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#181 ckamo

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 03:45 PM

Article on NBC by an American agreeing with the rest of the world. How refreshing.
http://prosoccertalk...decision-wrong/
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 03:53 PM

frack the American media pisses me off so much, I'm admittedly beside myself right now. They're now trying to justify their win by dissecting every moment of the game. Just came across this article about Tancredi stepping on an American's head, calling it a deliberate act, come on.
http://ca.sports.yah...22381--oly.html

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:00 PM

Watch they suspend Sinclair for the bronze medal game, FIFA is that shady. Most corrupt sports league in the world.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:03 PM

So, what you're saying essentially is "Suck it up, Princess. You're making me look bad!".....


Pretty much, eh? <_<
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:04 PM

That's the thing, when has FIFA ever suspended anyone over post-game comments especially without a warning. If this was the men's game you would never hear such a thing from FIFA.Guess they want to throw the book at someone might as well be a women, because who cares about women's soccer anyways. Bunch of corrupt old men ruining the beautiful game.

On another note I wanted the Japanese women to win, but Solo's comments have put me over the top. I hope the States get their asses handed to them on a silver platter, a demolition job never seen before in Olympic soccer. Someone needs to knock Solo off her pedestal.


OH HELL, YES to that bolded portion............handed to them in tattered pieces... :angry:
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:08 PM

Hope Solo says they made Sinclair look good. :rolleyes:  Yeah, OK.


Funny how that works. Goalkeepers, in general have made Christine "look good" 143 times....
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:20 PM

By the way, as bad as the game of football/soccer has become in terms of diving and manipulating the ref for calls, don't kid yourselves for a second and think that this is only true of football.

Don't we all gripe about all the diving that's happening in the NHL? This is the result of top-tier athletes doing absolutely anything and everything to give their team an advantage. That's part of winning. Just how it is.



Yeah, the call was most definitely wrong, on all accounts. Anyone who thinks otherwise just doesn't know the game of soccer. There are no goalkeepers who get rid of the ball within 6 seconds when their team is nursing a lead. It just doesn't happen. Considering the time it takes to get up, for your teammates to run up the field, to have a look around, decide where to kick the ball, and then the actual action of kicking the ball, it's never 6 seconds. Hell, it's never even 6 seconds when your team is losing and you're trying to catch up.

The 6-second rule is just one of those official things that are there in place to act as a guideline so that it doesn't get out of hand.

The truth is, however, that the entire match was just a crap-fest of horrible officiating. There were fouls committed against and by both sides. Tancredi deserved a card for stepping on Lloyd's head. I'm sorry, but any competent ref sees that in any of the big leagues (EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, etc.) shows a card for that stomp/step on Lloyd's head. You can say she tried to hop out of the way, but it's quite clear her foot accelerates downward.

But that's just it, that wasn't called. Nor was Rapinoe's handball. Nor were the other multitudes of fouls. It was just a horrible display of officiating.

A ref of high calibre knows that you CANNOT decide a game that way. At that point in the game, with 12 minutes left, there is absolutely no ???? way you make a delay-of-game call on a goalkeeper. Any serious soccer fan will tell you they have never, ever seen that call made in any match they've watched. Ever. Giving a free kick in that position is far too harsh a penalty for a goalie holding onto the ball for a couple extra seconds. Let's be clear here. A few extra seconds. How many times did Erin McLeod do it? How much time did she waste in total? Maybe at most 30 seconds?

Brutal.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:50 PM

Funny how that works. Goalkeepers, in general have made Christine "look good" 143 times....


:lol:

Ain't that the truth!
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:56 PM

You definitely better not read the comments section...


Made that mistake .....the ignorance from some of those 'Merricans commenting is mind-boggling.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 05:05 PM

By the way, as bad as the game of football/soccer has become in terms of diving and manipulating the ref for calls, don't kid yourselves for a second and think that this is only true of football.

Don't we all gripe about all the diving that's happening in the NHL? This is the result of top-tier athletes doing absolutely anything and everything to give their team an advantage. That's part of winning. Just how it is.



Yeah, the call was most definitely wrong, on all accounts. Anyone who thinks otherwise just doesn't know the game of soccer. There are no goalkeepers who get rid of the ball within 6 seconds when their team is nursing a lead. It just doesn't happen. Considering the time it takes to get up, for your teammates to run up the field, to have a look around, decide where to kick the ball, and then the actual action of kicking the ball, it's never 6 seconds. Hell, it's never even 6 seconds when your team is losing and you're trying to catch up.

The 6-second rule is just one of those official things that are there in place to act as a guideline so that it doesn't get out of hand.

The truth is, however, that the entire match was just a crap-fest of horrible officiating. There were fouls committed against and by both sides. Tancredi deserved a card for stepping on Lloyd's head. I'm sorry, but any competent ref sees that in any of the big leagues (EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, etc.) shows a card for that stomp/step on Lloyd's head. You can say she tried to hop out of the way, but it's quite clear her foot accelerates downward.

But that's just it, that wasn't called. Nor was Rapinoe's handball. Nor were the other multitudes of fouls. It was just a horrible display of officiating.

A ref of high calibre knows that you CANNOT decide a game that way. At that point in the game, with 12 minutes left, there is absolutely no ???? way you make a delay-of-game call on a goalkeeper. Any serious soccer fan will tell you they have never, ever seen that call made in any match they've watched. Ever. Giving a free kick in that position is far too harsh a penalty for a goalie holding onto the ball for a couple extra seconds. Let's be clear here. A few extra seconds. How many times did Erin McLeod do it? How much time did she waste in total? Maybe at most 30 seconds?

Brutal.


I am angered and upset by the officiating in the Canada - US match just like everyone else. The thing is... Pedersen made the correct call on McLeod by the letter of the law. It sucks, but, she made the correct technical decision.

With that said, I still think it was a horsesh!t call! It wasn't within the spirit of the match and there were a number of other instances in the match where the same call could have been made but wasn't. I have played and watched soccer all of my life and I have never seen this law applied in the same situation EVER.

The penalty call was shambolic. There was no intent to handle... there was no arm to ball motion... there was no way Matheson or Naude could get out of the way... absolute BS.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 05:07 PM

I am angered and upset by the officiating in the Canada - US match just like everyone else. The thing is... Pedersen made the correct call on McLeod by the letter of the law. It sucks, but, she made the correct technical decision.

With that said, I still think it was a horsesh!t call! It wasn't within the spirit of the match and there were a number of other instances in the match where the same call could have been made but wasn't. I have played and watched soccer all of my life and I have never seen this law applied in the same situation EVER.

The penalty call was shambolic. There was no intent to handle... there was no arm to ball motion... there was no way Matheson or Naude could get out of the way... absolute BS.

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Then maybe we should be complaining that she didn't make the same call several times on Hope.

Either way we have a legit complaint.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 05:08 PM

Made that mistake .....the ignorance from some of those 'Merricans commenting is mind-boggling.

I saw "typical arrogant Cannock" and decided it wasn't worth my time or energy to go through it.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 05:23 PM

FIFA has lost the plot. The ref's performance was bad enough, but you can just quietly never name her to another big match and be done with it. By actually coming out and announcing an investigation you're going to give more press time to the Canadian players' comments after the match not to mention open the debate over one of the greatest players in women's soccer history in Abby Wambach for influencing the referee. They should have kept quiet on this one.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:43 PM

lookee here, Hope Solo backtracking: "Ive said it all along...Sinclair could be the best player in the world. My hat goes off to her and the Canadian team. #fb "

I've watched many an interview of her's and I'm beginning to think that she just doesn't chose words well at all....

edit: dunno why my comment was in bold.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:44 PM

The fault here is that of FIFA. Matches of this importance should not be being officiated by such an inexperienced official.

Wambach knows this official is a newb and uses that to her advantage and bullies her. Can't say I blame her one bit for trying that. An experienced official with some backbone would have simply gone up to Wambach and said "Knock if off with the counting. I'm the official here not you. Got it? Once more time and you're getting a card".

A good player uses everything they have in their tool kit as long as the officials are going to allow it.

Like in hockey when a player tosses the puck over the glass. Suddenly all 5 opposing skaters have their hands in the air making sure the call is made. As if all on ice officials might miss the fact that there is no longer a puck to play with.

Sadly, this type of nonsense is to be expected at the Olympics. One need only look at the boxing and how many questionable decisions are now under review. With boxing it goes back ages. Shawn O'Sullivan anyone?

Once again the fault lies with FIFA and the Olympic committee for the boxing.

For the most part the Olympics are an amateur competition. Too bad this includes the refs.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:48 PM

lookee here, Hope Solo backtracking: Ive said it all along...Sinclair could be the best player in the world. My hat goes off to her and the Canadian team. #fb
I've watched many an interview of her's and I'm beginning to think that she just doesn't chose words well at all....


Hope Solo has been known to stick her foot in her mouth a time or two. She can be very arrogant.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:02 PM

From Voyageurs forum...a bit old, but just check out how much the US Soccer pays it's players. Wow.
http://www.cansoc.or...rent-until-2012

Contrast that with the CSA which can't even afford to host a friendly for the WNT.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:55 PM

Well I have to say God bless our women for a fantastic game and boo to the ref for such a bogus call. Also boo to the US player who was counting off seconds right beside the ref. However there is a big problem. Sinclair made a comment that suggested that the match was fixed before the first kick off. That's a BIG FIFA no no. I realise that our team is crushed by these two bad calls but I doubt anybody had the fix in before the game even started and to suggest that there was is going beyond merely complaining about inept officiating. I wouldn't be at all surpised if FIFA lowers the boom on Ms. Sinclair which would be too bad but she has to know by now that you can't accuse the Olympics themselves of cheating.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 10:50 PM

A delay of game made no sense because there was plenty of time left in the game (15 minutes). I could see it being called with time running out like less than a minute. Then it can rightly argued the goaltender held on the ball too long.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:13 AM

NO PUNOSHMENT handed down to our ladies by FIFA. Finally some good news.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:16 AM

NO PUNOSHMENT handed down to our ladies by FIFA. Finally some good news.


Until after the bronze medal game.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:18 AM

Yes sorry I jumped te gun there. Still good news!
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:33 AM

Until after the bronze medal game.


I think you mean "Until during the bronze medal game." Lol

But at least they delayed the suspension.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:55 AM

I think you mean "Until during the bronze medal game." Lol

But at least they delayed the suspension.


I'm attempting to keep a postive outlook until the game begins, but you will most likely be right.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 08:33 AM

Yeah. It reminds me of Ronaldo in the World Cup saying that a well-executed dive is a valid strategy and should be admired....


I bet Kesler shed a tear about that one.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 08:57 AM

NO PUNOSHMENT handed down to our ladies by FIFA. Finally some good news.

.....and the Norwegian referee is finished for the tournament. Hmmmmmmmmmm, wonder why? Incapable comes to mind.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 09:58 AM

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I think we can call it even now after CAN's Tancredi steps on the Carli Lloyd's face, don't you think?
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:07 AM

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:10 AM

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I think we can call it even now after CAN's Tancredi steps on the Carli Lloyd's face, don't you think?



Face? Do the Americans wear their numbers on the front of their jerseys? A stomp on the back of the head is bad enough. No need to sensationalize to try and make it worse.

And no, we're not "even". That play didn't directly result in a goal which ultimately cost your team the game and a shot at the gold medal.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:30 AM

Well at least:

LONDON - It is a little late for Canada’s tastes but Norwegian referee Christiana Pedersen was not selected to be part of the crews for Thursday’s final between the U.S., and Japan or the bronze-medal match between Canada and France.

Pedersen was the target of a verbal barrage from Canadian players after a 4-3 semifinal loss to the Americans on Monday. Pedersen called delay of game against Canadian keeper Erin McLeod, which led to a hand ball in the area and a penalty goal for American Abby Wambach, who tied the game at 3-3 in the second half. Alex Morgan won the game for the Americans by scoring on a header with 30 seconds left in extra time.

Captain Christine Sinclair suggested the outcome had been determined before the opening kickoff and other Canadians suggested the referee gave the game to the Americans.

IOC spokesman Mark Adams brushed off questions about the FIFA investigation into comments made by the Canadians.
“These things happen in football matches, as in all other sports,” Adams said. “FIFA will make an inquiry; we don’t know when that will conclude. It is really a matter for them to say. To be honest, it is a refereeing issue and FIFA will look into it.”

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/08/norwegian-ref-done-for-olympic-soccer-tourney

The ladies just need to move on. Easier said than done but they have a shot at bronze here and that would be historic too. Just stay focused on the next task and hope that the law of averages throws some luck our way in the final game.
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