mbal23 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I find it disheartening to see a few people in this thread being incredibly judgmental and making rude comments about a topic of which they know nothing about. Gender Dysphoria and Gender Identity Disorder are not adult-only disorders. It often begins during childhood and in the past has only been addressed once that person becomes an adult and can take matters into their own hands because it was little understood by medical professionals. But with advances in medical science, the issue can now be addressed earlier. So, calling this "child abuse" is completely absurd. It's like expecting parents to wait until their children are fully grown before letting them wear glasses to correct their eyesight. The wonderful piece Derek Jory wrote for Canucks.com was not meant to educate you on the complexities of this issue, it was to show how the Canucks organization is being inclusive and reaching out to ALL of their fans, and I vigorously applaud them for that! Unless you've experienced GID or know someone who has gone through it, you cannot possibly know what Cory and his parents went through with their doctors to determine the treatment they decided was right. I highly doubt it was a snap decision or based on the simple fact that "she liked Superman more than Barbie." Imagine that you are the parent of a child with GID, would it be easy for you to say, "sure let's turn our daughter into a boy!" I doubt it, and I'm sure it was not easy for Cory's parents. And I'm pretty certain the doctors who assisted were extremely careful to make the right decisions about something as complex as this. One of our writers on PuckBuddys was diagnosed with gender dysphoria years ago and is beginning the process of addressing that for the first time as an adult. She is also a big Canucks fan and wrote a piece published today sharing her own thoughts about Cory and Cory, and how what the Canucks did was incredibly uplifting and inspiring. I suggest you read it: Canucks Take You Can Play to a Whole New Level, and they do it Right! It's already difficult enough for transgendered people in this world, there are even lots of gay and lesbian people that don't really understand it. But, just because you don't understand something or can't imagine what it must be like doesn't mean you have to condemn it or make baseless accusations. Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sQuish Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 This is an odd story that belongs nowhere near the Canucks or the NHL. In fact, the Canucks organisation should be ashamed for using this kid's story as a fluff piece and to tout their "humanitarian" marketing agenda. What a load of crap. The Canucks don't care about Cory and his/her struggles through life. They're using it to make them look good and "forward thinking". Wow, he gets to stand next to Cory for 30 seconds. Whoop-di-do. There are sooooo many more kids with much worse problems in our community than someone having a gender identity crisis. This fragile of a story does not belong in a marketing campaign for a hockey team. And posting on the internet just invites the swarms of trolls that probably make the kid upset (assuming he/she reads it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Congrats guys, CDC has successfully turned a feel-good story into a petty argument of "right and wrong". You may not be happy about the circumstance, but Cory clearly is so isn't that all that matters? Absolutely embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 This is an odd story that belongs nowhere near the Canucks or the NHL. In fact, the Canucks organisation should be ashamed for using this kid's story as a fluff piece and to tout their "humanitarian" marketing agenda. What a load of crap. The Canucks don't care about Cory and his/her struggles through life. They're using it to make them look good and "forward thinking". Wow, he gets to stand next to Cory for 30 seconds. Whoop-di-do. There are sooooo many more kids with much worse problems in our community than someone having a gender identity crisis. This fragile of a story does not belong in a marketing campaign for a hockey team. And posting on the internet just invites the swarms of trolls that probably make the kid upset (assuming he/she reads it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I find it disheartening to see a few people in this thread being incredibly judgmental and making rude comments about a topic of which they know nothing about. Gender Dysphoria and Gender Identity Disorder are not adult-only disorders. It often begins during childhood and in the past has only been addressed once that person becomes an adult and can take matters into their own hands because it was little understood by medical professionals. But with advances in medical science, the issue can now be addressed earlier. So, calling this "child abuse" is completely absurd. It's like expecting parents to wait until their children are fully grown before letting them wear glasses to correct their eyesight. The wonderful piece Derek Jory wrote for Canucks.com was not meant to educate you on the complexities of this issue, it was to show how the Canucks organization is being inclusive and reaching out to ALL of their fans, and I vigorously applaud them for that! Unless you've experienced GID or know someone who has gone through it, you cannot possibly know what Cory and his parents went through with their doctors to determine the treatment they decided was right. I highly doubt it was a snap decision or based on the simple fact that "she liked Superman more than Barbie." Imagine that you are the parent of a child with GID, would it be easy for you to say, "sure let's turn our daughter into a boy!" I doubt it, and I'm sure it was not easy for Cory's parents. And I'm pretty certain the doctors who assisted were extremely careful to make the right decisions about something as complex as this. One of our writers on PuckBuddys was diagnosed with gender dysphoria years ago and is beginning the process of addressing that for the first time as an adult. She is also a big Canucks fan and wrote a piece published today sharing her own thoughts about Cory and Cory, and how what the Canucks did was incredibly uplifting and inspiring. I suggest you read it: Canucks Take You Can Play to a Whole New Level, and they do it Right! It's already difficult enough for transgendered people in this world, there are even lots of gay and lesbian people that don't really understand it. But, just because you don't understand something or can't imagine what it must be like doesn't mean you have to condemn it or make baseless accusations. Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I find it disheartening to see a few people in this thread being incredibly judgmental and making rude comments about a topic of which they know nothing about. Gender Dysphoria and Gender Identity Disorder are not adult-only disorders. It often begins during childhood and in the past has only been addressed once that person becomes an adult and can take matters into their own hands because it was little understood by medical professionals. But with advances in medical science, the issue can now be addressed earlier. So, calling this "child abuse" is completely absurd. It's like expecting parents to wait until their children are fully grown before letting them wear glasses to correct their eyesight. The wonderful piece Derek Jory wrote for Canucks.com was not meant to educate you on the complexities of this issue, it was to show how the Canucks organization is being inclusive and reaching out to ALL of their fans, and I vigorously applaud them for that! Unless you've experienced GID or know someone who has gone through it, you cannot possibly know what Cory and his parents went through with their doctors to determine the treatment they decided was right. I highly doubt it was a snap decision or based on the simple fact that "she liked Superman more than Barbie." Imagine that you are the parent of a child with GID, would it be easy for you to say, "sure let's turn our daughter into a boy!" I doubt it, and I'm sure it was not easy for Cory's parents. And I'm pretty certain the doctors who assisted were extremely careful to make the right decisions about something as complex as this. One of our writers on PuckBuddys was diagnosed with gender dysphoria years ago and is beginning the process of addressing that for the first time as an adult. She is also a big Canucks fan and wrote a piece published today sharing her own thoughts about Cory and Cory, and how what the Canucks did was incredibly uplifting and inspiring. I suggest you read it: Canucks Take You Can Play to a Whole New Level, and they do it Right! It's already difficult enough for transgendered people in this world, there are even lots of gay and lesbian people that don't really understand it. But, just because you don't understand something or can't imagine what it must be like doesn't mean you have to condemn it or make baseless accusations. Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Really makes me think of how a kid at 9-years of age can make their own choice to take pills that diminish the effects of puberty I guess when you know, you know.. Best of luck to her (him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I can see why some people would be concerned in the case of chemically neutering a fifth grader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Interesting... Good for him. I have no idea what she was going through growing up so I can't comment, but either way what Cory did takes a lot of guts at that age. I wish I had that kind of courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champions of Nothing Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 This is an odd story that belongs nowhere near the Canucks or the NHL. In fact, the Canucks organisation should be ashamed for using this kid's story as a fluff piece and to tout their "humanitarian" marketing agenda. What a load of crap. The Canucks don't care about Cory and his/her struggles through life. They're using it to make them look good and "forward thinking". Wow, he gets to stand next to Cory for 30 seconds. Whoop-di-do. There are sooooo many more kids with much worse problems in our community than someone having a gender identity crisis. This fragile of a story does not belong in a marketing campaign for a hockey team. And posting on the internet just invites the swarms of trolls that probably make the kid upset (assuming he/she reads it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winger Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Am i incorrect in saying that he didn't make the decision til he was 14 and a half, having lived with the blockers since age 9? Also if the criminal age of responsibility in Canada is 12, then why is 14 too young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 You should take the time to study your statement, "Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged". As with most people, you seem to be applying it entirely out of context. (For reference, it is located at Mathew 7:1 but please read the entire chapter or even the entire book to get the proper perspective) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StopesisCanucks Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I know peeps who have gone through this and had a sex change, trust me these people are no better off after having their identity changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I know peeps who have gone through this and had a sex change, trust me these people are no better off after having their identity changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StopesisCanucks Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 huh I wonder what Cory has to say on the subject? I don't know anyone who has gone through this and yet in this case it seems like Cory is way better off for having his "identity changed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Lets see where she/he is at in 10 yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguez Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoggyDepot Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Your niece sounds like a spoiled brat, probably created by parents that didn't teach patience, there by stressing the poor little deary to death....talk about parent abuse! Great decision there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemieux Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 This is a sickening story as far as I am concerned. If there had been a life threatening illness, the hormone treatment would have been justified. What has happened to "be comfortable with who you are"? If this girl/boy (sorry I don't know what to call this transexual wannabe) wants to play hockey so bad, there are stars like Wickenheiser who play as graciously as any NHLer. Nowadays kids are so spoiled. If they want to be change their sex when they are in grade three, they are allowed to do what they want. Sometimes, kids need to just s*ck it up and do their work instead of wining. The great Sir Winston Churchill once warned about perverted science. We are seeing truly perverted science in the 21st century now. IVF is now available to Octomoms and others with wicked sexual fetishes. Hormone therapy is now being abused. I would not have posted this reply had this story been not on the Canucks website. I won't reply anymore in this threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 what are you talking about? GayCanuck used that statement in perfect context befitting of his post. If the bible uses it in a different context so what? The bible is not applicable in this case as when it was written there was no such thing as hormone blockers and hormone replacement therapy. Its funny that you accuse him of taking a loose quote from the bible out of context, when you even mentioning the bible in reference to this thread is completely out of context and very irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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