taxi Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus099 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The Spiegel report, commissioned by the Israeli Defense Ministry, found that some settlements deemed legal by Israel were illegal outposts, and that large portions of Ofra, Elon Moreh and Beit El were built on private Palestinian land. Even Israel will admit its settlements are illegal why can't you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 The recent cease-fire agreement to me is an Israeli victory. But Hamas will surely break it as they have always shown. I give the latest agreement a week from today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 The Spiegel report, commissioned by the Israeli Defense Ministry, found that some settlements deemed legal by Israel were illegal outposts, and that large portions of Ofra, Elon Moreh and Beit El were built on private Palestinian land. Even Israel will admit its settlements are illegal why can't you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The Spiegel report, commissioned by the Israeli Defense Ministry, found that some settlements deemed legal by Israel were illegal outposts, and that large portions of Ofra, Elon Moreh and Beit El were built on private Palestinian land. Even Israel will admit its settlements are illegal why can't you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Jerusalem In 1830, there were 3000 Jews living in Jerusalem, 4500 muslims, and 3,500 Christians. This was after the Jews had been thrown out many times. The last time in 1750. But for some reason unlimited amounts of Arabs are allowed to live there but any Jew who lives there is a settler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Jerusalem In 1830, there were 3000 Jews living in Jerusalem, 4500 muslims, and 3,500 Christians. This was after the Jews had been thrown out many times. The last time in 1750. But for some reason unlimited amounts of Arabs are allowed to live there but any Jew who lives there is a settler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Syria only oppresses its own citizens .. Israel is an equal-opportunity oppressor .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 Syria only oppresses its own citizens .. Israel is an equal-opportunity oppressor .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coda Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Syria only oppresses its own citizens .. Israel is an equal-opportunity oppressor .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 ........... Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances .......... Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 ........... Never refuse to do a kindness unless the act would work great injury to yourself, and never refuse to take a drink- under any circumstances .......... Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Israel really comes out of this quite well because it's now made clear to everyone that Cairo and the Muslim Brotherhood are holding the leash of HAMAS and are ultimately responsible for Gaza. Next time they start firing rockets, Israel doesn't have to go to Gaza, they can go to Cairo, and that's something they couldn't necessarily do before this latest round of conflict. It puts Israel in a much stronger position diplomatically. As for HAMAS, they come out having shown they can still tangle with Israel and live to tell the tale, and Iran's shown that they can hit Israel from the south as well as the north. The big losers are the Egyptians, they take on a lot more risk and responsibility for very little gain, I think Morsi is showing his inexperience and that of his government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Israel really comes out of this quite well because it's now made clear to everyone that Cairo and the Muslim Brotherhood are holding the leash of HAMAS and are ultimately responsible for Gaza. Next time they start firing rockets, Israel doesn't have to go to Gaza, they can go to Cairo, and that's something they couldn't necessarily do before this latest round of conflict. It puts Israel in a much stronger position diplomatically. As for HAMAS, they come out having shown they can still tangle with Israel and live to tell the tale, and Iran's shown that they can hit Israel from the south as well as the north. The big losers are the Egyptians, they take on a lot more risk and responsibility for very little gain, I think Morsi is showing his inexperience and that of his government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus099 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It seems to me the only winners in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will be the arms dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It seems to me the only winners in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will be the arms dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 "Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out...and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel. ..And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man"--with his mouth" .. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Syria only oppresses its own citizens .. Israel is an equal-opportunity oppressor .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Save for the fact that the West Bank has had no parts in this conflict. Reason why? They've recognized the right of Israel to exist and are now growing economically and socially. Fatah has realized that if you don't start trouble with the Israelis, you get no trouble. The only Palestinians that are asking for trouble is Hamas, they are the problem here. Not entirely true. Chimpanzees troops will systematically hunt down another troops nearby, one at a time until there's none of the other group left. Not just little raid/skirmishes, but even "wars" lasting for 4 years. http://www.lessonsfo...n.asp?abc_id=47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 A win for hamas, as more lives will not be lost. The last time there was a Gaza and Israel was at war, Gaza had a total of 1600 deaths, (militants and civilians) Israel lost a total of 13 lives. 4 milatery 9 civilians. Israel can literally level gaza no problem. If Gaza does shoot rockets again, Egypt is unable to stop gaza from firing their rockets, the IDF will go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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