Wetcoaster Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 In 2011 there were 32,163 deaths in the US from firearms (11,101 homicides) - an average of 88 per day. And gun suicides... in 2011 there were 19,766. And that is just deaths, not injuries by firearms. Firearm injury in the United States has averaged 32,300 deaths annually between 1980 and 2007. It is the second leading cause of injury death after motor vehicle crashes. While the ratio varies, there are an average of five nonfatal firearm injuries for every two firearm deaths. http://www.uphs.upen...f/monograph.pdf And as that study by the University of Pennsylvania, Firearms Research Centrer notes gun control coupled with aggressive enforcement works and they cite New York as an example. New York City experienced a large increase in the rate of firearm homicides in the late 1980s and early 1990s. After aggressive policing tactics and regulations beginning in 1994 in the City, New York State’s firearm homicide rate is now lower than in the rest of the country. And the cost both in lives and dollars is staggering. Two years ago, 30,470 people died from homicides or suicides using firearms, according to data compiled by the CDC. Guns were the most common means of homicides and suicides, the latter of which accounted for nearly two-thirds of the deaths. Suicide by firearm was the leading cause of violence-related injury deaths in 2010, followed by homicides with firearms, the CDC reported. Together, they made up 57 percent of violent deaths. Gun-related fatalities are on pace to surpass deaths from automobile collisions by 2015, Bloomberg News reported Wednesday. The CDC attempts to put a price tag on gun violence in an earlier report. Combining the direct medical costs of treating fatal gun injuries with the economic damage of lost lives, firearms-related deaths cost the United States $37 billion in 2005, the most recent year for which a CDC estimate is available. Non-fatal gun injuries cost an additional $3.7 billion that year, according to the agency. http://www.huffingto..._n_2325706.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 In 2011 there were 32,163 deaths in the US from firearms (11,101 homicides) - an average of 88 per day. And gun suicides... in 2011 there were 19,766. And that is just deaths, not injuries by firearms. Firearm injury in the United States has averaged 32,300 deaths annually between 1980 and 2007. It is the second leading cause of injury death after motor vehicle crashes. While the ratio varies, there are an average of five nonfatal firearm injuries for every two firearm deaths. http://www.uphs.upen...f/monograph.pdf And as that study by the University of Pennsylvania, Firearms Research Centrer notes gun control coupled with aggressive enforcement works and they cite New York as an example. New York City experienced a large increase in the rate of firearm homicides in the late 1980s and early 1990s. After aggressive policing tactics and regulations beginning in 1994 in the City, New York State’s firearm homicide rate is now lower than in the rest of the country. And the cost both in lives and dollars is staggering. Two years ago, 30,470 people died from homicides or suicides using firearms, according to data compiled by the CDC. Guns were the most common means of homicides and suicides, the latter of which accounted for nearly two-thirds of the deaths. Suicide by firearm was the leading cause of violence-related injury deaths in 2010, followed by homicides with firearms, the CDC reported. Together, they made up 57 percent of violent deaths. Gun-related fatalities are on pace to surpass deaths from automobile collisions by 2015, Bloomberg News reported Wednesday. The CDC attempts to put a price tag on gun violence in an earlier report. Combining the direct medical costs of treating fatal gun injuries with the economic damage of lost lives, firearms-related deaths cost the United States $37 billion in 2005, the most recent year for which a CDC estimate is available. Non-fatal gun injuries cost an additional $3.7 billion that year, according to the agency. http://www.huffingto..._n_2325706.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 In 2011 there were 32,163 deaths in the US from firearms (11,101 homicides) - an average of 88 per day. And gun suicides... in 2011 there were 19,766. And that is just deaths, not injuries by firearms. Firearm injury in the United States has averaged 32,300 deaths annually between 1980 and 2007. It is the second leading cause of injury death after motor vehicle crashes. While the ratio varies, there are an average of five nonfatal firearm injuries for every two firearm deaths. http://www.uphs.upen...f/monograph.pdf And as that study by the University of Pennsylvania, Firearms Research Centrer notes gun control coupled with aggressive enforcement works and they cite New York as an example. New York City experienced a large increase in the rate of firearm homicides in the late 1980s and early 1990s. After aggressive policing tactics and regulations beginning in 1994 in the City, New York State’s firearm homicide rate is now lower than in the rest of the country. And the cost both in lives and dollars is staggering. Two years ago, 30,470 people died from homicides or suicides using firearms, according to data compiled by the CDC. Guns were the most common means of homicides and suicides, the latter of which accounted for nearly two-thirds of the deaths. Suicide by firearm was the leading cause of violence-related injury deaths in 2010, followed by homicides with firearms, the CDC reported. Together, they made up 57 percent of violent deaths. Gun-related fatalities are on pace to surpass deaths from automobile collisions by 2015, Bloomberg News reported Wednesday. The CDC attempts to put a price tag on gun violence in an earlier report. Combining the direct medical costs of treating fatal gun injuries with the economic damage of lost lives, firearms-related deaths cost the United States $37 billion in 2005, the most recent year for which a CDC estimate is available. Non-fatal gun injuries cost an additional $3.7 billion that year, according to the agency. http://www.huffingto..._n_2325706.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Those figures are definitely an eye opener. Unfortunately, it is only those people who are able to think objectively and look at the big picture who will see and hear the message in the words you've posted. The others will look at those numbers and try to pass them off as the cost of maintaining their constitutional rights, the collateral damage of being able to pack around body armour piercing ammunition and the weapons to utilize it with. Yet the populace complains bitterly about the lack of funding in certain areas....vital areas......but will continue to support the massive amount of $$$$ having to be paid out due to the cost of gun deaths and injuries. The ignorance is unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 This is wrong. Highly wrong, no surprise the Huffington post makes **** up to justify gun control bias. http://www.guardian....e-us-state#data In 2011, New York state had the 8th worst (since DC isn't a state) gun murder rate. The lowest rate belongs to Hawaii which has a fraction of New York gun murder rates, but let's look at the 10 states with the lowest gun murder rates: 1) Hawaii 2) New Hampshire 3) Rhode Island 4) South Dakota 5) Iowa 6) Vermont 7) Montana 8) Minnesota 9) Maine 10)North Dakota Also, forgive me if I don't trust CDC estimates, since the OMB (also part of a Presidential cabinet) estimates on every budget is grossly exaggerated in favour of those with a political stake in estimates. Overall, this is an awful article, not educating whatsoever. It's part of the media's attempt to influence gun politics, and surely gun control sycophants will eat it up without questioning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodzillaDeuce Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 What does the CDC have to do with firearms? shouldn't this type of research belong to ATF? curious regardless, that's a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The usual NRA talking points again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodzillaDeuce Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 ATF is an enforcement division. The only research they have IIRC is related to fire safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 What does the CDC have to do with firearms? shouldn't this type of research belong to ATF? curious regardless, that's a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 You don't know very much about US politics, so I can't blame you for repeating this nonsense yet again. Your inability to critically assess a source is blatant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The NRA is constantly working to block any research into firearm issues, so as to deny the enlightened masses any chance at comparative analysis .. those who adopt a "head in the sand" mentality towards actual research are very worried that their last bastion of ignorance will be removed and they will crumble before the very winds of change .. do you have any idea how silly y'all look with your heads in the sand and yer arses all vulnerable like that? .. no wonder San Francisco has few such folk left .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 The NRA is constantly working to block any research into firearm issues, so as to deny the enlightened masses any chance at comparative analysis .. those who adopt a "head in the sand" mentality towards actual research are very worried that their last bastion of ignorance will be removed and they will crumble before the very winds of change .. do you have any idea how silly y'all look with your heads in the sand and yer arses all vulnerable like that? .. no wonder San Francisco has few such folk left .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Guns just add to the country-dividing politics down there, where the civil war never really, truly ended. And according to Ben Shapiro, if slaves had guns, they wouldn't have been slaves, and therefore there wouldn't have been a civil war. Wow. Can't deny the logic. Guns unite 'merica! What i don't get is how 'the left' is to be blamed for gun control and media manipulation. Um, what 'left?' I hope they aren't referring to Obama. Any true left movement in that country died long ago and anything that starts up now is treated like a terror group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 That approach did work for decades for Big Tobacco but finally the research and statistics overwhelmed the vested interests. Perhaps we are seeing the beginning of a similar process in respect of firearm deaths and injuries. One can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
key2thecup Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I wonder how many were related to the drug war.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Odd that any number of people, the majority of them in the US, see the same thing, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 And the majority of Americans are religious.. your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 how much do vehicle accidents cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Apples and orangutans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Of course it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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