that make you excited it doesn't mean he is a better player or more useful to the team.
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Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:36 PM

What's Raymond's excuse for the season before his injury? Also, if Raymond wasn't fit to play, why did he come back so soon after his injury? It's his fault for coming back so soon if he wasn't able to train. You want to be in the lineup? Well, expect to perform, or you'll get heat for not doing so.

I'm honestly tired of the broken back excuses, as he had every right to stay out longer to train and come back later on in the season, but he didn't and he didn't perform, so expect heat for it. I'm happy he was able to recover, I don't hate Mason Raymond the person, I hate Mason Raymond the hockey player.

Anyways, I'd take Jannik Hansen over Mason Raymond last year, and the year before.


Good post, I agree with everything you said.
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:28 AM

Hansen, but Raymond still has more potential that he could reach. I feel they're both ready to break-out next season with 20-goal years, which will be great for our team if they're on the 3rd line. 20-goal scorers on the 3rd line of any team shows incredible depth and teams with this sort of offensive depth win Cups.

LA had Simon Gagne.
Boston had Marchand and Peverley (on pace for 20 goals)
Chicago had Byfuglien, Ladd and Versteeg.

In our run to the Cup we had guys in the 15-goal range, but not quite as skilled as the guys listed above on our 3rd lines which was the difference.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:14 PM

raymond should get the amount of hate as luongo does.


If not more

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:27 PM

A fit Raymond is better than a fit Hansen. Raymond is always playing against the better defenders. He is also unlucky that he plays with Booth and Kes who puck hog to a ridiculous degree.
Raymond is also better defensively, again likely to be up against better players.

Although salary is not definitive, why else would Raymond be making almost double what Hansen makes?

I would actually like to see Raymond with Higgins and Hansen on the 3rd if we continue to keep Booth.


Lol

This is where you lost me.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:28 PM

Hansen, but Raymond still has more potential that he could reach. I feel they're both ready to break-out next season with 20-goal years, which will be great for our team if they're on the 3rd line. 20-goal scorers on the 3rd line of any team shows incredible depth and teams with this sort of offensive depth win Cups.

LA had Simon Gagne.
Boston had Marchand and Peverley (on pace for 20 goals)
Chicago had Byfuglien, Ladd and Versteeg.

In our run to the Cup we had guys in the 15-goal range, but not quite as skilled as the guys listed above on our 3rd lines which was the difference.


So are you comparing Raymond to those guys?

If you are then: They all have grit, Raymond is soft.

Hansen could be our Versteeg or our Ladd or whatever, but I don't think Raymond will ever be that for us.


EDIT: I kind of see what you are saying now, but Raymond seems to only be effective in the top 6 (or so people keep saying) and he hasn't done anything there, plus he is missing that grit element as I stated before, I don't think he will be all that useful for us unless he can magically become a top 6 forward again.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 09:29 PM

How is this even a question?
Hansen by a country mile.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:52 AM

Raymond is so far ahead (both players playing at their optimum) that this discussion is embarrassing. Half the time I'm not aware of Hansen when he's on the ice, whereas Raymond is always stirring things up and making things happen.

When I first saw this thread I thought it was a wind up.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:14 AM

Bodee, you are a wind up. This is a comparison between a guy who does everything without getting noticed, and a guy who does nothing and constantly gets noticed. Everything about Hansen's game is better, and you see him less because he's a 3rd liner. He hits harder, he is a better passer, he has a better shot despite not being able to use it in the O zone often, he is FAR better defensively as evidenced by being the 2nd highest PK minute player on the team.. He has the grit you talk about.. What exactly does Raymond have beyond what Hansen has? If they perform similarly while Mason is on a higher line playing with more skilled players in an offensive role and Hansen is still better, what should that tell you? The only reason you notice Mason is because he's exaggerating every single stride and let's face it, he's a bad actor.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:40 AM

Raymond is so far ahead (both players playing at their optimum) that this discussion is embarrassing. Half the time I'm not aware of Hansen when he's on the ice, whereas Raymond is always stirring things up and making things happen.

When I first saw this thread I thought it was a wind up.


I think you have Raymond and Hansen mixed up.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:09 AM

Hansen, but Raymond still has more potential that he could reach. I feel they're both ready to break-out next season with 20-goal years, which will be great for our team if they're on the 3rd line. 20-goal scorers on the 3rd line of any team shows incredible depth and teams with this sort of offensive depth win Cups.

LA had Simon Gagne.
Boston had Marchand and Peverley (on pace for 20 goals)
Chicago had Byfuglien, Ladd and Versteeg.

In our run to the Cup we had guys in the 15-goal range, but not quite as skilled as the guys listed above on our 3rd lines which was the difference.


How many games and how many goals did Simon Gagne play/score in the playoffs....?
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:28 AM

Well the Obvious choice would be Hansen.

However i would like to see how a fully recovered Raymond performs in a injury
free season. Alot of Canuck fans were quick to make Mason the official whipping
boy of the Canucks team, after coming back from a devastating injury.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:11 PM

Hansen.

Do like May Ray but I don't think he will be a Canuck next year.

Edited by Navyblue, 27 July 2012 - 09:12 PM.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:57 AM

Raymonds too soft for the playoffs

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:11 AM



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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:22 AM

Hansen is at the moment.

Raymond has the potential to rise above Hansen, but he falls down way too much and misses the net.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:15 AM

Hansen wins!

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 08:53 AM

Alot of Canuck fans were quick to make Mason the official whipping
boy of the Canucks team, after coming back from a devastating injury.


And a lot of people like you seem to forget that Raymond sucked long before the back injury.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:57 AM

And a lot of people like you seem to forget that Raymond sucked long before the back injury.


Sucked is your opinion. Have you looked at the records of some of the players from other teams who get "good press" on here? I would almost wish Raymond was playing for Chicago or Boston just to see the bleating on here when Raymond rips us a new one.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:01 PM

Raymond is so far ahead (both players playing at their optimum) that this discussion is embarrassing. Half the time I'm not aware of Hansen when he's on the ice, whereas Raymond is always stirring things up and making things happen.

When I first saw this thread I thought it was a wind up.


Your opinion doesn't count when it comes to Raymond discussions. You love him far too much :lol:

I'd say Hansen is a more useful player.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

And a lot of people like you seem to forget that Raymond sucked long before the back injury.


Before Raymond's injury, did'nt he enter the NHL like 2 seasons ago?

We can't expect all young hockey players who are entering the NHL to turn
out like Crosby and Stamkos now can we?

Wow the expectations of our players from the fans can be unreal at times...

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:53 PM

THE GREAT DANE!! Hansen hands down is a better player than Raymond. He scores, hits, is a heart player and doesn't back down from anyone in scrums. Raymond on the other hand gives the other team something to laugh at.




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