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Who said drinking and driving only affects the driver....? Neither Wet or myself ever mentioned drivers. Drunk or otherwise.

Of course the statement is predicated by their being other people around.... :blink:

Again, try not being so willfully obtuse and maybe it will come a little easier.

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Correction, it's the discussion harming "not other persons around them", which was indeed said absolutist statement made by Wetcoaster and challenged by a poster.

And it isn't only the instance of drinking and driving, it's violence surrounding drinking too which certainly can and does harm others. Try not to be so defensive (oddly at that since no statement was made about what you "mentioned") and you'll better understand what's being iterated.

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Again, drinking and driving, alcohol related violence and anything else you can come up with are separate issues and not what We t stated or made his remark about. The actual act of taking a drink of beer is no more dangerous than the actual act of taking a sip of water. The same can not be said about cigarettes.

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Again, drinking and driving, alcohol related violence and anything else you can come up with are separate issues and not what We t stated or made his remark about. The actual act of taking a drink of beer is no more dangerous than the actual act of taking a sip of water. The same can not be said about cigarettes.

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Oddest thing has happened. The more I toke regular reefer, the less I even want a drag on my E-Cig...is it possible, nay probable, that smoking cannabis has effectively curbed any desire I have for tobacco or nicotine? :o

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Out of the 37 thousand posts you have written, I can assure you this is probably on the top of the list of the post you would like to have back.

You used to be an RCMP officer apparently ?

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When drinking a sip of water causes a traffic death you will have had a point there.

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Yes, drunk driving kills tens of thousands of people each year, so it most definitely does not affect only the driver..

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See that flying by the side of your head there? That's the point that you missed. If you drink a sip of water in a car while driving, there is nothing in that water that would ever affect your judgment. The water:alcohol analogy is quite possibly the worst one I have ever seen.

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Wrong.

http://progressrepor...1&coid=706&mid=

.. and increases the odds with every drink, not to mention increases the risk of other cancers with every drink.

This is not the case with water, so equating water to alcohol is a terrible comparison.

We already established the effects it has upon others.

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You and Zai are the last people in this thread who should be commenting about people missing points.

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The act of smoking doesn't inherently harm anyone else, much like drinking and driving, anoter person has to be around for it to be dangerous to others. The negligence of smokers smoking around other people is no different than the negligence of people who drink and get behind the wheel. Dangerous is dangerous.. so that was a dumb absolutist statement he made saying it only affects the driver.

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Ok...let's see...what did you say again? The actual act of taking a drink of beer is no different than the act of drinking a sip of water? You have a point when it comes to the action itself...but the analogy falls apart when you consider the ramifications and consequences side by side...with water there are virtually zero...with alcohol, it's a different story.

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Hey you made the post and an open-ended absolutist statement, don't try and hide behind "context" and your own made-up scenario now, of which someone standing next to another with a cigarette doesn't inherently mean person has breathed in the smoke or carcinogens. In order to be correct about the dangers of smoking and drinking, you must have one little scenario employed at your behest . This is indeed a fallacious argument you are putting forth and highly biased -- one can only question your motivations for such.

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The discussion is the effects of smoking vs drinking a beverage (of any type...doesn't really matter) on people in your proximity. The most risk someone faces by me raising a glass to my mouth is possibly glancing my elbow. There is no such thing as "second hand thirst quenching". Get it?

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See that flying by the side of your head there? That's the point that you missed. If you drink a sip of water in a car while driving, there is nothing in that water that would ever affect your judgment. The water:alcohol analogy is quite possibly the worst one I have ever seen.

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Wow - this thread is still going? Let it go already. Until smokes are illegal you're going to have to deal with CERTAIN smokers (not even close to ALL smokers, or even a majority of smokers) who are rude and inconsiderate.

Likewise, until being a whiny biznick becomes illegal, those of us who smoke and don't deliberately blow it people's face's are going to have to put up with the likes of you people.

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Got it. Thanks. :) Wait...wouldn't sharing a soda with someone be "second hand thirst quenching"? ;)

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