VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Thank you for using an example. So how would dhimmah be treated under said caliphate should one be established? As they were during ottoman rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Define an established caliphate, then. It's certainly not the opinion of the various governments around the world who consider themselves to be ruling in accordance with the Quran and hadith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Thank you for using an example. So how would dhimmah be treated under said caliphate should one be established? As they were during ottoman rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Beat me to the punch. The no true Scotsman fallacy gets pulled out pretty often in religious discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I think the main thing you have to know was the last Caliph we had was part of the Ottoman Empire. Today there is no such authority today which in turn must mean there is no such Islamic government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Situation Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I just want to put this out there that this conflict has nothing to do with religion. Its an ethnic conflict. Elsewhere in Burma, Burmese Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Christians and Animists are getting along. I am not saying they are getting along well but they aren't rioting against each other. Its not like they are twisting the scriptures of Theravada Buddhism because there is really nothing that can be used to justify the violence. In Mahayana Buddhism, there might be some but the Burmese don't follow Mahayana. There is however a difference between Burmese Muslims elsewhere in Burma and the Rohingya, and that is that they are seen as Burmese. They speak the language, eat the food, etc. The Rohingya are seen as a separate people illegally from Bangladesh and not real Burmese. Its seems a like a lot of people are trying to fan the hatred and twist things out of proportion such as with that picture of the Sichuan Earthquake aftermath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICanucksfan5551 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I just want to put this out there that this conflict has nothing to do with religion. Its an ethnic conflict. Elsewhere in Burma, Burmese Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Christians and Animists are getting along. I am not saying they are getting along well but they aren't rioting against each other. Its not like they are twisting the scriptures of Theravada Buddhism because there is really nothing that can be used to justify the violence. In Mahayana Buddhism, there might be some but the Burmese don't follow Mahayana. There is however a difference between Burmese Muslims elsewhere in Burma and the Rohingya, and that is that they are seen as Burmese. They speak the language, eat the food, etc. The Rohingya are seen as a separate people illegally from Bangladesh and not real Burmese. Its seems a like a lot of people are trying to fan the hatred and twist things out of proportion such as with that picture of the Sichuan Earthquake aftermath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Ask a mufti or at least someone learned who can give you an answer with daleel. I hope you realize that I haven't dished it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
لني Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I just want to put this out there that this conflict has nothing to do with religion. Its an ethnic conflict. Elsewhere in Burma, Burmese Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Christians and Animists are getting along. I am not saying they are getting along well but they aren't rioting against each other. Its not like they are twisting the scriptures of Theravada Buddhism because there is really nothing that can be used to justify the violence. In Mahayana Buddhism, there might be some but the Burmese don't follow Mahayana. There is however a difference between Burmese Muslims elsewhere in Burma and the Rohingya, and that is that they are seen as Burmese. They speak the language, eat the food, etc. The Rohingya are seen as a separate people illegally from Bangladesh and not real Burmese. Its seems a like a lot of people are trying to fan the hatred and twist things out of proportion such as with that picture of the Sichuan Earthquake aftermath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I'd hope not... http://en.wikipedia....menian_genocide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super19 Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Saudi King orders 50M in aid to Rohingya Muslims http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20120812132875 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Saudi King orders 50M in aid to Rohingya Muslims http://www.saudigaze...=20120812132875 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Saudi Arabia loves to "pledge" aid, but have a track record of not paying: http://news.yahoo.com/palestinians-crisis-pledged-aid-not-received-172541408.html http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2012/1088/eg6.htm I'd be curious to see who this aid is being paid to. As there is no government for the Rohingya people, who is actually receiving and distributin this aid? Saudi Arabia has a long history of funding Wahhabist schools, which often serve the interests of the Saudis more than the populations they purport to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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