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#1 TheRussianRocket96

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:33 PM

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Just finished reading the Jeremy Roenick biography, good read. Heres a few excerpts for when he talks about AV. Pretty interesting to see that he has the fun personality we see sometimes, but also a tough side we might not see.

- "Alain Vigneault, now behind the bench for the Vancouver Canucks, was my coach in Hull. I liked him because he was like Keenan- tough and direct."

- "These guys knew how to have fun, and they knew how to play practical jokes on rookies.

The team's longest bus trip was an 11-hour excursion to Chicoutimi. When we were almost there, Vigneault told the bus driver to pull over. He stood up and told all of the rookies to gather at the front of the bus, because the assistant coach had forgotten the neccessary paperwork for the rookie to travel through a park area. I can't remember exactly what their explanation was for why we needed papers to travel within Canada, but the gobbledy-gook the coach fed us seemed realistic enough to be believed. His bull**** fooled me.

"What are we going to do?" I said, concerned that I had made an 11-hour bus ride for nothing.

"We are going to sneak you guys in under the bus," Vigneault told us.

So we got out of the bus, and the three rookies climbed into the storage compartment, and then the bags were stacked around us. I don't remember what the temperature was, but it felt like arctic under there.

We then drove a couple of miles, and the the bus stopped and we could hear voices outside. Someone said they were going to search the luggage compartment. "Hide," I Whisered. "Get under the bags. Everyone get as low as you can."

The door was opened, and the three of us were holding our breath, trying to stay as still as possible. Then we peeked through the bags and saw Vigneault and all the boys laughing their asses off at the naive rookies. That was Hull's method of initiating players onto the team."

- "The season I played in Hull it was mandatory to use a facemask and a neckguard. Once Gelinas and another player forgot their neckguards for a game at Three Rivers. They weren't allowed to play, and we lost the game. We headed back home that night like we always did, but when we pulled into our parking lot at two in the morning, Vigneault ordered everyone into the dressing room. He set up a video camera and he ordered every player to put on his freezing equipment and go in front of the camera and count off. We had to put our equipment on and take it off 20 times while counting each time for the camera. Vigneault was going to make sure that no one ever forgot his equipment again."

-"Alain Vigneault also had a hard edge to his coaching style. I wouldn't say I liked being criticized or yelled at, but I got used to it."

Edited by TheRussianRocket96, 10 February 2013 - 06:35 PM.

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#2 Armada

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:38 PM

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And you guys want this guy fired?
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:45 PM

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And you guys want this guy fired?

Not us, just bandwagon fans who have no idea what it takes to actually play this game.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

Damn. I didn't think AV was Keenan tough.
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Buddy I called this EXACT situtation on here two years ago and was flamed, so I guess I have a bit of hockey knowledge, not to mention the 4 years I played in the OHL idiot.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:48 PM

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Not us, just bandwagon fans who have no idea what it takes to actually play this game.


Not everyone that wants him fired is a "bandwagon" fan.
Sometimes I wonder if people even know what a bandwagon fan means the way they are so loosely throwing that word around...

Great read. Pretty funny stuff

Edited by CanucksJay, 10 February 2013 - 06:48 PM.

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#6 Teemu Selšnne

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:57 PM

Thanks for sharing dude!
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:00 PM

The only way this coach gets fired is if he loses the room.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

AV is an honest coach. He is also very supportive of his players, he expects the best out of them
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:29 PM

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Good coach glad we have him. Lets trade emo Canuck fans instead.
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If you like looking at statistics to determine who's better, you're just a casual fan.

2.41 season GAA isn't very impressive. Let's not get into playoffs and his SV%.

Cory Schneider is the next Patrick Roy.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:30 PM

He used to sneaky stuff like get his trainers to lay thin layers of sand in and around the opposition's dressing room in his home rink.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

I always thought that if we fired AV (not because he's a bad coach, but a shake up sort of like a few cup winners have done in the past) we would need to get a tougher and meaner coach. Unless AV isn't as tough with this core as he has been in the past (a possibility considering how much some of the players seem to like him), a more player friendly coach would be required if we were to shake things up?

It's like how we put Schneider in for Luongo last playoffs. We needed to try something, and Schneider played goal a lot differently.

FYI, I want AV to stay for the time being.
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Buddy I called this EXACT situtation on here two years ago and was flamed, so I guess I have a bit of hockey knowledge, not to mention the 4 years I played in the OHL idiot.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:36 PM

He used to sneaky stuff like get his trainers to lay thin layers of sand in and around the opposition's dressing room in his home rink.


Haha, for what, mess up their skate blades I'm assuming?
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:40 PM

Haha, for what, mess up their skate blades I'm assuming?


duh... lol
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:45 PM

I remember and have took part in some God awful rookie stuff but that Luggage trick is pure genius.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:54 PM

lol at the favourable comparisons to Keenan. IIRC he wasn't exactly the best thing to happen to this franchise.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:06 PM

I'd rather him be the tough coach than the one that does crap all now
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:23 PM

Good share. Was thinking JR would be a great read.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:16 PM

The middle-of-the-night uniform antics would not wash in the pros or juniors these days. Methinks he's changed his motivational tactics over the years.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:21 AM

Cool! Has anyone else read any hockey biographies?
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:25 AM

Cool! Has anyone else read any hockey biographies?


Yup

If you haven't read Theo Fleury's "Playing With Fire" then you're missing out.

You learn how crazy his life was and what hockey was like back then behind the scenes. Pretty dark and deep read.

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Also check out Brodeur's "Beyond The Crease"

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:15 AM

Maybe Hodgson and his dad really disliked the pranks AV played on rookies :shock:
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:25 AM

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Maybe Hodgson and his dad really disliked the pranks AV played on rookies :shock:

probably scared soft little cody half to death

poor little fella
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:26 PM

And you guys want this guy fired?

he has always been tough on rookies
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:31 PM

lol the initiation part was a funny joke
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:01 PM

Good share. Was thinking JR would be a great read.


It really was good. He shared a lot about his personal life, off ice and on ice stories, and provided some good insight on other players and former players as well.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:06 PM

the luggage bag trick was hilarious
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:09 PM

Hilarious! Man it must be so cool being a part of the CHL hockey family

I really like AV for not taking everything so seriously. He's intense when he needs to be but he's not a drill sergeant either. The players seem to have a good relationship with him because of that. He treats them like men, not little kids.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:53 PM

I think AV has probably softened a bit over the years but I also think he picks his spots and doesn't take himself too seriously. I'm sure he rips players at times but he leaves that in the room and doesn't necessarily take it into media scrums. Plus the team wins a lot, if the team was terrible he would probably show a bit more frustration.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:51 PM

There's only two things that drive me nuts about AV , he doesn't use his time outs when it could really help and he has to lighten up on the throat lozenges. :lol:
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:54 PM

Cool! Has anyone else read any hockey biographies?


I read Jon Gatehouse's biography of Bettman that just came out in the fall. It should be required reading for anyone criticizing him. Honestly, in some ways I came out with newfound respect for the man, but in other ways it made me hate him ssssooooo much more than ever before. Overall there's just a ton of interesting tidbits about the inside workings of the NHL over the past 20 years in there.

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