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#1 edlerstatesman

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:19 AM

I say so.

He wasn't the flashiest, and he didn't put up the most raw points year in and year out, but he was the backbone of the Canucks' defense for a decade, and his reliability and toughness helped make our team a contender. The stability he provided for the Canucks' back end has only been matched by Dan Hamhuis (and maybe Willie Mitchell). I can't imagine how good he could have been if not for that horrific eye injury early in his career.

However I do think Hamhuis or maybe Edler will eventually take the title.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:32 AM

Öhlund was such an amazing D-man! Sort of like Hedman, both were really hyped in Sweden, both are from the northern parts and both great people.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:35 AM

Yes. I'd also reference my blog post on a Jim Robson interview wherein he states the same thing but I'm too lazy.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:41 AM

I'm going to go ahead and say that we have had a better D-man at some point in our history...but I'm just guessing.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:41 AM

Ja.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:42 AM

Man, imagine what could have been if it weren't for the eye injury.....

But yes, in an era where Canucks had NO defense whatsoever, Ohlund stood like a rock.

Hammer might get a close nod at second, but I'm excited to see what Garrison can do too.

Also obligatory mention to the Moustache of Babych and Dana Murzyn the Pylon :P
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:42 AM

Jiri Slegr was the best Canucks defensemen.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:43 AM

Come on guys..


We all know it's Aaron Rome.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:56 AM

He was undoubtedly a quality defenseman! Some would take Jovo over him when they were both in their primes... but Ohlund was definitely I think our top D-man of that era. "EVER" though? I'm not sure about that. I'm actually a pretty big fan of Hamhuis, and while I don't think he's proven himself as much as Ohlund ever did yet, I think he has elite shutdown D skill that the Canucks haven't seen since Ohlund himself was patrolling our blue line to shut down the other team's top guys :)
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:59 AM

He was undoubtedly a quality defenseman! Some would take Jovo over him when they were both in their primes... but Ohlund was definitely I think our top D-man of that era. "EVER" though? I'm not sure about that. I'm actually a pretty big fan of Hamhuis, and while I don't think he's proven himself as much as Ohlund ever did yet, I think he has elite shutdown D skill that the Canucks haven't seen since Ohlund himself was patrolling our blue line to shut down the other team's top guys :)


It's not hard to say "ever" when talking about the Canucks. Our most notable defensemen before Ohlund were Jyrki Lumme, Doug Lidster, Harold Snepsts and Garth Butcher. We didn't have much of a history before the Bure years.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:06 AM

It's not hard to say "ever" when talking about the Canucks. Our most notable defensemen before Ohlund were Jyrki Lumme, Doug Lidster, Harold Snepsts and Garth Butcher. We didn't have much of a history before the Bure years.


I'm in my mid-20s so I don't even remember most of those other defensemen. I vaguely remember Lumme growing up. I remember the Canucks game 7 with the Rangers when I was a little boy and everything about that loss, heh.

But yeah, in my time Ohlund was pretty much the elite shut down D-man for Vancouver. He was great at his job and I liked how he threw big hits occasionally... he reminds me of Hamhuis quite a bit in style actually. Hamhuis prefers his hip-checks to thundering Ohlund body checks, but still, similar style.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:12 AM

I was gonna say taylor Pyatt :bigblush:
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:15 AM

I say so.

He wasn't the flashiest, and he didn't put up the most raw points year in and year out, but he was the backbone of the Canucks' defense for a decade, and his reliability and toughness helped make our team a contender. The stability he provided for the Canucks' back end has only been matched by Dan Hamhuis (and maybe Willie Mitchell). I can't imagine how good he could have been if not for that horrific eye injury early in his career.

However I do think Hamhuis or maybe Edler will eventually take the title.


Edler won't be on par with Hamhuis or Ohlund for a shut down role imo. That's just not the sort of player he is... Edler is an offensive D-man who can throw big hits. I think Edler will surpass Ohlund and Hamhuis offensively, but in terms of shutting down the other teams' top lines... doubtful.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:32 AM

I'm in my mid-20s so I don't even remember most of those other defensemen. I vaguely remember Lumme growing up. I remember the Canucks game 7 with the Rangers when I was a little boy and everything about that loss, heh.

But yeah, in my time Ohlund was pretty much the elite shut down D-man for Vancouver. He was great at his job and I liked how he threw big hits occasionally... he reminds me of Hamhuis quite a bit in style actually. Hamhuis prefers his hip-checks to thundering Ohlund body checks, but still, similar style.


I'm the same age, but I have read a lot about historical Canucks. I used to even collect old Canucks magazines from the 70s and 80s. Bought a box of a couple hundred from an antique store once. That was a fun winter.

Anyways, I think Hamhuis has the potential to become better than Ohlund because he's a better skater and obviously far more durable.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:41 AM

Jovo was a very solid D man and so was Babych, but I cant take away from Ohlund he was definatly in the top ranks of best Canuck defense in my books.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:44 AM

I'm the same age, but I have read a lot about historical Canucks. I used to even collect old Canucks magazines from the 70s and 80s. Bought a box of a couple hundred from an antique store once. That was a fun winter.

Anyways, I think Hamhuis has the potential to become better than Ohlund because he's a better skater and obviously far more durable.


Hamhuis had 37 pts and a whopping +29 last season. Ohlund never reached such numbers, especialy in the +- dept. Although, in his defence, he played for a far worse team and had far crappier goaltending at the time.

But yeah, I think Hamhuis is the best defensive D-man we've ever had. What a steal he was for the Canucks. I always love BC players coming to play for Vancouver because of their personal connection... Garrison being the obvious candidate this year!

As an aside, it's a pipe dream of mine that Jamie Benn would consider signing here as he's an RFA atm! (He's from Victoria BC) Dallas would never give him up unless he pulled a Lindros though, so darn. ;)

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:14 AM

I'm sad we let him go, but the eye injury was not something he could come back from, and im afraid that neither can Malhotra... We should try to trade him this year for someone else!
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:18 AM

i think ohlund is the best defensman in naslund era but now I think edler will become the best.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:28 AM

He was the "Best" in the sense that his tenure with the Canucks is one of the longest. He isn't the most gifted offensively, but that's not to say he had no offensive skills, just his role was to defend first, freeing others for more offensive roles (Jovanovski, Sopel, and even Krajicek and Baumgartner).

Ohlund's playing style is based on physicality. He doesn't just neutralizes plays like Mitchell, Lidstrom, Hamhuis, etc.... he manhandles the opposition. He will crush opponents along the boards, make huge open-ice hits, and even involve himself with some sparing.

I always believed that MG made a huge mistake not re-signing Ohlund. It's true that against quick skating teams like Chicago, he can easily be exposed, but for tight-checking/grinding series, like against the Blues, Ducks, Dallas, Flames, it's where he is truly able to shine. Just do a little youtube search of TBL against the Bruins and you'll see how effective a defenseman like him is. If Mattias was part of the 2011 Canucks, I would say the Canucks would have won it all.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:10 AM

Best defenceman, IMO, to ever suit up as a Canuck was Paul Reinhart. He could skate, pass, shoot, score, play physically. It's too bad we didn't get hime earlier and that he couldn't stay longer. He retired at age 29 because of a back injury that he couldn't shake. 114 points in 131 games as a Canuck. Not too shabby. A career ended far too soon.

Ohly is a close second, for me. Not as prolific offensively, but, way above average defensively and moved the puck out of his zone well. 11 years in VanCity sums it all up, for me. So glad he played here in his prime.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:19 AM

I'm sad we let him go, but the eye injury was not something he could come back from, and im afraid that neither can Malhotra... We should try to trade him this year for someone else!


You, laddy, are uneducated as far as Canuck history goes. Ohlund was injured in the 1999-2000 season, if I remember correctly. He was traded to Tampa in '09-'10. So you are saying, that he "...couldn't come back from..." his eye injury? Ohly had his best years after his eye injury.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:37 AM

lumme anyone?
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:38 AM

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:48 AM

Rory Fitzpatrick!
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:15 AM

i never understood this stupid infatuation with the offensive defenseman. Ohlund is a defenseman, his job is to "defend", and no other canuck did this better than him. who cares if other blueliners score more? Jovo, Ehrhoff, Bieksa... these guys have always been defensive liability, especially in the playoffs. you win the stanley cup with shutdown defensemen, others can score fancy goals for all i care

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:16 AM

I was gonna say taylor Pyatt :bigblush:

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Wait, I don't get it?

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:27 AM

Come on guys..


We all know it's Aaron Rome.


Until now. We have Cam the savior Barker.

from the early 90's on I think Ohlund is the best. Hamhuis, Edler and Lumme are close seconds.
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:47 AM

Now I like Ohlund, he was a very good defenseman for us, but does anyone else find it a little off putting that in 40+ years of existence he's arguably our best?

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:52 AM

Yes
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:00 AM

i never understood this stupid infatuation with the offensive defenseman. Ohlund is a defenseman, his job is to "defend", and no other canuck did this better than him. who cares other blueliners score more? Jovo, Ehrhoff, Bieksa... these guys have always been defensive liability, especially in the playoffs. you win the stanley cup with shutdown defensemen, others can score fancy goals all they want.


There needs to be a trophy for best defensive defenseman some appreciation for that really hard position is in order.

As for Ohlund being our best? I would say he belongs with the likes of Lumme, Jovo et al but Hammer may down as our very best till we finally get that bonafied number one. (Weber, Lidstrom type)

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