Hendo1987 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Vancouver - NYR 1st round pick. NYR - Kole Lind Vancouver’s 2nd rnd Derrick Pouliot Vancouver’s 1st - Draft Dahlin/Boqvist NYR 1st - Draft Bouchard Flame on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp79 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I think NY says no. And I think JB also says no. Lind may end up being a top line player, Pouliot is improving daily, and our 2nd is going to be basically A high 1st. I'd rather trade tanev to get another 1st. And if it looks like baer might not be in the plans as well as Goldie. I hope we can flip them for 2nds Baer for sure should garner a 2nd. maybe goldie + might get back one. I guess that depends on if another team sees his potential. With him being waiver eligible and the fact we have so many young kids who look like they may pass him I just don't see how we keep him. Shame cuz I don't think he would report to Utica. He already mentioned the KHL as an option if he can't crack an NHL club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I'd rather take the gamble on Lind becoming a special player for us rather than draft 10th? 9th? Whatever that pick is. Not to mention I like Pouliot as a 4/5 D-man, only 23/24. That 2nd rounder could be Merkley if we are extremely, extremely lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 It's doubtful that the Rangers would consider it. There are too many players who put up a lot of points in juniors and never translate to the NHL. The best bet to find a player is really in the top-half of the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dombrova22 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 No way in hell. Kole Lind was a steal, kid has great potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sygvard Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I mean I really like Kole Lind. But from the other point of view, would we accept two 2nds and a depth D for our first this year? Cause that is what we are offering them for theirs. I don't think any team would ever accepts a couple 2nds for a high lottery 1st. Even if one of those 2nds looks like a solid pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 The Rangers sent out a letter saying that they're rebuilding and then sold off assets for picks at the deadline. Moving their 1st round pick does not fit that agenda. The value isn't there anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo1987 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Interesting Kole Lind has drawn comparisons to Cody Glass. Some people suggesting they are of equal caliber. Two excellent prospects. NYR drop 20ish spots in the draft and pick up a blue chip prospect in Lind. Plus add a potential top 4 D in Pouliot. Add on top of that possibly Merkley or Bokk...lots of intriguing picks with our 2nd. Not sure where you’re going with the whole Rangers letter comment. Rangers would be acquiring 3 young assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo1987 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 That’s potentially Lind, Merkley and Pouliot for Bouchard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 13 hours ago, Hendo1987 said: Interesting Kole Lind has drawn comparisons to Cody Glass. Some people suggesting they are of equal caliber. Two excellent prospects. NYR drop 20ish spots in the draft and pick up a blue chip prospect in Lind. Plus add a potential top 4 D in Pouliot. Add on top of that possibly Merkley or Bokk...lots of intriguing picks with our 2nd. Not sure where you’re going with the whole Rangers letter comment. Rangers would be acquiring 3 young assets. Lind is a very good prospect, but he's not 'blue chip'. The Rangers would be better served looking to move up in the draft, not move down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo1987 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Captain Azzy said: Lind is a very good prospect, but he's not 'blue chip'. The Rangers would be better served looking to move up in the draft, not move down. Do you consider Glass blue chip? As as far as I can see the only difference is draft position. Kole Lind is a heck of a player that plays with a bit of sandpaper. Started the year with mono, got a concussion and still managed to be top 10 in WHL scoring. What do you consider blue chip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Hendo1987 said: Do you consider Glass blue chip? As as far as I can see the only difference is draft position. Kole Lind is a heck of a player that plays with a bit of sandpaper. Started the year with mono, got a concussion and still managed to be top 10 in WHL scoring. What do you consider blue chip? According to Wikipedia: "Blue chip players are those who have proven themselves to be among the best at their positions in their respective sports and are more sought after and wanted than other players. They are typically perceived as "can't miss" prospects who are desired by most organizations. Blue chip athletes are likely to have an immediate impact on teams that acquire them and have proven skills rather than speculative or untapped potential." So the likes of McDavid, Eichel, Matthews, Dahlin etc. Not Glass, not Lind. Franchise-altering players, not franchise-complementing players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo1987 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Ohhh Sorry I didn’t realize blue chip and generational were the same thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo1987 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Sorry to break this to you but McDavid, Eichel, Mathews aren’t prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hendo1987 said: Ohhh Sorry I didn’t realize blue chip and generational were the same thing..... I wouldn't consider Eichel, Matthews or Dahlin generational. Matthews is barely a PPG player on a playoff team, McDavid would be shredding the league in scoring if his team had more than one other decent talent. Eichel is great, but his team isn't much more worse than McDavid's and McDavid has almost 30 more points in 13 more games. McDavid is definitely in a league of his own right now. Just now, Hendo1987 said: Sorry to break this to you but McDavid, Eichel, Mathews aren’t prospects. Also, when they were drafted they were considered blue chip. I don't think he was referring to them now as blue chip prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I would rather take a flyer on their young goaltender buried behind The King Igor Shestyorkin who just won a gold medal in the olympics. Hutton or Goldy should do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo1987 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: I wouldn't consider Eichel, Matthews or Dahlin generational. Matthews is barely a PPG player on a playoff team, McDavid would be shredding the league in scoring if his team had more than one other decent talent. Eichel is great, but his team isn't much more worse than McDavid's and McDavid has almost 30 more points in 13 more games. McDavid is definitely in a league of his own right now. Also, when they were drafted they were considered blue chip. I don't think he was referring to them now as blue chip prospects. So McDavid was the only blue chip prospect in his draft class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hendo1987 said: So McDavid was the only blue chip prospect in his draft class? No, cause like I said I don't consider blue chip to be generational. You can be blue chip and not generational. Generational should mean you are a once in generation talent, having like 6 of them kinda undermines the meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo1987 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Ok well if you think McDavid and Dahlin aren’t generational talents you’re ridiculous. Glass was rated the 4th best prospect outside of the NHL by TSN. Jordan Kyrou at 15.....apparently not blue chip. When TSN calls these players blue chip I think I’ll take their word over yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Where did the term blue chip originate from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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