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  1. 4 hours ago, hammertime said:

    I think Dvorsky will be there. And honestly I'd love to get guys like him in the system. As a raw talent I think he's got all the tools and ticks all the boxes. I find myself incredibly frustrated by the way he plays. I cringe when he carry's the puck. 

     

    Maybe he's coachable if he is.... There's huge potential. Or he's an ostrich. 

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    I'm not sure which. 

     

    Regardless I think he's going to be a very good 3C who's money on the PP.  

     

    Not convinced at all on top 6 upside though. 

     

    I'm in the same boat with Musty. I absolutely want guys like him in the system. I just don't want them at 11.

     

    16+ absolutely. In Musty's case I love playmaking from the Power fwd role. Musty can play that Bertuzzi role where Naslund/Lekkerimaki would thrive. 

     

    I can see the carrot.  

    Ya I see Dvorsky different then you do. I see a top 6 guy. Hes looked different on every team hes played on and hes done certain things better on each of those teams / roles. I think hes going to take a little longer but he could have a really big pay off. I do see a world where he does become a 3C like you are projecting but I am seeing the higher upside currently.

     

    I know Kasper isn't the same as Dvorsky at all but I feel like their upside debate is similar in their draft years. AS its just hard to project at his current age and how hes played across multiple teams.

     

    Whereas if he played in the CHL wed have a much more clear look / perspective on him as a player.

     

    I see why there are question marks and doubt and enough for you to be wary of him being our pick at 11.

     

    Agree on Musty completely 

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  2. 6 hours ago, Sp3nny said:

    Overall, as some others have suggested, I do feel this is a forward heavy draft, and it should be for probably the first 12 picks. Not saying it will go that way, but my personal rankings seem to end up that way more often than not. Here is a quick list/blurb on the guys who I am intrigued by:

     

    Fantilli - I LOVE what this guy brings. I view him like a more energetic Eichel, just a modern, powerful player. He’s locked in as my number 3 behind Michkov, but I think he will go 2. Not sure he quite has Eichel upside, but he does it all at a very high level much the same.

     

    Leonard - There is a lot to like with the top crop of USNTDP players. Leonard’s power game and shot make him very desirable, and I think his forechecking and puck pressure is a nice compliment. Very well rounded game, and an excellent finisher. Maybe a bit of James Neal in him?

     

    Musty - One if the best playmakers this draft. Guy is constantly looking to create. I wish his passing was better, but his vision and play creation is fantastic. Many times he uses his reach to poke a loose puck to a teammate as a pass. Has the frame and range to be a dominant force, but a bit of an awkward stride, and sometimes questionable decisions makes him harder to project. He will absolutely need to use his size more at the next level, but not everyone has that in them, which is where the worry comes in. Don’t see him mentioned as much in the top 15, but I could see some team loving the possibilities with him.

     

    Benson/Moore - Two skilled guys who make plays at speed. Last year, Savoie was one of, if not my favourite prospects in the draft, much the same as Johnson from the year prior. These two are probably the closest comparable in the top end of this draft, but I don’t like either as much as the former two. I have a preference for Benson, as while his skating and shot aren’t as good, I find his IQ and creativity  are better.

     

    Dvorsky - Good all around player, but nothing ever stands out to me as elite. Great shot, understands the ice well, and his defensive game seems strong, but I wonder what separates him from others at the NHL level. I find at times he is prone to not make the highest percentage play ie. dekes when he shouldn’t, dumps it in when he should have carried the puck etc. He’s not a bad prospect by any means, but I guess I question the upside. He actually reminds me of Podkolzin a bit, who I had similar questions about his draft year. I could see him in the mold of Horvat however, and nobody complains about him as a 9th overall.

    I like Musty. But I don’t like him top 11

     

    he does have redraft potential to be one of the top 15 guys though.

     

    he could be this drafts Snuggerud

  3. 2 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said:

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    What I ended up with in a mock draft. Dont think we will be this lucky on draft day though. 

    I doubt Danny Nelson is there that late, but would love that pick.

     

    and I think there is chance dvorsky is there at our pick. Although unlikely. 

  4. 19 hours ago, hammertime said:

    Absolutely. And while it is incredibly flawed. It will be interesting to see when draft day comes how much better or worse it is statistically speaking than some other lists available in the media. Especially when you do consider how incredibly flawed it is. Could other metrics be built into it to make it better in years to come? At this point it's just an incredibly raw exercise in statistics. 

     

    I do statistics in forestry metrics for a living so I kind of geeked when I saw someone made a base model for the entire draft class based on TOP Down's

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    ║ ALPSHL ║ 0.084 ║
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    ║ NMHL ║ 0.076 ║
    ║ Czech-U20 ║ 0.074 ║
    ║ AJHL ║ 0.062 ║
    ║ EJHL ║ 0.060 ║
    ║ Czech U19 ║ 0.059 ║
    ║ SwissDiv1 ║ 0.054 ║
    ║ Belarus-Vysshaya ║ 0.052 ║
    ║ SJHL ║ 0.052 ║
    ║ U20-Elit ║ 0.049 ║
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    ║ QJAAAHL ║ 0.036 ║
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    ║ HPHL-16U ║ 0.034 ║
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    ║ Russia-U18 ║ 0.032 ║
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  5. 7 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:

    Wasn't the biggest knock against Nikishin in his draft year his skating?

    I dont know he wasn't on my radar. He slipped to the 3rd round though so there must have been some question marks.

     

    It was an interview really early in the year I cant even remember who it was wish I could and give it a listen to again woulda been interesting. Maybe the comp was just because they were Russian, a little under the radar, had a blend of tools, lay big hits, but Simashev skating is a tier above so he wont fall to the third round and could the offence production come later like how it did for Nikishin.

     

    Think it was something like that.

  6. 59 minutes ago, HighOnHockey said:

    Look forward to hearing your takes.

     

    Despite pretty limited viewings on Simashev, it's getting hard to deny he's probably the number one guy. Hard not to think of Mukhamadullin at the same age. Simashev is not as polished offensively or defensively as Mukhamadullin was, but Simashev is heavier with more of a mean streak and he's an even better skater. Pretty similar draft quality this year to 2020, right down to being forward heavy in the top 15-20; I had Mukhamadullin 17th largely because I just thought he was one of he highest-floor players in the draft, despite limited offensive upside. With Simashev's tools he could have higher two-way upside, and I feel like a Nikita Zadorov could be a kind of a floor for him.

    Earlier I. The year I heard a scout comp him to 

    Alexander Nikishin

     

    what do you think of that?

  7. 3 hours ago, aGENT said:

    Something like:

     

    Hughes, Carlo

    Gavrikov, Hronek

    OEL, Lyubushkin

     

    ...would be the dream. That's three REALLY solid, 2 way pairs. And probably only fractionally more than what we're paying now.

     

    Here's hoping we can trade for/sign some Carlo/Gavrikov comparables and maybe develop our own "Lyubushkin" (Woo?).

     

     

    Would be pretty happy with that top 4!

     

    and If that was our D core I’d prefer keeping bear with OEL.

     

    i just think that pairing would be too slow and get burned on dumps/retrievals. 
     

    And if OEL is better than what we saw last year I like him and bear as a third pairing should be good.

     

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  8. 13 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:

     

    I guess the main thing is I'm not sold on Wood's playmaking ability. Disclaimer here that I said the same thing about Byfield, McTavish, Gauthier in their draft years, and every one went much earlier in the draft than I had them ranked. McTavish I hadn't watched a ton and looks like I was just plain wrong about (in my defense I did start to come around on him late in his draft year after U18s). Gauthier i'm still hesitant about. And Byfield I just found him a little sluggish in his processing and reaction time with limited time and space. I would put Wood in the Byfield category. There's definitely some higher level creativity and play creation going on, but does it happen at high enough speeds to be effective in the high-danger areas that are so important for skilled centers in the NHL? I never doubted Byfield as a center because of his skating, I just didn't think he'll be quite on the level of center many fans and pundits seemed to think he would. Wood doesn't have Byfield's skating ability, and I'm just not convinced I see an NHL center. But is a little bit better skater and I also think processes the game at a slightly higher level. I'm not all that convinced on either But or Wood as a center, but I could see But as a center more than I could see Wood there.

    In the games I’ve watched I’ve seen playmaking ability off the wall and off the rush. I like how he uses his reach and frame to give himself space to make a play and he’s doing it against more mature players in the NCAA.

     

    And then when he was playing the u18s I thought his playmaking was even better. Ofc he was playing with macklin but their chemistry was amazing and he’s also a special player.

     

    i personally like his playmaking ability and can’t wait to see what he does next season

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  9. 13 hours ago, hammertime said:

    I have But at 9 in this tier.

    6 Reinbacher

    7 Danielson

    8 Simashev 

    9 But

     

    I have Wood sorta clumped into this group. Where I am very comfortable in saying each of them would complement our core and slide right into our top 6 but doesn't have to start there. 

    10 Sale

    11 Barlow

    12 Leonard

    13 Wood I'm good with Wood here as I've seen what Miller Pete can do with Brock and I think Wood would be a clear upgrade. 

     

    My top 15 I feel safe to hit on all 15 of those picks. Sure there are always questions but I'm taking the guys with more answers. Other lists may have a greater appetite for guys like ASP, Benson, Perreault, Gulyayev, Dvorsky, Moore, Cristal. I'm not sure if their Hughes or Honka personally. Probably would have traded a small moon for Honka in 2015. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Your 6-9 all has skating / size combos 

     

    I feel similar in that I like a lot of these players top 15, confidently. 
     

    i think we all liked honka too ya holy…

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  10. 3 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:

     

    I'm with Hammer on this one. I haven't seen a ton of either but from what I've seen, discounting the Russian factor I would lean But.

    Was there something you saw or heard that pushed you to the point you  feel that way?

     

    i know you talked earlier about how potentially he could be a C with  his size and skating alone thst sounds interesting to me. I just don’t know enough 

     

     

  11. 3 hours ago, hammertime said:

    Wood is a very promising prospect as well. One thing I try to stick to as I've been burned many times before. Is I try to avoid ranking guys on potential. "Oh he will become a better skater, he will learn defense, he just needs coaching and his IQ will improve, he will fill out and become stronger on pucks" etc. I try to rank more on certainty "what is this player showing me right now". 

     

    Yes that absolutely means that I'll miss on some gems. But I've just personally found more often than not when I've made these excuses about a player they have disappointed.

     

    The fewer excuses I make for a prospect the higher they are on my board these days.  

    Where roughly do you have wood ranked right now?

     

    Def a fair way of evaluation 

     

    but every player comes with a degree of projection and question marks at this age even bedard, Fantilli , Carlsson, smith , Michkov the top of the draft 

     

    The crown jewel bedard has his own - he is small, and he isn’t a skater like point or Hughes so will he be an nhl C as he is undersized? 
     

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  12. 13 minutes ago, hammertime said:

    Apples to apples Daniil But. He's got the size and the shot but he can also fly if he gets a lil runway infront of him. 

    I haven’t seen enough to have a true opinion on him. But he looks very interesting 

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  13. 35 minutes ago, spook007 said:

    I'm not sure, who would be available at 11 with higher ceiling, but I said higher floor in my post. 
     

     I don't really think there is anyone with higher ceiling than Wood. Maybe Benson, as he has huge potential. but I feel if it doesn't go entirely to plan, he may struggle with his size. players like Dvorsky, Leonard, Barlow would have a higher floor....

     

    Regardless, if he is as close as it gets to become a 6'4+ power forward with silky mitts, and is expected not to have skating issues, I fail to see, why he would be there at 11. 
     

    Sorry haha I really misread your post Awkward Season 4 GIF by The Office

     

     

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  14. 14 hours ago, spook007 said:

    He would be worth the gamble. The things I mentioned came from scouting reports, 

    They seem to think they are question marks as well. 
    If he was a sure thing with his size, he'd be top 5-6 even in this draft. 6'4+ big power forward with best goal scoring record in the NCAA as a 17 year old since Toews...

     

    I'm on the Wood train as well. There are likely players with higher floors than Wood at 11, but the potential to be playing at 6'4-6'5 well over 200lbs they don't have...


    To be honest, I find it very hard to decide, who to go for this year. 
     

    Do we go for skill?

    speed?

    Dman or Forward?

    Center? RHD?

    Size?

    highest floor or biggest potential?

    Are they prepared to wait, or do they need someone to join the team soonest (cap). 
    Boom/Bust?


    Normally a few stands out, but there are so many this year, and they all look like can't miss... 

    History tells us differently though...

    I read scouting reports with a grain of salt and look at the date they were written and who wrote it. 
     

    Out of curiosity who do you have with higher ceilings at 11 than wood? 
     

    not just ranked ahead in your mind but with higher ceiling / top end potential 

  15. 10 hours ago, spook007 said:

    Well you may be right, but not too sure...

    He doesn't engage enough physically to score greasy goals, as per scouting reports, if his skating doesn't improve, and he wants to be efficient bottom 6 player, he needs to get more physical... ? 

    The scouting reports do agree though, that he tends to make something out of nothing. 

    As the youngest kid in the ncaa he’s also learning a power game in. Harder environment.

     

    he may not be like Ryan Leonard in how he uses his size or plays with an edge like that.

     

    but he does use his size to overpower players, he does win puck battles and he’s super strong as a net front presence.

     

    I see a kid that will continue to learn to use his size effectively and also get a lot stronger on the gym. Even though he’s big he’s still not that strong. He’s just learning in the gym right now too and the next couple years he’s gonna get a lot stronger.

     

    i love the potential of this kid.

     

    he’s also a fierce competitor and wants to be the guy. 
     

    i like his skating too in the way I think it did improve this year and I think as his legs get stronger and if he does skating summers he’s going to really move well. 
     

    if woods On the Board when we go up I want to select him. 

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  16. 56 minutes ago, Pure961089 said:

    Who else sees a little of Rasmus Dahlin?

    I don’t see that at all. But he’s a great skater for his height.

     

    Be interesting if he’s on say Stevie Ys number 1 d spot and the BPA at 9 for them. Or to the NYI pick if he ma available ther

     

    Simashev-Seider

    Edvinsson-

     

    could be a very large, young, mobile and impressive d core to build around 

     

    *I’ve also only watched highlights and heard / read scouting reports

     

    so my opinion on the Russians aren’t very strong 

  17. 1 hour ago, hammertime said:

    I mean I'm talking bout a depth fwd here. I'm not billing him as a top 9 guy. I'm just saying that this is the type of depth I want to add fast tough high compete guys who can pk and grind but aren't completely inept offensively and can capitalize on some of the opportunities they create. 

     

    I don't want a slow face puncher that can't pk or defend the rush. 

    Me neither if we signed lucid I’d be so choked 

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  18. 11 hours ago, Smashian Kassian said:

    Article in the province today (Kuzma) that mentioned the Canucks really like ASP.

     

    My thought is ASP looks like a legit Top 4 D you could bank on, but fairly unspectacular. We've been down this road before with Juolevi - granted knee injuries really did him in, he showed the puck skills & IQ to be a player otherwise - so I'm a little weary, but at the same time if we were picking 19th I'd be over the moon with him, so he's a good player. For those that follow a little closer @HighOnHockey @R3aL (?) I wonder how he compares to Victor Soderstrom who profiled similarly.

     

    The question boils down too how much room is there to grow b/c he's certainly a good player, but is he going to be a McDonagh-type 'smooth & unspectacular but highly effective' top pair guy, or a really good 3/4 second pair guy 

     

     

    I like ASP a lot. 
     

    He might not even be there when we pick. And the problem is we are committing to Hughes and Hronek most likely long term. So there won’t even be a path to get the best version of ASP with PP time not being there unless there are injuries.

     

    BUT, could he be the most valuable trade asset if available at our time of selecting? He could very well be. 
     

    HoH isn’t as high on ASP as I was most of the year. 
     

    I’ve even come around to liking Willander slightly more than ASP. In that he has the skating, the better size, skill set that fits our team build better and has a better development path in front of him and could Project into a winning NHL style better than ASP on our team. While still having that RHD asset premium attached to him. 
     

    i think both will be NHL players and if they both have similar ceilings of second pairing guys I’d rather the one that fits our team build better and doesn’t sacrifice the premium position. 
     

    if we draft ASP I won’t be upset at all though. He’s just tough to project. And if he continues to improve and becomes an exceptional

    sub 6ft nhl defender that transitions the puck fast and our goals for us always positive with him out there.. perhaps we build a winning back end different then any other team. But teams have been winning in the playoffs with big, mobile backends.

     

     

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  19. 2 hours ago, HighOnHockey said:

    Seems almost fated if you ask me. Washington probably takes Michkov, and if Philly is still trying to build a "John Torterella team" that would mean Barlow or Leonard for them, so Reinbacher should be there. I said in my mock draft a couple years ago that I was convinced Lucas Raymond was a stud and Hakan Andersson would see that, so Detroit would pick him at 4. This year I'm saying Sandin-Pellikka is not all that, and I think Hakan Andersson will see that and they go Reinbacher at 9.

     

    1. Chicago - Connor Bedard - Obviously

    2. Anaheim - Adam Fantilli - Bruce Franklin has a long history drafting out of USHL and NTDP. Will Smith could make sense here, but Fantilli seems consensus BPA.

    3. Columbus - Leo Carlsson - If there is one GM who does not have a rich and storied history drafting NTDP, it is Kekkalainen. Michkov is a strong possibility here, but Carlsson seems the most logical choice.

    4. San Jose - Dalibor Dvorsky - Mike Grier is a rookie GM, but head scouting director Chris Morehouse has some history to go off. Morehouse was Kekalainen's head scout when they picked Tarasov, Marchenko, Chinakhov so Michkov could be possible here too, but given the difficulties Grier has already had signing Chmelevski, I'm betting he steers clear of the Russian here. Not much history for Morehouse out of the NTDP either.

    5. Montreal - Will Smith

    6. Arizona - Nate Danielson - Tampa picked out of CHL with almost every single first round pick of Plandowski's tenure there. I was thinking Barlow initially, but Danielson seems like the guy here.

    7. Philadelphia - Ryan Leonard - Brent Flahr played a role in building the heavy Minnesota Wild we see today. He also has a long and successful history with the NTDP.

    8. Washington - Matvei Michkov

    9. Detroit - David Reinbacher

    10. St Louis - Matthew Wood - Head scout Tony Feltrin is a Vancouver Island native, so I'd be surprised if Wood falls any further than this.

    11. Vancouver - Samuel Honzek - Todd Harvey is the head scout, but when the GM has a background in amateur scouting, they'll tend to have a major say in early draft picks. Allvin never had a lot of early picks in Pittsburgh, and didn't have great success with the picks he had. Europeans via the CHL seems to be his specialty.

     

    If he doesn’t go to San Jose I just can’t see Montreal taking him. And I would agree he could be dated to have a baton hand off from Ovie in Washington. It would be a cool story line. 
     

    ans that would be one where those extra few wins and demko starts could burn a little.

     

    I’ve fully accepted honzek could go high. From 9-11 would be the absolute highest I think he could go. 
     

    i wouldn’t be ecstatic just because when I watch him sometimes I think a lot of his success is just due to his size and strength but I also maybe over watched him ripped him a part more than others now to this point. And I would support the pick with everything I have if we took him. 
     

    I’ve also heard some insiders say STL could be high on Barlow and ASP. So we will see. Wood there would make sense though and look like a STL guy. 

  20. 1 hour ago, Gawdzukes said:

    With the way we're seemingly looking at an all in approach I wonder if we target a player that could be ready sooner than say a Wood, or ASP. 

     

    I think our management will pick the best asset on their list and they will give them the patience required. That’s what they’ve done, and said in regards to drafting and developing 

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  21. 21 minutes ago, hammertime said:

    Re Garland Benson comparison. Mostly in the sense that they are both high motor hard on pucks players who compete in every area. However struggle in tight checking contests and thrive in scrambles. 

    Ya I was saying I think that’s a better comparison by you than that of benson to point 

     

    i do think a more physically developed benson could thrive in tight checking games though 

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  22. 29 minutes ago, eeeeergh said:

    If we have a shot at Benson, there is no world in which we should trade pick #11

     

    We can trade literally any other years pick, but Benson is a top-3 calibre prospect in an average draft. I dont know how many more shots we're going to get to surround Petey with young top-line calibre talent. This is probably the last one for a while I think - with Demko healthy we are not going to be picking high the next few years.

     

    If he hits his ceiling, imagine putting him on Miller's wing with a speedster/forechecker like mikheyev on the other. That line would be insane. 

    I do think Benson-Miller-Mikehyev as a line combo would work very well in 2 years or whenever he was ready 

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  23. 40 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

    I hope by the end of Draft Day 1, I'll be going "Wow, I can't believe he fell to the Canucks!"

     

    Some teams picking ahead will go off the board, ARI and DET possibly. Maybe even CBJ. 

     

    Wood had a really strong U18 tournament, and he might go high. Possible that Barlow, Perreault, Ritchie, Stenberg and Lindstein go earlier as well.  All had a good tournament.   

     

    I think Benson is there at #11.

    I really want Wood so he will be gone by our pick.

     

    lol

     

    i want to feel the same way though.

     

    and it’s really important to me that our player turns out better than detroits pick just before us at 9 that would be great 

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